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Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: LDennis24 on December 28, 2019, 09:13:43 PM

Title: What kind of sheep is this?
Post by: LDennis24 on December 28, 2019, 09:13:43 PM: Hey guys, just curious what species of sheep you think this is? Craigslist find for CHEAP!
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 28, 2019, 09:18:29 PM: looks like a dahl sheep. the ones with darker color they call fannin or something like that.
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Post by: KFhunter on December 28, 2019, 09:19:44 PM: looks like a stone sheep to me
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Post by: jackelope on December 28, 2019, 09:20:20 PM: Stone sheep.
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Post by: huntnfmly on December 28, 2019, 09:21:46 PM: Fannin
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Post by: LDennis24 on December 28, 2019, 09:38:20 PM: What's a reasonable price for a mount like this? Just bought it cuz it came up and looked good. The guy said it was a bighorn and he shot it in North Idaho! Lol... It has a pin that say's BC and a four digit number to follow on its horn in the back. I was pretty sure it was a Fannin or Stone sheep. Never seen a bighorn with a white head!
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Post by: KFhunter on December 28, 2019, 09:53:53 PM: He's a liar, but at least its pinned.

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Post by: mountainman on December 28, 2019, 10:01:33 PM: Stone👍
Title: What kind of sheep is this?
Post by: jackelope on December 29, 2019, 01:48:47 PM: BC is British Columbia and it’s the same concept as our bighorns getting plugged by our biologists. It’s absolutely not a bighorn and it definitely wasn’t killed anywhere in Idaho. You might even be able to trace those 4 digits back to the details of when/where it was killed.
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Post by: boneaddict on December 29, 2019, 01:51:37 PM: I'd have guessed stone but :dunno: pretty sure he lied to you. LOL
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Post by: boneaddict on December 29, 2019, 01:52:15 PM: Might watch for threads on here in the future...."Someone stole my sheep"
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Post by: LDennis24 on December 29, 2019, 02:02:12 PM: I was just explaining what the guy told me. I knew it was not a Bighorn after seeing it in person and I know it wasn't from North Idaho. He ran a car repair shop and from what I gathered he probably collected all his stuff from repair deals that couldn't be paid for so he took taxidermy in trade and was unfortunately lying about shooting them himself. Look up University Place taxidermy on Craigslist... He's selling tons of stuff. Some cool mounts if you want something to hang in a shop or stairwell. Lots of ducks for $50. Full Buffalo head mount for $800. Looks really good in person.
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Post by: Buckjunkie on December 29, 2019, 02:47:37 PM: Quote from: huntnfmly on December 28, 2019, 09:21:46 PM
Fannin
:yeah:
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Post by: Axle on December 29, 2019, 02:59:07 PM: I'm going with 'dead sheep'. Might be a rare breed..... :chuckle:
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Post by: Whitpirate on December 29, 2019, 03:00:36 PM: What did you pay?
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Post by: blacktailer on December 29, 2019, 03:29:35 PM: I called him and warned him about all of the waterfowl he is selling. They were not pen raised birds with paperwork and, if he's not careful, he's going to get jammed up. It is 100% a stone sheep. If it was a bighorn, selling it in Wa. State would be illegal as well unless he were to get a letter from the director himself which is highly unlikely. His Mt. Goat falls into the same category. I hate to see anyone get jammed up for not knowing the laws regarding the sale of wildlife and waterfowl. That Stone was a nice find. Nice job
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Post by: meatwhack on December 29, 2019, 09:07:45 PM: Stone.
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Post by: LDennis24 on December 29, 2019, 11:05:55 PM: $550
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Post by: starbailey on December 30, 2019, 06:30:25 AM: Stone ram.
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Post by: Okanagan on December 30, 2019, 08:07:25 AM: Stone.

Fannin is merely a color variation of Stone sheep. Thin horn sheep come in varieties from all white Dall to darker Stones with about every possible blend and hide pattern and shade of color between. I watched a group of 14 Stone rams once time where one was mostly white with an all white head and neck, one was unusually dark and the others were various shades and patterns of grey.

In the 40's and 50's Fannin were considered a different species but labeling them so is about like inventing a new species of black bear out of cinnamon colored ones.
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Post by: LDennis24 on December 30, 2019, 08:35:53 AM: From what I've read a Fannin is just a cross between a Dall Sheep and a Stone. Anywhere the two species intermingle, that's where you get the odd color varieties known as Fannin. Supposed to have slightly different horns too.
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Post by: boneaddict on December 30, 2019, 08:41:19 AM: I’ve never heard of it. Not sure it’s officially recognized even. As I said, my guess was Stone. I feel a lot more,confident in that now that Starbailey thinks so. In my world, I basically consider him the authority on sheep. Don’t get yourself in trouble. I don’t know the rules about buying and selling and possessing them.....
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Post by: starbailey on December 30, 2019, 09:58:54 AM: Stone sheep come in a huge color variation from almost totally black on late season capes to a white faced grey/black/brown cape. (see profile pic) Fannin usually have very little color on their shoulders where this ram has lots. Most fannin have a light grey saddle and black tail. Again there are lots of different color variations. Fannins are mostly found in the Yukon and NWT with a very small population in Alaska. The pin in this ram has BC on it so it would also make sense its a stone ram.
WSF and GSC/O will let hunters classify a fannin ram as a stone for their FNAWS/Grand Slam. People call them the "poor mans stone" as they usually cost 15-25k less than a true stone.
Here's a pic of my fannin I killed in 2003 in the Yukon. At the time it was one of the darkest fannins from this area. I went back 2 years later and killed a ram that had some black hairs on his tail about 30 miles from this ram. To me he had to be called a dall.
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Post by: starbailey on December 30, 2019, 10:41:51 AM: Here is a better pic of my stone ram from BC and a pic of some live sheep from BC. My ram wouldn't be considered a "typical" colored stone as I'd say the 3 live sheep are more typical. IMO. The front one even has some brown on his shoulders just not as much as the mounted ram.
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Post by: blacktailer on December 30, 2019, 11:29:14 AM: Beautiful ram with a great argali-like flare. looks like a 7 year old ram?
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Post by: LDennis24 on December 30, 2019, 12:51:34 PM: What a beautiful animal! If I could afford to hunt anywhere in the world I would have to spend some money on a Stone sheep hunt, a musk ox, and a trip to Asia for Mahrkor and Argali/Marco Polo or Ibex. I'm not very fond of the meat though unfortunately. Is wild sheep meat much different than domestic? I raise Icelandic sheep and they can be very odorous during the rut! Lol
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Post by: starbailey on December 31, 2019, 11:43:52 AM: I feel a backpack stone sheep hunt is the greatest North American adventure!
Wild sheep meat is some of the best eating to be had. Especially dall sheep.
Goats in general, ibex, tur, tahr are barely fit to eat. I've had locals literally fighting over a portion of ibex meat before though. I've never tried a markhor but its a goat species. I'd think the argali (ovis species) would be ok to eat.
Some of the international hunts are very affordable and can be an amazing adventure.