Post by: Buckhunter24 on January 25, 2020, 08:24:48 PM
Post by: fowl smacker on January 25, 2020, 08:40:55 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 25, 2020, 08:44:41 PM
My grandpa always said "better to have something and not need it rather than need something and not have it".
:yeah:
Post by: huntnfmly on January 25, 2020, 08:48:50 PM
My grandpa always said "better to have something and not need it rather than need something and not have it".This is always solid advice
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on January 25, 2020, 09:05:50 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on January 25, 2020, 09:22:02 PM
My grandpa always said "better to have something and not need it rather than need something and not have it".
Doesn't always apply, especially to back country hunting. Are lots of things I'd take if I drive to my camping spot. Packing it in, not so much.
Personally have never used one. Not in Washington, Idaho or Colorado.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on January 25, 2020, 09:29:02 PM
My grandpa always said "better to have something and not need it rather than need something and not have it".
Doesn't always apply, especially to back country hunting. Are lots of things I'd take if I drive to my camping spot. Packing it in, not so much.
Personally have never used one. Not in Washington, Idaho or Colorado.
Frozen Frijoles Taco :chuckle:
Post by: Crunchy on January 25, 2020, 09:31:13 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on January 25, 2020, 09:34:01 PM
Base camp for sure. At minimum to dry out clothes, but we burn pretty much all night anyways. This year we had a ton or rain during our elk hunt in September. Being able to dry out boots and gear was a must.
:tup: Huge pert.
Post by: Taco280AI on January 25, 2020, 09:40:09 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on January 25, 2020, 09:43:24 PM
One game changer for sleeping, wear a beanie! One time in Colorado was in the teens at night. Slept okay the first night. But the second night wore my beanie, made all the difference and slept well. No stove... though it would have been nice :chuckle:
Beenie is huge. Always have one in my BC gear.
Post by: gee_unit360 on January 26, 2020, 12:12:28 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on January 26, 2020, 06:10:38 AM
Wet / snowy pack the stove.
Post by: mburrows on January 26, 2020, 06:20:55 AM
Post by: Tim in Wa. on January 26, 2020, 06:40:22 AM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on January 26, 2020, 01:24:03 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on January 26, 2020, 01:33:09 PM
https://luxe-hiking-gear.com/
Post by: huntnnw on January 26, 2020, 02:35:22 PM
Post by: Jingles on January 26, 2020, 07:37:46 PM
As said above Better to have and not need than to need and not have.
OBTW was the absolute last time I went anywhere without my slicker and extra coat
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 27, 2020, 09:47:18 AM
Did not vote . . .
As said above Better to have and not need than to need and not have.
:yeah:
Post by: CoryTDF on January 27, 2020, 10:57:15 AM
Thanks for the votes. Looks like I will end up going with one of the luxe hot tents, I was leaning this direction but pack weight and cost was telling me to tough it out
Think I would look at LiteOutdoor's before I went with LUXE. I would expand on that but I was told I must pay a sponsorship fee to do so. Just go look at the weights of the setups. I think you will see what i'm talking about. LiteOutdoors's is quality gear and they have amazing customer service. :twocents:
Post by: Buckhunter24 on January 27, 2020, 03:11:19 PM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on January 28, 2020, 09:57:26 AM
Post by: CoryTDF on January 28, 2020, 10:17:10 AM
I watched a video on the Lite Outdoor Stove, it looks like the metal is super flimsy. Almost like tinfoil. Do you use their stove in their tent or anyone have a recommendation on different stove? I would almost certainly ruin this thing in no time.
This is the nature of titanium stoves. I have tested nearly all of them. You would be surprised how well they work for as flimsy as they look. If you are thinking about packing in a stove you are going to want titanium and that is the trade off. Sure, you could go with a stainless stove like those from Winnerwell but they are heavy. Winnerwell also has a titanium stove called the FastFold that is pretty nice. It is not without it's faults though and in my testing I found that i prefer the LiteOutdoor's stove for trips in which I plan to bring camp in on my back. Just and FYI I do product testing and reviews as a side gig so I have spent a good amount of time with all the products you have been looking at and those I have suggested.
Also, yes I do use the LiteOutdoors Plateau 5 Man with the 18'' Stove W Baffle. I have also used that stove in my SEEK 6 man tipi. I have used the Ti-Goat, WinnerWell, Seek, Liteoutdoor's stoves in several different combinations as they are pretty interchangeable. Personally, I like to be able to control the air intake and the damper so I sold the Ti-Goat stove. They all do the job though and they will keep you toasty warm! Might have another stove for sale soon.
Post by: OltHunter on January 28, 2020, 11:03:04 AM
But, they are a pain to keep going, it can be especially challenging finding wood, and burn times are hard to keep going past 90 minutes to 2 hours.
So you are going to sleep sweating and waking up ice cold generally in a few hours.
In months where there is lot of light, you could be up till midnight and beyond drying anything out since you are getting back later in the day and getting up earlier, you will not be getting much sleep.
So just something to think about and another stress/energy expenditure.
With all that said, I still voted for take it with me and need it. I have the seek outside XL.
I'm debating cutting up a North Idaho Fuel Log and splitting it up in my group on the pack in. I'm thinking a few rounds might last quite a bit longer than a bunch of sticks and found laying around I can find. See if it's worth the extra weight. I'm going to experiment this spring and summer with them.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on January 28, 2020, 11:40:12 AM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on January 28, 2020, 11:48:26 AM
Our primary concern is to dry clothes, I have no doubt we can sleep warm enough without a stove.
I believe I will pull the trigger on a tent equipped with stove jack and hold off on stove for now. I plan on doing a couple short cold trips this spring then will decide on stove.
I suspect we will have a steep learning curve if it decides to snow in sept. Up high :chuckle:
Post by: CoryTDF on January 28, 2020, 12:07:35 PM
I appreciate the detailed advice in this thread, as it helping spend my money right.
Our primary concern is to dry clothes, I have no doubt we can sleep warm enough without a stove.
I believe I will pull the trigger on a tent equipped with stove jack and hold off on stove for now. I plan on doing a couple short cold trips this spring then will decide on stove.
I suspect we will have a steep learning curve if it decides to snow in sept. Up high :chuckle:
Something else you are going to want to consider is condensation. You are going to get a lot of condensation in a floor-less tent with warm bodies and breath. It can get bad enough to have a rainstorm inside your tent. The stoves do a good job drying that up. No matter the stove or the tent combo you will still get condensation about 18'' up the sides that will likely never fully dry unless you have really nice weather. I am guessing you will wish you bought the stove after your first trip.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 28, 2020, 12:13:57 PM
I have the seek outside XL.
I'm debating cutting up a North Idaho Fuel Log and splitting it up in my group on the pack in.
Remove the spark arrestor screen. I burned some duraflame in my SXL stove, and it clogged up pretty quick. Perhaps NIFL burns cleaner.
Post by: OltHunter on January 29, 2020, 07:25:59 AM
I have the seek outside XL.
I'm debating cutting up a North Idaho Fuel Log and splitting it up in my group on the pack in.
Remove the spark arrestor screen. I burned some duraflame in my SXL stove, and it clogged up pretty quick. Perhaps NIFL burns cleaner.
They do, that's one of their selling points. I ran them in our wood stove in our wall tent last fall and they worked really well, didn't soot anything up.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 29, 2020, 07:53:44 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on April 04, 2020, 08:47:57 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on April 04, 2020, 10:44:29 PM
Ummm nice.
Post by: slim9300 on June 08, 2020, 02:36:07 PM
I have many setups and years of experience with both.
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Post by: Colville on June 17, 2020, 09:43:38 PM
If your bag and sleep gear wont keep you warm neither will a stove, it cant last more than an hour in a pack stove. So if your sleep system isn't warm a stove is no solution.
Youd be amazed how much drying your body heat will do for clothes too. I both hunt with and without stoves. Except for socks, i dont need a stove for drying unless i fall in a creek!
Post by: Buckhunter24 on June 17, 2020, 09:51:03 PM
Post by: Stein on June 17, 2020, 09:55:51 PM
Serious question. Outside of your socks.... Why the hell are your clothes wet?
If your bag and sleep gear wont keep you warm neither will a stove, it cant last more than an hour in a pack stove. So if your sleep system isn't warm a stove is no solution.
Youd be amazed how much drying your body heat will do for clothes too. I both hunt with and without stoves. Except for socks, i dont need a stove for drying unless i fall in a creek!
I've been on more than one hunt where I came back to camp and the money in my wallet was soaking wet. When it's 38 degrees and raining or worse snowing and you are hunting all day up and down the hills through the brush, there isn't a fabric known to man or a technique that I know of that will keep me dry. I assume I'm coming back to camp soaked and will be drying clothes and have a few spares where possible.
Post by: huntnnw on June 17, 2020, 11:51:17 PM
Serious question. Outside of your socks.... Why the hell are your clothes wet?
If your bag and sleep gear wont keep you warm neither will a stove, it cant last more than an hour in a pack stove. So if your sleep system isn't warm a stove is no solution.
Youd be amazed how much drying your body heat will do for clothes too. I both hunt with and without stoves. Except for socks, i dont need a stove for drying unless i fall in a creek!
I've been on more than one hunt where I came back to camp and the money in my wallet was soaking wet. When it's 38 degrees and raining or worse snowing and you are hunting all day up and down the hills through the brush, there isn't a fabric known to man or a technique that I know of that will keep me dry. I assume I'm coming back to camp soaked and will be drying clothes and have a few spares where possible.
:yeah:
Post by: Colville on June 18, 2020, 11:22:37 AM
I high hunt most years and get rained on mercilessly most every time. Fire's real benefit for me is the emotional and comfort lift, but I won't become hypothermic or stay wet without one.
Post by: Buckhunter24 on June 18, 2020, 11:33:16 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 18, 2020, 12:06:18 PM
Post by: jstone on July 22, 2020, 07:49:56 PM
Need one by the first of September
Post by: 444Marlin on July 22, 2020, 09:16:41 PM
If September 1st is the deadline, you might be able to afford to be picky about make and model.
Post by: Rob on July 22, 2020, 09:34:22 PM
I have the seek outside XL.
I'm debating cutting up a North Idaho Fuel Log and splitting it up in my group on the pack in.
Remove the spark arrestor screen. I burned some duraflame in my SXL stove, and it clogged up pretty quick. Perhaps NIFL burns cleaner.
Question. What is an NIFL pellet?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 23, 2020, 04:33:52 AM
I just got an email from SeekOutside that they are several weeks out on some items due to demand and the pandemic - supply line issues, if you want one of their stoves, I would order it now. I'd also check with Luxe.
If September 1st is the deadline, you might be able to afford to be picky about make and model.
:yeah:
Got same email.
Any HWer in NE WA needing one is welcome to borrow a Seek SXL, if I am not using it or planning to.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 23, 2020, 04:35:32 AM
I just got an email from SeekOutside that they are several weeks out on some items due to demand and the pandemic - supply line issues, if you want one of their stoves, I would order it now. I'd also check with Luxe.
If September 1st is the deadline, you might be able to afford to be picky about make and model.
:yeah:
Got same email.
Any HWer in
NE WA needing one is welcome to borrow a Seek SXL, if I am not using it or planning to.I have the seek outside XL.
I'm debating cutting up a North Idaho Fuel Log and splitting it up in my group on the pack in.
Remove the spark arrestor screen. I burned some duraflame in my SXL stove, and it clogged up pretty quick. Perhaps NIFL burns cleaner.
Question. What is an NIFL pellet?
I have the seek outside XL.
I'm debating cutting up a North Idaho Fuel Log and splitting it up in my group on the pack in.
Remove the spark arrestor screen. I burned some duraflame in my SXL stove, and it clogged up pretty quick. Perhaps NIFL burns cleaner.
Question. What is an NIFL pellet?
Pellet constructed of the same material as North Idaho Fuel Log?