Post by: grundy53 on January 10, 2020, 03:19:56 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 10, 2020, 03:23:05 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on January 10, 2020, 03:24:08 PM
Post by: grundy53 on January 10, 2020, 03:32:06 PM
So I have the silencerco harvester... I've used it on two kimbers....a 6.5 creed and a 25 06. Both light guns, thin pipes. Ive not found the balance off when shooting. I'd say dont change anything and if interested, and i hsve the same thread adapter, you can shoot mine and see how it feels.Perfect. Thanks. I've just been reading how some guy's cut theirs down to 16-18". I didn't know if it was a big deal or what.
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 10, 2020, 03:57:15 PM
Post by: b23 on January 10, 2020, 04:16:03 PM
I run most everything suppressed from rimfires on up . Like most things, there is no "one" right answer and I've had some of my rifles, threaded only, and I've had some chopped back from a little to as much as all the way down to my 22-250 which is now only 18 inches. I will say, I've yet to have any rifle shortened that I wished I'd have left it longer. Depending on which one, my rifle suppressors add anywhere from 4 - 10.5 inches, and for me, the convenience of the shorter overall length outweighs any velocity loss. I will add, be aware, when you go shorter barrel length, they get a little louder, even suppressed.
Post by: grundy53 on January 10, 2020, 04:26:28 PM
I'd say largely dependent on the gun. Caliber, current barrel length, weight etc. Any smithing or modifications should have a purpose. Decide what the overall goal/purpose of the weapon is and then go from there :twocents:The 2 rifles I'm going to get threaded both have 24 inch barrels. One is a Remington 700 in 25-06 and the other is a Howa 1500 in .300 win mag. I'm not worried about weight, I use a Remington 700 senduro in
.300 win mag for my elk brush gun so I'm not smart enough to worry about weight. Lol. I just don't know if it's better to cut them down or not. I just figured if I was going to get them cut I should do it while I'm getting them threaded. But it doesn't sound like it improves performance so I don't think I'll get them cut.
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Post by: grundy53 on January 10, 2020, 04:28:26 PM
You can probably ask ten different people and you'll get nearly that many different answers.Good point. Everyone has an opinion that works for them.
I run most everything suppressed from rimfires on up . Like most things, there is no "one" right answer and I've had some of my rifles, threaded only, and I've had some chopped back from a little to as much as all the way down to my 22-250 which is now only 18 inches. I will say, I've yet to have any rifle shortened that I wished I'd have left it longer. Depending on which one, my rifle suppressors add anywhere from 4 - 10.5 inches, and for me, the convenience of the shorter overall length outweighs any velocity loss. I will add, be aware, when you go shorter barrel length, they get a little louder, even suppressed.
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Post by: TooTallMike on January 10, 2020, 04:51:40 PM
Post by: Remnar on January 10, 2020, 05:19:33 PM
I'd say largely dependent on the gun. Caliber, current barrel length, weight etc. Any smithing or modifications should have a purpose. Decide what the overall goal/purpose of the weapon is and then go from there :twocents::yeah:
To add. I personally wouldn't cut down the calibers OP mentioned, because of preformance loss . If I wanted a shorty id go .308 "family" or some of the short mags . :twocents:
Post by: 762Armo on January 10, 2020, 05:23:30 PM
I'd say largely dependent on the gun. Caliber, current barrel length, weight etc. Any smithing or modifications should have a purpose. Decide what the overall goal/purpose of the weapon is and then go from there :twocents:The 2 rifles I'm going to get threaded both have 24 inch barrels. One is a Remington 700 in 25-06 and the other is a Howa 1500 in .300 win mag. I'm not worried about weight, I use a Remington 700 senduro in
.300 win mag for my elk brush gun so I'm not smart enough to worry about weight. Lol. I just don't know if it's better to cut them down or not. I just figured if I was going to get them cut I should do it while I'm getting them threaded. But it doesn't sound like it improves performance so I don't think I'll get them cut.
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Cutting the barrel wouldn't improve performance, it would actually take away speed from the bullet. It would make it more maneuverable, and easier to carry.
It all comes down to personal preference in my opinion and how you think each set up (cut or not) will affect your style of hunting/shooting.
Post by: Bango skank on January 10, 2020, 05:38:05 PM
Post by: fly-by on January 10, 2020, 08:52:20 PM
Post by: Remnar on January 10, 2020, 09:15:04 PM
Hence what Karl Blanchard said .
Far from a guru just my :twocents:
Post by: fly-by on January 10, 2020, 09:20:28 PM
One thing I think about also is if I will ever have an occasion to use same rifle unsuppressed . A 20" 300 win mag unsuppressed would be tits on a boar ..IMHOP. Agree. It would have to be a dedicated suppressor host. Sounds like the OP has a few rifles, including another 300 WM.
Post by: Pnwrider on January 10, 2020, 09:41:47 PM
Post by: supagoose on January 10, 2020, 09:44:26 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 11, 2020, 05:00:13 PM
One thing I think about also is if I will ever have an occasion to use same rifle unsuppressed . A 20" 300 win mag unsuppressed would be " tits on a boar" ..IMHOP...flame thrower maybe :chuckle:
Hence what Karl Blanchard said .
Far from a guru just my :twocents:
You might be surprised. The muzzle flash is more a function of powder choice than barrel length. Some powders are just better than others in that regard. Here are a few examples that are a bit on the extreme end of the spectrum, but will give a pretty good representation.
20" VS 30" barrels on a 338 SnipeTac (150gr H50bmg powder). The shooting starts at 2:00.
338/375 Ruger in an 18" barrel (76.5gr H4350)
18" 300 RUM in an 18" barrel (101.2gr Retumbo)
I have more videos but they're all either shot in bright sunlight or in smaller chamberings (6mm BR, 260, 284)
I'll gladly take a shorter barrel over a little velocity. The extra length is the number one reason I don't mess around with suppressors.
Post by: Yondering on January 13, 2020, 11:54:08 AM
Perfect. Thanks. I've just been reading how some guy's cut theirs down to 16-18". I didn't know if it was a big deal or what.
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There is no right or wrong answer here. In rifles threaded for suppressor use, I've got some as short as 9", and some as long as 24". All have their place, it just depends what you want to do with it.
Obviously a shorter barrel makes the gun more handy and maneuverable, but it gives up velocity. What you may not know is that shorter barrels are louder with the suppressor attached as well. A suppressed 24" barrel is significantly quieter than the same barrel cut to 16" and suppressed (assuming same cartridge/load shooting full power rifle ammo). The noise difference is a separate consideration from the flash discussed above.