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Big Game Hunting => Backcountry Hunting => Topic started by: Buckhunter24 on February 03, 2020, 09:23:20 PM
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Curious to see what the results are on this. Just picked up a new bag, little heavier than I would prefer but it was a good deal. Klymat 0 synthetic for 98 bucks if anyone is in the market..
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27 ounces Feathered Friends sleeping bag.
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the weights are relative to cold rating. A summer bag is going to be far lighter than a winter bag.
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Yeah thats a good point
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I have a Klymit KSB 0deg down bag that is 3.9lbs. I also have a summer bag that is 2lbs
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I have an older Marmot Down 30 degree bag. Weighs 1# 11oz. I use this bag for everything from 60's into single digits. Different layers on depending on temp drop
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I HAVE 2 Feathered Friends bags. One 20 degree bag (2-3 lbs) for most of my backpacking/hunting and one -20 bag (4-5 lbs) for when things are expected to be VERY cold.
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I run a 26oz 20degree quilt
For cold or wet weather, I run a 7oz custom bivy.
Pad is 16oz r4.2
For cold/wet I run that combo and stay very comfortable with a merino base layer bottom and shirt at 15 degrees. Total setup is 3lbs 5 oz with the sacks included.
Summer camping, I ditch the bivy and run a cuben ground sheet at 3 oz. Though I always keep the bivy in my pack just incase weather rolls in or it gets colder than expected. At only 7 oz its worth carrying it for me.
I went through a few different setups before landing on this and it works perfect for me and all my hunting situations.
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I use a Enlightened Equipment Convert 10 degree 850 fill and it weighs 30oz
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I have two, a light quilt and a heavy winter GoreTex down bag. I haven't weighted either, the former weighs next to nothing and the latter I would carry even if it weighed 20 pounds.
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I use a 15* Marmot Helium that weighs about 2lbs for pretty much everything. When it gets cold I use a liner and wear my long underwear and a beanie. I love that sleeping bag.
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I use an EE quilt, supposed to be 0 degree but I get cold, so i just wear my under clothes to bed and stay warm. Hate sleeping in clothes and socks but it works.
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Light in the pack, freeze all night long, but it is worth it...
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Sleeping bag is one of those areas that I will gladly carry an extra pound of weight or so to stay warm. Im personally not a fan of down for sleeping bags.
Love my kifaru slick bag but it does weigh almost 3 pounds
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Yeah I seem to have a bit of an allergy to down and checked it off the list from the get go. Sounds like it works well for most people unless it gets wet
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I use a Mt Hardware treated down bag. It’s a 15 degrees bag, packs up pretty dang small and it’s under 3lbs. Use it all year long. If it’s hot, I just leave it zipped open
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Sleeping bag is one of those areas that I will gladly carry an extra pound of weight or so to stay warm. Im personally not a fan of down for sleeping bags.
Love my kifaru slick bag but it does weigh almost 3 pounds
I'm thinking about getting one for myself.
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Sub 2 lbs. Until October, and then sub 3 lbs. I sleep warm, so I use a 30 and 15 bag. Ounces=pounds=pain. I usually hunt with camp on my back all the time. Wouldn't be that big of a deal to have a 3+ lbs bag for those that set up a camp to hunt out of, and return at night. IMO, it's a huge waste of time and energy to return to a camp every night. For an extra 5 lbs. (Add about 2 lbs. of food per additional day). You can spend way more time actually where you need to be. This is especially effective when Elk Hunting.
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Interesting thread as I am in the market for a new bag. I have my truck camping sleeping bag that works fine but looking for one for the backpack. I am a cold sleeper so the warmer the better for me :chuckle:
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Western mountaineering, and feathered friends seem to be the gold standard. I have zero complaints about the ultralight at 26 ounces for a 20 degree bag I feel it was worth every penny.
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I have a Mountain Hardwear 20° down bag, 650-fill, that weighs something like 3.3-3.5lbs. I've had it for about a decade now and it's been amazing. There are lighter ones on the market for sure, and if this one ever gives up the ghost I'll probably go for a 15° Marmot Helium. I have a Sea-2-Summit liner as well for when it gets really cold.
I also have a 35° Sierra Designs bag/quilt hybrid for summer trips that weighs in a 14oz and packs down to the size of a grapefruit. It's more than warm enough for most of the hunting I do.
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I recently bought a REI Magma 15 degree treated down bag. Came in at like 24 or 25 oz. It's incredibly light compared to my old North Face bag that was 3.5 for a 20 degree synthetic bag. Looking forward to giving it a go this year.
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What do these different bags run?
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What do these different bags run?
I caught it onsale, paid $280 I think. Normal is around $379.
https://www.rei.com/product/148248/rei-co-op-magma-15-sleeping-bag-mens?CAWELAID=120217890006169234&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=30320809120&CATCI=pla-750172171415&cm_mmc=PLA_Google&product_id=1482480001&ad_type=pla&channel=online&partition_id=750172171415&target_id=pla-750172171415&brand_flag=&adgroup_id=30320809120&campaign_id=371830840&location_physical=9033389&cid=105507178240&network=g&network_type=search&device_type=c&merchant_id=1209243&gclid=CjwKCAjw4871BRAjEiwAbxXi2_gTlEetj1YvjDbw4PKc1gF5DptMlijgI3nGyz71g0uuY6Yy2ryY0xoCZvkQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Interesting thread as I am in the market for a new bag. I have my truck camping sleeping bag that works fine but looking for one for the backpack. I am a cold sleeper so the warmer the better for me :chuckle:
Try this one. Perfect for a cold sleeper. Great bag. Grab it today before it's gone. :twocents:
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I have both Western Mountaineering and Feathered Friends. WM is the best as far as I'm concerned. The draft tube and baffles are the best. The Feathered Friends is nice but a bit more drafty. I have a 30, 15 and a -10 for different conditions.
And yes a few ounces more of feathers goes a long way towards a nice warm night.
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I have a KUIU bag that no longer keeps me warm. What’s the best way to refresh the loft in it....
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I’m really happy with my Nemo Sonic 0* bag. Right at 3.0lbs. I tried the quilt and didn’t enjoy it.
As far as loft I’ve heard putting the bag in the dryer with low heat and a tennis ball or two will help it regain loft. Also storing your bag loose and not packed into a stuff sack helps extend the life. There’s some articles I’ve seen online about how to bring back the loft.
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I have a KUIU bag that no longer keeps me warm. What’s the best way to refresh the loft in it....
If it's a down bag then a proper wash and dry. If it's synthetic you're out of luck. Thats one of the reasons that down trumps synthetic.
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I have a KUIU bag that no longer keeps me warm. What’s the best way to refresh the loft in it....
If it's a down bag then a proper wash and dry. If it's synthetic you're out of luck. Thats one of the reasons that down trumps synthetic.
"trumps" may be a strong word. They both have their places and uses. Anyone who has ever had a down bag go flat may argue that synthetic "trumps" down :chuckle:
I'm a firm believer that there is no one size fits all when it comes to sleeping bags. Most of my trips I use a down quilt but if moisture is gonna be a concern I'm taking synthetic.
My brother and I both took kifaru slick bags to kodiak last February for our winter mountain goat hunt. Not only did we stay warm but we were able to dry all our clothes using body heat inside our bags. If we had had down bags we probably would have died. Literally :chuckle:
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A couple of summers ago, my girl and I did a backpacking trip together (her first, my first after several decades). I used my old Sierra Designs down bag that I’d used for everything from summer to winter ski trips on Rainier. It’s right around 2# and good to zero when coupled with bivy sack.
Above snowline, I stayed plenty warm those first nights back in a little shelter, but tying to sleep in a standard design mummy gave me fits! I thought I’d have to bite the bullet and just deal with a heavier bag if I wanted more leg room.
During my research for a roomier bag, I tried out the Nemo Disco 15. 2#11oz of warm, comfortable sleeping bag. It’s been comfortable down into the upper teens. When warmer, the bag can be vented as well.
My older mummy style is lighter and more compact, but I’ll never go back to that style.
Saved 25% by waiting for it to be offered on sale
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I have bags good from 30 degrees to -20.
I have gone down due to space and weight. Not without risks if they get wet, but I use a waterproof stuff sack to mitigate the risk. Some have the waterproof down but I am not sure I believe it really works!
here are my weights. I love my 18 ounce 30 degree bag! I carry it on day climbs as emergency gear. smaller than a water bottle stuffed.
My go-to bag for most trips is my 19 degree Igneo. at two and a quarter pounds it is pretty light and works for most of the situations I end up in. if it looks to be really cold I will go with the 3 degree bag. Downside is that it is pretty bulky.
I have yet to use the -20 bag, but the thing is huge!
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I just washed and dried 2 of my bags, my 30 degree WM and my 10 degree FF. They both look like new and have their old loft back. I used the sport wash and a couple of those silicone dryer balls to help them loft and break up the clumps of feathers. There are some specific "Down" detergents, and I think they would be ideal but I wanted to use what I had.
I always use waterproof stuff sacks and even a size larger than what they come with so I don't have to wrestle with the bag every time I break camp. If it's over-sized, then I can usually toss in a small inflatable pillow or some extra clothes that I won't need during the day.
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I picked up a lightweight quilt last year, surprisingly warm, especially for how light it is
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The quilts intrigue me. if I did not already have 4 bags I would look hard at them!
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I have two Sierra Design quilts for different temperature ranges and I'll never go back to regular bags. My worst memories are trying to get comfortable in a mummy bag if I rolled over or tried to sleep on my side. Nice weight and bulk savings. The bottom of a regular bag gets compressed and doesn't afford any real insulation. ( My 32 degree quilt weighs 20 ounces) :twocents:
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I have a really hard time finding a bag that fits at 6'05 and 280# so this is what I am using now..
For my winter bad I use a Nemo Sonic -20 Down bag at 3# even.... just got it last year and its working well so far.
For the summer a Montbell Down Hugger 20* right at 2#
For the car camping bag, I use one of the Brown cotton canvas ones with the little elk on the inside :chuckle:
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I have a really hard time finding a bag that fits at 6'05 and 280# so this is what I am using now..
For my winter bad I use a Nemo Sonic -20 Down bag at 3# even.... just got it last year and its working well so far.
For the summer a Montbell Down Hugger 20* right at 2#
For the car camping bag, I use one of the Brown cotton canvas ones with the little elk on the inside :chuckle:
Thats ironic. I run both the same bags minus the car bag. Only beef I have, is that after a week in the tent with the Nemo, it looks like I violently strangled a goose. However, it was less than half the price of the 900 Spiral Downhugger #2.
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I have a really hard time finding a bag that fits at 6'05 and 280# so this is what I am using now..
For my winter bad I use a Nemo Sonic -20 Down bag at 3# even.... just got it last year and its working well so far.
For the summer a Montbell Down Hugger 20* right at 2#
For the car camping bag, I use one of the Brown cotton canvas ones with the little elk on the inside :chuckle:
Thats ironic. I run both the same bags minus the car bag. Only beef I have, is that after a week in the tent with the Nemo, it looks like I violently strangled a goose. However, it was less than half the price of the 900 Spiral Downhugger #2.
Glad to see my Nemo isn't the only one that has a slow leak... :)
I think the Montbell bags are one of the best on the market, but ya I don't have the -20 because of the price tag... ouch
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I have a KUIU bag that no longer keeps me warm. What’s the best way to refresh the loft in it....
If it's a down bag then a proper wash and dry. If it's synthetic you're out of luck. Thats one of the reasons that down trumps synthetic.
And to top it off, what kind of sleeping mat are you on? Does it have proper insulation (r-value) for the conditions you are sleeping in?
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For those looking at getting a new bag Rob Denning over on rokslide has been doing a side by side of the kuiu and WM bags 1 video he leaves them both out in the rain with the foot box resting in water for several hours checking for leaks they both passed with flying colors it's a good video to watch it's on you tube
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Help me choose!!
Nemo sonic 0°
Big Agnes Blackburn 0°
Mountain hardware phantom 15°
For backpacking and I'm a cold sleeper. Running an xtherm
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I have a 0* kuiu on the way 2lbs 10.5oz.
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Help me choose!!
Nemo sonic 0°
Big Agnes Blackburn 0°
Mountain hardware phantom 15°
For backpacking and I'm a cold sleeper. Running an xtherm
You selected a great pad. Either the Nemo or BA you mentioned should be fine running that pad in colder weather in the back country. A merino top and bottom layer will be your best friend in those conditions to get either bag down closer to their listed ratings.
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Help me choose!!
Nemo sonic 0°
Big Agnes Blackburn 0°
Mountain hardware phantom 15°
For backpacking and I'm a cold sleeper. Running an xtherm
What time of year? My wife is a cold sleeper, and my 15 is plenty for her until October. I don't switch from my 30 to my 15 until october. Wouldn't ever want a 0 in summer and september.