Post by: Machias on April 03, 2020, 09:17:01 PM
Post by: Machias on April 03, 2020, 09:19:54 PM
Public Attendance via Telephone: Consistent with Proclamation of the Governor dated March 18, 2020, regarding Open Meeting Law compliance, the public may listen to the conference call by dialing (408) 418-9388, and entering Access Code: 965-072-806.
There will be no opportunity for in-person attendance or public comment or questions during the meeting.
Agenda
Update on agency actions under state proclaimed state of extreme emergency for COVID-19.
[Action Item] Temporary rulemaking to set temporary limits on the number of nonresident license/tag/permits corresponding to the number sold to date.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on April 03, 2020, 09:25:22 PM
Post by: Bango skank on April 03, 2020, 11:39:52 PM
What do you suppose they mean by that?
Post by: jackelope on April 03, 2020, 11:55:10 PM
"to set temporary limits on the number of nonresident license/tag/permits corresponding to the number sold to date."
What do you suppose they mean by that?
I suspect they’ll cap the non resident licenses for spring bear and turkey where they’re currently at.
:dunno:
Post by: Bango skank on April 03, 2020, 11:59:14 PM
Post by: meatwhack on April 04, 2020, 06:03:40 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 04, 2020, 06:40:36 AM
Thats what it sounded like to me. Glad i got all my tags.
:yeah: glad my wallet diarrhea has already taken place
Post by: hunter399 on April 04, 2020, 07:05:02 AM
Hopefully everybody that has already got tags will continue to hunt.
Post by: idahohuntr on April 04, 2020, 08:25:47 AM
WA state and its closures were specifically cited as a big reason for ID doing this :chuckle:
I'm really starting to think fall hunts could get screwed up if this virus follows typical influenza seasonal patterns.
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 09:16:05 AM
I got mine 1st day, bro got his a day or two later, checking on the rest of the crew but I'm betting there's a few procrastinators this'll eliminate.
What does suck is I only bought one wolf tag, thinking if I got one I'd buy another tag later.
Post by: cbond3318 on April 04, 2020, 09:19:41 AM
Elk camp might be short a few guys this year :o
I got mine 1st day, bro got his a day or two later, checking on the rest of the crew but I'm betting there's a few procrastinators this'll eliminate.
What does suck is I only bought one wolf tag, thinking if I got one I'd buy another tag later.
You can still buy your license and deer/elk tags.
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 09:20:57 AM
So this is just spring hunts affected? I got my bear already
Post by: cbond3318 on April 04, 2020, 09:22:53 AM
Oh thanks
So this is just spring hunts affected? I got my bear already
Spring Bear, Turkey, wolf , cougar , fishing and trapping sales are suspended.
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 09:25:33 AM
residents and resident hunters, anglers, and trappers are reminded about state of Idaho guidance for outdoor recreation: follow social distancing directives of at least 6 feet, day trips are encouraged, check before heading out because many recreation sites are closed, and bring your own supplies. Outfitting and guiding are permissible with adherence to outdoor recreation guidelines.
The following is the list of nonresident items suspended from sale:
Nonresident annual and three-year combination, fishing, and trapping licenses.
Nonresident Hunting Passports.
Nonresident junior annual and three-year fishing licenses.
Nonresident annual and 3-day small game hunting licenses.
Nonresident daily (including consecutive day) fishing licenses.
Nonresident 3-day fishing licenses with salmon/steelhead permits.
Nonresident nongame hunting licenses.
Nonresident game tags for black bear, turkey, mountain lion, and gray wolf, including nonresident junior mentored and nonresident disabled American veteran tags for these species.
Nonresident permits for black bear baiting, hound hunter, salmon, and steelhead.
Nonresident falconry meet permits.
Nonresident sport dog and falconry training permits.
Nonresident fishing tournament permits (suspension of sales of resident and nonresident tournament permits was implemented by Order 20-30).
Nonresident dog field trial permits.
Post by: trophyhunt on April 04, 2020, 09:39:18 AM
:rolleyes:
Post by: jackelope on April 04, 2020, 09:43:03 AM
So with the uproar on here with some people about guys going antler hunting, wanting to hunt youth turkey and spring bear, do you same guys hate Idaho for letting their residents hunt and fish? I mean, how selfish is Idaho? They’ll probably be the next epicenter!
:rolleyes:
If you’re talking about me, I don’t hate Idaho. I don’t hate anyone. I do think people need to use common sense and understand the restrictions put on us are aimed at the travel aspect and not the hunting aspect. It seems very obvious to me yet folks keep going back to the “I don’t see anyone else in the woods” thing and that’s not at all what it’s about. I’m not sure if people don’t understand that for some reason or just choose to ignore it. So which one is it?
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 09:43:19 AM
So with the uproar on here with some people about guys going antler hunting, wanting to hunt youth turkey and spring bear, do you same guys hate Idaho for letting their residents hunt and fish? I mean, how selfish is Idaho? They’ll probably be the next epicenter!
:rolleyes:
If Washington hadn't closed spring bear, I couldn't blame a person a bit for using their tag.
Idaho is keeping things open, I have 800+ bux of tags and licenses in my pocket, I'm going to use them unless they close the season like WA did.
Then I will seek a refund.
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 04, 2020, 09:43:42 AM
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 09:45:40 AM
let us know what you see if you try to buy one?
I may try to buy a 2nd wolf tag...
Post by: Timberstalker on April 04, 2020, 09:51:19 AM
I think they knew that, effective immediately.
let us know what you see if you try to buy one?
I may try to buy a 2nd wolf tag...
I thought wolf tags were suspended?
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 09:51:49 AM
tons of missing stuff on the tabs
I cannot buy a 2nd wolf tag
they're just gone off the purchase tabs *poof*
Post by: trophyhunt on April 04, 2020, 09:57:14 AM
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 10:00:25 AM
I’m not by any means calling you out Josh, I understand where you stand. I was just wondering how the guys that think some of us are selfish azz hats feel about the Idaho residents enjoying their freedom to hunt and fish, do they think all those residents are being selfish too?
"It is what it is" - regarding different states doing different styles of lock downs, we can't change any of it here.
The animosity being shared on this HW forum isn't going to change anything in the real world, all you can do here is cause discontent, and cause others to not enjoy your presence.
Post by: jackelope on April 04, 2020, 10:02:48 AM
So do people understand the goal is not to stop you from hunting? It’s to keep people in their own communities limiting the risk of spreading it to a different community with low to no case counts. You have a lot of cases in your county. Garfield county has zero cases right now. Walla Walla county has 8 positive cases. They’d like to keep it that way.
Post by: jackelope on April 04, 2020, 10:03:56 AM
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 10:04:21 AM
Personally I think they’re just making recommendations right now to see how the future holds out. Wouldn’t surprise me if they shut it down. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
So do people understand the goal is not to stop you from hunting? It’s to keep people in their own communities limiting the risk of spreading it to a different community with low to no case counts. You have a lot of cases in your county. Garfield county has zero cases right now. Walla Walla county has 8 positive cases. They’d like to keep it that way.
:yeah:
Perzactly!
I too would not be suprised in the slightest if they shut down all non-res hunting and fishing in Idaho...
I would
:peep:
Post by: hunter399 on April 04, 2020, 10:32:16 AM
Personally I think they’re just making recommendations right now to see how the future holds out. Wouldn’t surprise me if they shut it down. Nothing would surprise me at this point.I'm not trying to be the bearer of bad news .But I've seen a few campers,dirtbiker,ECT. The past few days and this mourning as a matter of fact.
So do people understand the goal is not to stop you from hunting? It’s to keep people in their own communities limiting the risk of spreading it to a different community with low to no case counts. You have a lot of cases in your county. Garfield county has zero cases right now. Walla Walla county has 8 positive cases. They’d like to keep it that way.
The longer the shutdown stays the more recreation will continue to the point that nobody will even care that we are shutdown.
I guess what I'm saying is with so many essential places to go and do things .At some point They will only be hurting sportsmen on the lock down.And quite a few of us believe we are at that point now.
Post by: jackelope on April 04, 2020, 10:36:29 AM
But again, the “essential” stuff is supposed to be in your own area as much as possible. I totally get where you’re coming from. It’s ultra frustrating but saying screw it does nothing to get this over with.
Post by: hunter399 on April 04, 2020, 10:48:06 AM
It’s not about who it’s hurting. It’s about who we’re not hurting.
But again, the “essential” stuff is supposed to be in your own area as much as possible. I totally get where you’re coming from. It’s ultra frustrating but saying screw it does nothing to get this over with.
I get it the travel issue is what it's all about .
There is two sides of the coin/ or two sides of the state.All of hunting got shutdown cause people won't stay on there side of the state.
So As a eastsider I could say I got screwed over by all the west side hunter.Now let's add Idaho into this ,even they are gonna honor non-residents tags that have already sold.Washington won't honor permits they already awarded,and don't want to refund anything .I say 👎 👎 👎
Post by: ghosthunter on April 04, 2020, 10:48:27 AM
Well I guess this takes care of any idea of hunting turkey here.
From: Idaho Fish and Game [mailto:idfishgame@public.govdelivery.com]
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Subject: Nonresident licenses, permits, and tags sales temporarily suspended by F&G Commission
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idaho fish and game
Nonresident licenses, permits, and tags sales temporarily suspended by F&G Commission
Nonresidents who purchase a 2020 hunting license may still apply for controlled hunts that will occur this fall.
At their April 4 meeting, the Idaho Fish and Game Commission adopted a rule that temporarily suspends the sale of several types of nonresident fishing and hunting licenses, tags, and permits. The action is effective immediately and lasts until the rule is repealed consistent with relevant state of Idaho public health orders.
The Commission found this rulemaking supportive of the protection of public health consistent with the March 25 Idaho Department of Health and Welfare Order to Self-Isolate for the State of Idaho in response to COVID-19.
Fishing and hunting licenses, tags, and permits purchased by nonresidents prior to the April 4 Commission action are still valid for existing hunting, fishing, and trapping seasons, which remain in effect.
Nonresident hunting licenses along with currently available nonresident deer and elk tags are not included in the suspension. Nonresidents who purchase a 2020 hunting license may still apply for controlled hunts that will occur this fall.
The Commission action does not affect Idaho residents and there are no new limitations on resident purchase of licenses, tags, and permits or any changes to existing seasons.
Nonresidents and resident hunters, anglers, and trappers are reminded about state of Idaho guidance for outdoor recreation: follow social distancing directives of at least 6 feet, day trips are encouraged, check before heading out because many recreation sites are closed, and bring your own supplies. Outfitting and guiding are permissible with adherence to outdoor recreation guidelines.
The following is the list of nonresident items suspended from sale
Nonresident annual and three-year combination, fishing, and trapping licenses.
Nonresident Hunting Passports.
Nonresident junior annual and three-year fishing licenses.
Nonresident annual and 3-day small game hunting licenses.
Nonresident daily (including consecutive day) fishing licenses.
Nonresident 3-day fishing licenses with salmon/steelhead permits.
Nonresident nongame hunting licenses.
Nonresident game tags for black bear, turkey, mountain lion, and gray wolf, including nonresident junior mentored and nonresident disabled American veteran tags for these species.
Nonresident permits for black bear baiting, hound hunter, salmon, and steelhead.
Nonresident falconry meet permits.
Nonresident sport dog and falconry training permits.
Nonresident fishing tournament permits (suspension of sales of resident and nonresident tournament permits was implemented by Order 20-30).
Nonresident dog field trial permits.
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Post by: h20hunter on April 04, 2020, 10:50:48 AM
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 10:53:41 AM
Last I checked your address gave you jack crap dibs on any side of the state. I buy a state tag for wa or a fishing license its for the state. The east west argument is so worn out its absurd. Yes a few tags you designate east or west but this pandemic is not an east west thing. It's global. Global.
Spread the "love"?
Post by: Wazntme on April 04, 2020, 11:06:52 AM
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 11:15:07 AM
It sure sounds to me like the East siders don’t want us wet siders coming over there and I completely understand. But how many East siders will be coming over to the wet side to go out on their lingcod, bottomfish, or halibut trips. On may 5 the day after this order hopefully expires the virus will still be here so we will still be possibly infecting people, so let’s all be team wa not teams East west.
It won't be an issue, they aren't going to open fishing and keep hunting closed. It'll all open at the same time.
Post by: Katmai Guy on April 04, 2020, 11:19:14 AM
Post by: Jimmy33 on April 04, 2020, 11:40:28 AM
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Post by: TriggerMike on April 04, 2020, 11:40:40 AM
I suspect this will now cause a panic purchase and deer and elk tags will start to disappear really fast.
:yeah: I just panicked and bought mine this morning lol.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 04, 2020, 11:51:15 AM
I suspect this will now cause a panic purchase and deer and elk tags will start to disappear really fast.
:yeah: I just panicked and bought mine this morning lol.
oh yea, all be gone in a few days......
Post by: bearpaw on April 04, 2020, 12:10:29 PM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,248146.msg3339684.html#msg3339684
Post by: hunter399 on April 04, 2020, 12:42:39 PM
Idaho is awesome to to allow people who already bought there tags to come hunt.Washinhton 👎 👎 👎
Post by: bearpaw on April 04, 2020, 12:49:53 PM
I am receiving guidance on best practices for operating my outfitting business in Idaho. In WA a blanket closure, even though I have turkeys and bear hunting available without even going through town.
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 04, 2020, 12:59:53 PM
no further non-res sales, hunters who already have tags and licenses can hunt
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,248146.msg3339684.html#msg3339684
But my understanding is that you can still buy a non res license and deer and elk tags...you just can't buy a tag for something currently open or about to be open.? Am I wrong.
Post by: bearpaw on April 04, 2020, 01:02:44 PM
no further non-res sales, hunters who already have tags and licenses can hunt
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,248146.msg3339684.html#msg3339684
But my understanding is that you can still buy a non res license and deer and elk tags...you just can't buy a tag for something currently open or about to be open.? Am I wrong.
You are correct, and you can still enter drawings.
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 01:04:07 PM
no further non-res sales, hunters who already have tags and licenses can hunt
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,248146.msg3339684.html#msg3339684
But my understanding is that you can still buy a non res license and deer and elk tags...you just can't buy a tag for something currently open or about to be open.? Am I wrong.
I don't think you can buy the hunting license itself.
Post by: cbond3318 on April 04, 2020, 01:11:49 PM
no further non-res sales, hunters who already have tags and licenses can hunt
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,248146.msg3339684.html#msg3339684
But my understanding is that you can still buy a non res license and deer and elk tags...you just can't buy a tag for something currently open or about to be open.? Am I wrong.
I don't think you can buy the hunting license itself.
You can, just not the combo and 3 yr combo.
Post by: bearpaw on April 04, 2020, 07:03:50 PM
no further non-res sales, hunters who already have tags and licenses can hunt
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,248146.msg3339684.html#msg3339684
But my understanding is that you can still buy a non res license and deer and elk tags...you just can't buy a tag for something currently open or about to be open.? Am I wrong.
I don't think you can buy the hunting license itself.
You can, just not the combo and 3 yr combo.
:bdid: I think this is correct, it's not on the list and you couldn't apply in the draws if you don't buy a hunt license.
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 04, 2020, 07:38:28 PM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 04, 2020, 07:46:54 PM
I just checked, general hunting license and 3 year license where still available for me to purchase..I bet this won't take affect till tomorrow or Monday. Also deer, elk tags and permit options still showed available.That’s because they are allowing purchase of general hunting license, 3 yr hunting license, deer & elk tags and controlled hunt applications. It’s already taken effect, go try to buy a bear or turkey tag right now.
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Post by: fishngamereaper on April 04, 2020, 07:48:46 PM
I just checked, general hunting license and 3 year license where still available for me to purchase..I bet this won't take affect till tomorrow or Monday. Also deer, elk tags and permit options still showed available.That’s because they are allowing purchase of general hunting license, 3 yr hunting license, deer & elk tags and controlled hunt applications. It’s already taken effect, go try to buy a bear or turkey tag right now.
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Your probably right..but I thought the 3 year was one of the options put on hold..
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 04, 2020, 08:00:38 PM
3 year combination yes, because it would allow fishing which they don’t want people coming here to do right nowI just checked, general hunting license and 3 year license where still available for me to purchase..I bet this won't take affect till tomorrow or Monday. Also deer, elk tags and permit options still showed available.That’s because they are allowing purchase of general hunting license, 3 yr hunting license, deer & elk tags and controlled hunt applications. It’s already taken effect, go try to buy a bear or turkey tag right now.
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Your probably right..but I thought the 3 year was one of the options put on hold..
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Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 04, 2020, 09:07:36 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on April 09, 2020, 09:14:54 AM
https://idfg.idaho.gov/press/fg-commission-amends-earlier-decision-and-allows-more-nonresident-license-tag-and-permit-sales