Post by: RustyNail on March 09, 2020, 11:28:54 AM
Post by: Stein on March 09, 2020, 11:31:44 AM
Post by: jrebel on March 09, 2020, 11:42:26 AM
My next gun will likely be the 28 nosler for similar shooting / hunting distances.
Good luck on your decision and happy shooting. :tup:
Post by: h20hunter on March 09, 2020, 11:44:49 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 09, 2020, 11:52:34 AM
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on March 09, 2020, 12:11:32 PM
Post by: birddogdad on March 09, 2020, 12:39:43 PM
again the answer for me is "yes" to the list, what ever suits you best
Post by: starbailey on March 09, 2020, 01:37:38 PM
I wanted gun/caliber combination that could kill game(up to elk size) confidently up to 600 yards and hope a heavy 7mm Berger will be just the ticket.
Post by: kselkhunter on March 09, 2020, 02:24:39 PM
Your poll mentions elk. If we're talking 600+ yards at an elk, I'd suggest a 300mag/338mag class of cartridges. If you think you'll be shooting at game <500 yards 99% of the time then one of the 7mm magnum cartridge options is sufficient. But that's my personal preference based on how much energy and bullet weight I like to have on impact with an elk. Not saying I'm right, just personal preference.
Post by: Alchase on March 09, 2020, 02:47:27 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on March 09, 2020, 04:08:57 PM
Long range elk I would drop the 30-06 and .300 Weatherby ( capable but freebore / bottleneck cases why bother ). If going 7mm may as well go 28 Nosler. If going .300 win why not 300 wsm ? 338 wm is capable and my short range gun of choice (400 and under)
Post by: ghosthunter on March 09, 2020, 05:36:50 PM
Lots of 300 wins for sale. Lots of guys buy them but can’t tolerate the punishment at the range for long.
Get the gun you can shoot into your 80s.
Post by: jasnt on March 09, 2020, 06:02:04 PM
Post by: walleye1 on March 09, 2020, 06:05:57 PM
Post by: buckfvr on March 09, 2020, 06:06:40 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 09, 2020, 06:23:01 PM
Post by: jeffitz on March 09, 2020, 06:51:49 PM
Post by: jakeweb on March 09, 2020, 07:43:56 PM
Post by: hogslayer on March 09, 2020, 08:17:50 PM
Post by: Sutherland on March 09, 2020, 08:30:51 PM
Post by: yorketransport on March 09, 2020, 08:58:05 PM
All of the comparable rounds (PRC, Nosler, WSM, Dakota etc.) would do just as well. Nothing against the 300 Weatherby, the Win Mag just gives you more options for guns, brass, load data and factory ammo.
Post by: RustyNail on March 10, 2020, 11:10:52 AM
Post by: jrebel on March 10, 2020, 11:30:17 AM
will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?
With the right bullet, rifle and shooter....yes.
Post by: tonymiller7 on March 10, 2020, 12:09:20 PM
Post by: Jason on March 10, 2020, 01:53:43 PM
will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on March 10, 2020, 02:24:55 PM
will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?Buddies at 635 Yds with 300 WSM. One shot into shoulder.
Post by: Taco280AI on March 10, 2020, 04:36:18 PM
Post by: jdb on March 10, 2020, 05:11:11 PM
can I ask why you quit the noslers?will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
Post by: Alchase on March 10, 2020, 05:30:53 PM
Here we go again. Expect answers anywhere from no less than 50 BMG to a 22LR with iron sights. :dunno: :chuckle:
Running while quartering away even........ :hello:
Post by: Magnum_Willys on March 10, 2020, 05:31:36 PM
Post by: jasnt on March 10, 2020, 07:12:26 PM
That’s impressive at 856 that 300 wm 180’s could perform that well. Energy must of been around 1200 ft lbs?i believe it. My 243 with 115’s has 1000 ft/lbs at 700
Post by: Jason on March 10, 2020, 07:47:51 PM
They didn’t expand worth a damn. I shot a deer a couple of weekends before that and it was like a pin hole in and out. I switched to Accubonds after Elk. It hindsight it worked out great on the Elk, He tipped over in five yards. But I’ve been happy with Accubonds.can I ask why you quit the noslers?will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
Post by: Jason on March 10, 2020, 07:51:38 PM
My hunting buddy didn’t believe me either. Then the next morning we hiked up to my Elk where I left him. It’s the only animal I’ve shot past 650yds. It worked out but I shouldn’t have taken the shot.That’s impressive at 856 that 300 wm 180’s could perform that well. Energy must of been around 1200 ft lbs?i believe it. My 243 with 115’s has 1000 ft/lbs at 700
Post by: jdb on March 12, 2020, 07:02:04 PM
i shoot accubonds as wellThey didn’t expand worth a damn. I shot a deer a couple of weekends before that and it was like a pin hole in and out. I switched to Accubonds after Elk. It hindsight it worked out great on the Elk, He tipped over in five yards. But I’ve been happy with Accubonds.can I ask why you quit the noslers?will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
Post by: mountainman on March 12, 2020, 10:00:54 PM
Interesting as the ballistic Silvertip is more frangible than the accubond. Penetration and stopping just under tbe hide, and only going 5 yards sounds like pretty good bullet performance👍They didn’t expand worth a damn. I shot a deer a couple of weekends before that and it was like a pin hole in and out. I switched to Accubonds after Elk. It hindsight it worked out great on the Elk, He tipped over in five yards. But I’ve been happy with Accubonds.can I ask why you quit the noslers?will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
Post by: Limhangerslayer on March 12, 2020, 10:22:21 PM
When it comes to long range it's all about the wind. Nothing on that list will out windage the 28 Nosler. The heavy .284 bullets like the 195gr berger are unmatched.:yeah: and they aren't the barrel burners people claim unless you are screaming lighter bullets are higher speeds, which is pointless
Post by: huntnphool on March 12, 2020, 10:23:00 PM
Another vote for the 7mm here.
+1
Post by: hunter399 on March 13, 2020, 06:56:37 AM
+1 againAnother vote for the 7mm here.
+1
Post by: birddogdad on March 13, 2020, 08:43:16 AM
No offense to the OP, but this thread reminds me of some of the people I've seen while out hunting who shoot at game way beyond their abilities. And keep shooting, again, and again, and again, and again...:yeah:
when they use "long range" and 300yds in one sentence.. i too question in general ....answers are all good to the thread and appear to come from some "long range" experiences....
Post by: Cougartail on March 13, 2020, 10:04:59 AM
My next will be 7mm 08.
Lots of 300 wins for sale. Lots of guys buy them but can’t tolerate the punishment at the range for long.
Get the gun you can shoot into your 80s.
I bought one for deer hunting but wouldn't think twice about shooting an elk at 300 yards with it.
Post by: Mtnwalker on March 13, 2020, 10:21:29 AM
They didn’t expand worth a damn. I shot a deer a couple of weekends before that and it was like a pin hole in and out. I switched to Accubonds after Elk. It hindsight it worked out great on the Elk, He tipped over in five yards. But I’ve been happy with Accubonds.can I ask why you quit the noslers?will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
Well a quick run through the Berger ballistic calc has you about 200 FPS below Nosler’s minimum recommend velocity (which are usually a little on the high side anyways) for that bullet at that range so not sure how much expansion you were expecting..
Post by: birddogdad on March 13, 2020, 01:26:23 PM
They didn’t expand worth a damn. I shot a deer a couple of weekends before that and it was like a pin hole in and out. I switched to Accubonds after Elk. It hindsight it worked out great on the Elk, He tipped over in five yards. But I’ve been happy with Accubonds.can I ask why you quit the noslers?will a 300 win mag kill an elk at 600 yds?Killed my 06 Bull at 856yds with my 300wm using 180gr Ballistic silver tips.. Shot through both shoulders and found bullet in opposite shoulder right up against the hide, almost a pass through. That’s was the last time I shot Nosler Ballistic Silver Tips.
Well a quick run through the Berger calc has you about 200 FPS under Nosler’s minimum recommend velocity (which are usually a little on the high side anyways) for that bullet at that range so not sure how much expansion you were expecting..
i went to accubonds in my 375h&h for distance but love my berger vld hunters in my 7mag
Post by: The Big Game Hunter on March 21, 2020, 03:08:36 PM
I felt a little nauseous as I voted for it, but I'd go 300 Win Mag out of those options. :chuckle:I'd go with the .300 Win Mag as well. The 300 PRC has a bit of a leg up on the 300 Win Mag in that it's better suited for really long, high BC bullets. However, the .300 Win Mag is perfect for the vast majority of hunters and you can't beat it as far as ammo and rifle availability go.
All of the comparable rounds (PRC, Nosler, WSM, Dakota etc.) would do just as well. Nothing against the 300 Weatherby, the Win Mag just gives you more options for guns, brass, load data and factory ammo.
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/300-prc/
Post by: konradcountry on March 22, 2020, 03:00:56 PM
My next will be 7mm 08.
Lots of 300 wins for sale. Lots of guys buy them but can’t tolerate the punishment at the range for long.
Get the gun you can shoot into your 80s.
Seems like every range has some guy with a braked 300 and barely holding on. I also never see those guys shoot from a standing position.
There has definitely been a trend towards mid size calibers and I think ammo improvements have a lot to do with it. They are also just a lot more fun to shoot. I can crack off repeated rounds standing with my 7-08 while the 300 win mag guy is mentally preparing for the next shot.
Post by: savagehunter on March 22, 2020, 10:36:48 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 23, 2020, 06:03:56 AM
+1 againAnother vote for the 7mm here.
+1
+1 (again x2)
The best long range rifle is the one you shoot all the time and are comfortable with. 7mag has just the right amount of energy vs. recoil (for me) that I can get performance but shoot it a lot. :twocents:
Post by: str8meat on March 23, 2020, 05:29:54 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on March 23, 2020, 07:49:59 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on March 23, 2020, 08:40:20 PM
+1 againAnother vote for the 7mm here.
+1
+1 (again x2)
The best long range rifle is the one you shoot all the time and are comfortable with. 7mag has just the right amount of energy vs. recoil (for me) that I can get performance but shoot it a lot. :twocents:
:yeah: +1, times... 3? But I'm biased.
Post by: tgomez on March 25, 2020, 03:33:03 PM