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Title: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: hunter399 on April 03, 2020, 07:45:18 AM: Just thought I would get some feed back on what hunters really think about some hunting staying open ,with most being closed.
I will add poll too for people who want to add to it without debate.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: greenhead_killer on April 03, 2020, 08:08:55 AM: As much as it sucks, the faster we contain this, the faster we will get by it and stuff will open up again. Being in the woods hunting or sitting on the lake fishing isn’t gonna be the issue. The issue is the travel back and forth. Too much potential for exposure to areas that might already be locked up tight. Not an easy decision, but I think the quicker we contain it, we will be back to running around sooner than we know it
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: Bango skank on April 03, 2020, 08:22:42 AM: Cougar and coyote are not high participation, destination hunts is how susewind put it. You dont have hundreds of hunters from cities crowding into one or two small towns to hunt lions and coyotes.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 03, 2020, 08:26:52 AM: If spring bear wasn't limited permits, but statewide all GMU and OTC; then I would doubt many people would be moving about the whole state. Bear, overall, is a low participation hunt too.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: nwhunter on April 03, 2020, 08:27:26 AM: It should be left open like most other activities that shouldn't have been closed to everyone..Its easier to put a blanket rule on everyone and enforce it is the reason for all the closures I think. I do think it is unfair to those of us that live in remote areas and can do many recreational activities without any travel that would be a risk to others and it could keep some sort of normalcy in ours and our kids lives through this. But then it wouldn't be fair to those that choose to live in the big cities where the biggest threat is and we live in a world where most people think things should be even and fair.... I can walk out my back door to the river and never see a soul and fish with my kids . My friends live in sekiu and their boats can be moored at the dock and they could spend all day on the water and not go to a store or gas station. Plenty of people have land with turkeys on them and their kids could be hunting the opener without going anywhere. That's all safe and would be a great healthy activity but since we all can't do it safely shut it all down and make it fair. Not enough people hunt cougar and coyotes, sadly, so unless we make it seem like its going to get real popular on here they may chose to ignore that . If we could continue to do some recreational activites within the county we are a resident of would be a great fix and a strict stay at home for the hotbed areas but enforcing it is the problem.. So ya leave open what hasn't been closed already. With how good wdfw pays attention to our massive predator problems in this state they probly don't even remember its open :bash:
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: hunter399 on April 03, 2020, 08:41:19 AM: Quote from: JimmyHoffa on April 03, 2020, 08:26:52 AM
If spring bear wasn't limited permits, but statewide all GMU and OTC; then I would doubt many people would be moving about the whole state. Bear, overall, is a low participation hunt too.
I Agree
You look at harvest report
Not everybody reports and out of the people that do report 1/2 of the permits get hunted.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: jasnt on April 03, 2020, 08:48:48 AM: I say leave it open but restrict travel. Life’s not fair
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: birdshooter1189 on April 03, 2020, 09:31:42 AM: My vote is to leave them both open. I think the second part tied to it about (and allow people to travel) is skewing the vote here. I would have voted to keep them both open but no travel to still abide by the shelter in place orders.

I live in the woods, I have a bait site behind my house and motion alarms. I shoot coyotes from the kitchen window without even having to step out of my house.

I can shelter in place and still go coyote hunting. :chuckle:
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: Cougartail on April 03, 2020, 09:40:24 AM: I voted to leave both open and do what your mommy should have taught you. Wash your hands.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: Bango skank on April 03, 2020, 09:43:08 AM: Quote from: birdshooter1189 on April 03, 2020, 09:31:42 AM

I live in the woods, I have a bait site behind my house and motion alarms. I shoot coyotes from the kitchen window without even having to step out of my house.

I can shelter in place and still go coyote hunting. :chuckle:

I just tried baiting some yotes too. But my bait which was new and untouched last night is gone this morning. Lesson learned, tie it to a tree. Cat must have drug it off.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: birdshooter1189 on April 03, 2020, 10:32:27 AM: Quote from: Bango skank on April 03, 2020, 09:43:08 AM
Quote from: birdshooter1189 on April 03, 2020, 09:31:42 AM

I live in the woods, I have a bait site behind my house and motion alarms. I shoot coyotes from the kitchen window without even having to step out of my house.

I can shelter in place and still go coyote hunting. :chuckle:

I just tried baiting some yotes too. But my bait which was new and untouched last night is gone this morning. Lesson learned, tie it to a tree. Cat must have drug it off.

I've had pretty good success baiting. I'm using this driveway alarm system:

https://www.amazon.com/Hosmart-Rechargable-Driveway-Wireless-Weatherproof/dp/B07PSKCQ1X/ref=sr_1_11_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=hosmart%2Bdriveway%2Balarm&qid=1585934665&sr=8-11-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExM1BaRVpPUk9HNU1TJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzMyNzEwWFU1MVhBS0xTOFZVJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA4MTM3NzhHUDJDODVGV1FVSE4md2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl&th=1

I have one sensor on the bait pile. Two other sensors are on game trails about 100 yds out from the bait pile to give me advance warning so i can be ready when they show up. The base unit has 4 different tunes for the different sensors so I know which sensor got tripped.

For bait I bought a costco rotisserie chicken and shredded the entire thing into marble size pieces. Then threw little bags of that mix in the freezer. To set bait out I thaw out a bag of that and then sprinkle the pieces on the ground in front of the bait pile sensor. Small pieces of bait is better than a single big chunk so the predator doesn't grab the bait and run off. They have to stay there to sniff out all the small pieces.

I have also used cans of cat soft food, or hard cat food sprinkled on the ground. The chicken seems to work best for me though.

I also put a game camera on the bait pile so that if it gets cleaned out and I didn't hear the alarm, i can go back and see what cleaned it out.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: Katmai Guy on April 03, 2020, 10:35:58 AM: Any problem with possums or rats keeping you up at night?
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: KFhunter on April 03, 2020, 10:43:24 AM: Quote from: Bango skank on April 03, 2020, 09:43:08 AM
Quote from: birdshooter1189 on April 03, 2020, 09:31:42 AM

I live in the woods, I have a bait site behind my house and motion alarms. I shoot coyotes from the kitchen window without even having to step out of my house.

I can shelter in place and still go coyote hunting. :chuckle:

I just tried baiting some yotes too. But my bait which was new and untouched last night is gone this morning. Lesson learned, tie it to a tree. Cat must have drug it off.

I've shot a few dragging an impressive amount of weight for a 30lb yote :chuckle:
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: Bango skank on April 03, 2020, 10:44:45 AM: Ive been thinking of getting a motion sensor too. The yotes almost always show up at night, very rarely when im awake. Just checked my cam, this cat got a free meal. Waste of a perfectly good dead goat. Perfect paintball target for you bart!
Time to stop putting stuff out anyway, bears will be moving soon. I tend to get april bear activity at my place, so this was my final yote baiting attempt for the year.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: hunter399 on April 03, 2020, 11:37:09 AM: I know participation is low on these species.
The reason the poll says travel is not all gmu is open for cougar.Its not a general season. So you may have to travel a limited distance to hunt.

Coyote truly if you are recreation hunting coyote your gonna call ,move setup,call,move setup,call,move setup,ECT. Five times maybe for a day hunt typically a few miles apart.

Although I don't care that they left it open,Its ok with me.Hunter opportunity ECT.Just like myself many hunters in the wake of seasons shutdown may use this as a excuse to be in the woods.Lord knows I will.So I was just trying to get some feelings on it.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: buckfvr on April 03, 2020, 12:57:30 PM: This poll shows exactly why myself and others over here are glad they shut it down.....argue all you want, you just don't get it.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on April 03, 2020, 12:57:40 PM: I see very little problem considering so many other things are open. The virus will spread in grocery stores. Think, 7 million people in this state, probably 2 million still converging on grocery stores and fast food places. I can't believe the 1000 at most predator hunters would have any noticeable impact. You'd have to shut EVERYTHING down to really make the virus burn itself out. That's not going to happen.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: KFhunter on April 03, 2020, 07:44:46 PM: The difference is no one drives across the state to buy groceries.

If people live eat and contaminate their own pools it can be tracked and mitigated, if they run across the state and contaminate someone else's pool its nearly impossible and it becomes a community spread.

Right now we have a few cases, but its not community spread yet, its all associated to certain people and can be tracked and mitigated, and has been. We're still pretty safe in rural areas.

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Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: Roosevelt walleye on April 04, 2020, 07:44:42 AM: Closing seasons stops a few people from traveling this direction closing highways is what they would do if they really wanted to be effective.
Title: Re: You ok with cougar+coyote stays open.
Post by: Rainier10 on April 04, 2020, 08:08:41 AM: I have a vacation home and land in eastern Washington. I can get here and back on a tank of fuel. I bring my groceries from the west side. I hope to not get in an accident or need emergency services. As long as I don’t I feel like my impact is minimal.

I was out last weekend planting 1,000 seedling pine trees. I saw multiple vehicles and multiple couples hiking up the road through my property onto DNR land. My thought was they were probably from eburg. Probably do that hike everyday and I’m not going to stop them. One was a family, dad and his four kids. Drove just past my place and parked next to the road. Had a picnic and let his kids through rock, bang sticks even play with one of those styrofoam airplanes. I figured they probably needed some fresh air. Maybe lived in an apartment.

The point is I’m not going to be the buzz kill the enforces the stay at home rules.

If you absolutely have to get outside, do it. If there is a penalty take it. Some of us do it with speeding, turn signals or seatbelts all things that keep us and others safe but we disregard the rule.

Make your own decision and let others make theirs.

I do hope the guys that take predator hunting serious do get out and help our herds, just be smart about how you do it.