Post by: Buck Rub Jr on December 09, 2019, 12:49:39 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 09, 2019, 01:04:02 PM
Post by: kselkhunter on December 09, 2019, 01:04:36 PM
For my setup I opted for the 7mmRM in a stainless (Browning Xbolt long range). And topped with Swarovski Z5 with custom elevation turret. Mainly as I found the rifle on a good sale (was the prior year's model). I had gone to the store intending to buy a 300WM Sako 85 but walked out with the Browning 7mmRM because of the value difference and it gave me more money to spend on the scope.
Post by: syoungs on December 09, 2019, 01:18:34 PM
I had the same decisions to make and ended up going with the 30, so I can shoot 215 berger's. Lots of info out there on killing elk with this combo.
I didn't want to leave out owning a 7mm of some sort though, so I'm picking up a lightweight 7mm-08 too :tup:
Post by: buckfvr on December 09, 2019, 01:22:51 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 09, 2019, 01:53:48 PM
I own a 7mm rem mag and have enough experience with 300 & 338 to say although I wont likely change any time soon, if it were me just getting started, Id go 300wsm and not look back......ditch the belt. case head separation on belted cases seems to be the cause of short brass life for us. And no, not amped up loads by any means.
Fake news!
Your case head separation wasn’t caused by the belt. The belt makes exactly zero difference if you size your brass to fit your chamber.
OP, both the 7 rm and the 300 win would make great all around hunting cartridges for you.
Post by: Houndhunter on December 09, 2019, 02:11:18 PM
Post by: buckfvr on December 09, 2019, 02:17:25 PM
I own a 7mm rem mag and have enough experience with 300 & 338 to say although I wont likely change any time soon, if it were me just getting started, Id go 300wsm and not look back......ditch the belt. case head separation on belted cases seems to be the cause of short brass life for us. And no, not amped up loads by any means.
Fake news!
Your case head separation wasn’t caused by the belt. The belt makes exactly zero difference if you size your brass to fit your chamber
I reload correctly I assure you......its not fake news its common. Your opinion for you, mine for me.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 09, 2019, 02:27:26 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 09, 2019, 02:31:46 PM
My current batch of win mag brass has 7-9 loads on it and I haven’t ever even had to trim it. I’ve also had batches of 7 RM brass with 15+ firings and lost it to split necks and not head separation.I own a 7mm rem mag and have enough experience with 300 & 338 to say although I wont likely change any time soon, if it were me just getting started, Id go 300wsm and not look back......ditch the belt. case head separation on belted cases seems to be the cause of short brass life for us. And no, not amped up loads by any means.
Fake news!
Your case head separation wasn’t caused by the belt. The belt makes exactly zero difference if you size your brass to fit your chamber
I reload correctly I assure you......its not fake news its common. Your opinion for you, mine for me.
And Buckfvr I wasn’t intentionally over aggressive or trying to be mean with my post. I just got a bit excited. :chuckle: :hello:
Post by: Eric M on December 09, 2019, 02:57:24 PM
Post by: HillHound on December 09, 2019, 03:58:15 PM
Post by: jrebel on December 09, 2019, 04:00:54 PM
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on December 09, 2019, 04:15:39 PM
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on December 09, 2019, 04:17:52 PM
I shoot a 300wsm and it works great for everything however I just purchased the 6.5-300wby. Was ready for something new and wanted to get one of the flattest shooting calibers out there. Waiting on the scope still but I plan to use this build for deer/elk/bear.
I read a couple places that the 6.5x300 can be tricky to hand load for, that’s the only thing that has worried me about that cartridge.
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on December 09, 2019, 04:19:11 PM
I picked the 7mm. My son got a 300 win mag. Both have good BCs. A little less recoil in the 7mm. Both have killed animals at greater than 300 yards. Maybe you should just save and buy them both.
That would be nice :chuckle: but I think I’ll go one rifle and one trailer so I can start adventuring out of state more. That’ll be a whole new deal for me too, that will be fun to figure out lol
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 09, 2019, 04:25:10 PM
Post by: Stein on December 09, 2019, 04:28:38 PM
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Post by: Buck Rub Jr on December 09, 2019, 04:50:57 PM
Getting a rifle threaded for a brake is pretty cheap. I wouldnt let a lack of a brake deter you from a rifle. Not to mention most brakes on factory rifles are some cheap thing that does little for recoil but makes lots of noise :chuckle:
Being loud and looking cool is the goal though right? Lol
I think I remember seeing a thread not too long ago that it was about $150 or so on average? I’ll have to look into what people say about those weatherby Accubrakes.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 09, 2019, 05:00:58 PM
I'm a radial brake hater so it'd be a hard pass for me on the weatherby accubrake . For what they upcharge for a brake and FL camo, you could get a standard stainless one, thread it, add a beast 4 port and have money leftover :twocents:Getting a rifle threaded for a brake is pretty cheap. I wouldnt let a lack of a brake deter you from a rifle. Not to mention most brakes on factory rifles are some cheap thing that does little for recoil but makes lots of noise :chuckle:
Being loud and looking cool is the goal though right? Lol
I think I remember seeing a thread not too long ago that it was about $150 or so on average? I’ll have to look into what people say about those weatherby Accubrakes.
Post by: Bango skank on December 09, 2019, 05:04:38 PM
I'm a radical brake hater so it'd be a hard pass for me on the weatherby accubrake . For what they upcharge for a brake and FL camo, you could get a standard stainless one, thread it, add a beast 4 port and have money leftover :twocents:Getting a rifle threaded for a brake is pretty cheap. I wouldnt let a lack of a brake deter you from a rifle. Not to mention most brakes on factory rifles are some cheap thing that does little for recoil but makes lots of noise :chuckle:
Being loud and looking cool is the goal though right? Lol
I think I remember seeing a thread not too long ago that it was about $150 or so on average? I’ll have to look into what people say about those weatherby Accubrakes.
But all the cool kids will laugh at you if your rifle doesnt have a matching camo pattern with your "clothing system."
Post by: kselkhunter on December 09, 2019, 05:09:05 PM
Post by: greenhead_killer on December 09, 2019, 05:17:18 PM
Post by: Eric M on December 09, 2019, 05:27:21 PM
You mentioned doing more deer than other stuff. I think you would get plenty of use out of the 7mm for deer and antelope. Its also plenty deadly on bear and elk. Its also a lot easier to shoot groups at the range.I picked the 7mm. My son got a 300 win mag. Both have good BCs. A little less recoil in the 7mm. Both have killed animals at greater than 300 yards. Maybe you should just save and buy them both.
That would be nice :chuckle: but I think I’ll go one rifle and one trailer so I can start adventuring out of state more. That’ll be a whole new deal for me too, that will be fun to figure out lol
Post by: Bofire on December 09, 2019, 05:40:38 PM
Carl
Post by: b23 on December 09, 2019, 06:05:59 PM
I own a 7mm rem mag and have enough experience with 300 & 338 to say although I wont likely change any time soon, if it were me just getting started, Id go 300wsm and not look back......ditch the belt. case head separation on belted cases seems to be the cause of short brass life for us. And no, not amped up loads by any means.
Fake news!
Your case head separation wasn’t caused by the belt. The belt makes exactly zero difference if you size your brass to fit your chamber.
OP, both the 7 rm and the 300 win would make great all around hunting cartridges for you.
Not trying to pick sides here but it's true, case head separation has nothing to do with the case being belted or not, and is nearly always the result of improper over sizing and repeatedly pushing the shoulder back to far.
As for a one gun do all, I've always been a big fan of 30 Cals so that's the direction I'd lean. The new 300 PRC would be a good choice for a one gun do all cartridge.
Post by: Mulie87 on December 09, 2019, 06:17:00 PM
Post by: walter351 on December 09, 2019, 06:24:51 PM
Post by: MADMAX on December 09, 2019, 06:29:35 PM
And hard to beat a .257 Weatherby mag for deer but for elk I think too light
Post by: The Big Game Hunter on December 09, 2019, 06:41:53 PM
You can read more in depth about each cartridge below if you so choose.
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/7mm-rem-mag-vs-300-win-mag/
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/300-win-mag-vs-338-lapua-vs-338-win-mag/
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/winchester-short-magnum-270-wsm-7mm-wsm-300-wsm-325-wsm/
Post by: huntnphool on December 09, 2019, 06:49:01 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 09, 2019, 06:56:21 PM
I re barreled a 300 win to 375 ruger and didn’t have one for awhile and the safes felt empty lol. So picked up a christen elr to play with in 300 win.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 09, 2019, 07:40:29 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 09, 2019, 07:54:55 PM
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on December 10, 2019, 07:04:31 AM
I'm a radical brake hater so it'd be a hard pass for me on the weatherby accubrake . For what they upcharge for a brake and FL camo, you could get a standard stainless one, thread it, add a beast 4 port and have money leftover :twocents:Getting a rifle threaded for a brake is pretty cheap. I wouldnt let a lack of a brake deter you from a rifle. Not to mention most brakes on factory rifles are some cheap thing that does little for recoil but makes lots of noise :chuckle:
Being loud and looking cool is the goal though right? Lol
I think I remember seeing a thread not too long ago that it was about $150 or so on average? I’ll have to look into what people say about those weatherby Accubrakes.
But all the cool kids will laugh at you if your rifle doesnt have a matching camo pattern with your "clothing system."
I wear danner pronghorns, the cool kids will laugh at me anyways.. :tung:
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on December 10, 2019, 07:06:38 AM
Post by: Jimmy33 on December 15, 2019, 09:26:58 PM
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Post by: GoPlayOutside on December 15, 2019, 09:35:39 PM
Post by: jeffro on December 15, 2019, 11:43:12 PM
Works on anything, easy to find ammo, easy to reload for.
Time tested and proven
Plus....It comes in semiautomatic
Love my Browning Safari
And I’m saving up for an Omen
Post by: opdinkslayer on December 16, 2019, 06:27:11 AM
Seriously if your looking for a do all cartridge, I agree with the 30 crowd. If it were me I’d look for something with a twist rate & magazine right to shoot heavier bullets. The Browning xbolt HC or Max LR come to mind. If your willing to spend more money, get a tikka action & send it over to Mike @ HCA for a carbon killer build in 300 wsm throated for heavies.😍 That’s where my donor Tikka is headed in a few weeks. Good luck with what ever you decide. :tup:
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on December 16, 2019, 11:42:45 AM
Better just get a Tikka 7 mag like BDeck’s so you can keep up with the quality trail of destruction he’s had the last couple seasons! :chuckle:I think the 7 mag might be the way I’ll go but in a weatherby. Deck said if I come with a box of Berger’s and some H1000 you’ll mount my scope for me :chuckle:
Seriously if your looking for a do all cartridge, I agree with the 30 crowd. If it were me I’d look for something with a twist rate & magazine right to shoot heavier bullets. The Browning xbolt HC or Max LR come to mind. If your willing to spend more money, get a tikka action & send it over to Mike @ HCA for a carbon killer build in 300 wsm throated for heavies.😍 That’s where my donor Tikka is headed in a few weeks. Good luck with what ever you decide. :tup:
Post by: birddogdad on December 16, 2019, 12:40:44 PM
maybe you would be better off to build a very accurate mid caliber rifle for "lighter game" and a big bore for larger north America game?
for example, i run 45/70 for deer in wet brushy applications (rainy thick stuff)
7 mag for stretching out over 700yds for deer (never needed to stretch this far but am comfy to 1K)
375 h&h for elk comfy out to around 500yds and i have a true long range big bore if i ever draw something special to reach out well past that.
your options are endless frankly. Yes, one gun can cover but where is the fun in that!!!
Post by: opdinkslayer on December 16, 2019, 01:12:14 PM
Better just get a Tikka 7 mag like BDeck’s so you can keep up with the quality trail of destruction he’s had the last couple seasons! :chuckle:I think the 7 mag might be the way I’ll go but in a weatherby. Deck said if I come with a box of Berger’s and some H1000 you’ll mount my scope for me :chuckle:
Seriously if your looking for a do all cartridge, I agree with the 30 crowd. If it were me I’d look for something with a twist rate & magazine right to shoot heavier bullets. The Browning xbolt HC or Max LR come to mind. If your willing to spend more money, get a tikka action & send it over to Mike @ HCA for a carbon killer build in 300 wsm throated for heavies.😍 That’s where my donor Tikka is headed in a few weeks. Good luck with what ever you decide. :tup:
:chuckle: well that was might generous of him to offer my services! Ya we could definitely do that. :tup:😎
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 16, 2019, 01:22:42 PM
Post by: 7mm Bob on December 23, 2019, 09:10:42 PM
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on December 27, 2019, 05:53:05 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 27, 2019, 07:57:18 PM
Post by: Utah on December 27, 2019, 10:27:26 PM
Kimber Montana 300wsm has been great for me for last 10 +/- years. Elk, deer, bear, etc from WA, ID, MT,
Bingo!
Post by: Wsucoug on December 28, 2019, 12:03:54 AM
Got my scope earlier than I thought. Came in the 23rd, now just need to pick up a rifle to put it on 8)
Do you have a budget for the rifle?
Post by: Wsucoug on December 28, 2019, 12:11:11 AM
It seems that all of the new high BC bullets are coming in 7mm. If you use these new bullets, ballistically you catch the 300 win mag somewhere around 650 yards with a 7 mag. Under 650 they are both gonna hit hard. Over 650 the new 7mm bullets start to shine.
Sometimes when shopping for a new rifle you have to be a little flexible with your caliber as its not always easy to find the rifle you want, in the caliber you want, when you want it.
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on December 28, 2019, 07:27:17 AM
I can pick up a brand new wby vanguard synthetic stainless for just over 500 so I’d like to stick around that price.Got my scope earlier than I thought. Came in the 23rd, now just need to pick up a rifle to put it on 8)
Do you have a budget for the rifle?
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