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Equipment & Gear => Power Equipment & RV => Topic started by: Machias on April 08, 2020, 10:11:27 AM
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So the wife and I have been living completely off the grid for 22 months now. In that time we get all of our power from 2 generators, a champion 4000 and a Honda 1000. We both get home from work at 1700ish and run the big generator from 1700 to 2200ish. Then we switch over to the Honda 1000 from 2200 to 0600. I have to run the small generator at night for my CPAP. I'd really like to get a solar system that can at least run my CPAP at night, if not everything during the 5 hours at night, except for the microwave and or the coffee maker, which we run for just a few minutes. My plan is to buy a true deep cycle battery. Will a 300w solar panel recharge the battery on most sunny days? Any equipment recommendations? Thanks
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Lets see?
Solar panels
charge controller
inverter
associated wiring and junction boxes
batteries
Fred, what are you bugeting for this? Can you take a pic of any information on the cpap, that my hint to power consumtion?
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If you are handy, and know a local electrician willing to do final hookups, this company out of Mount Shasta, CA has very good pricing on wholesale kits. And can scale a kit to your needs, although some of the pre-configured kits may work just fine.
http://www.wholesalesolar.com/
With instructions, etc.
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With the heated humidifier it's 90ish watts. Budget, whatever I need, I know the lithium batteries are more costly up front, but a better option long term.
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If you are handy, and know a local electrician willing to do final hookups, this company out of Mount Shasta, CA has very good pricing on wholesale kits. And can scale a kit to your needs:
http://www.wholesalesolar.com/
With instructions, etc.
I'll do the wiring, wired my own cabin.
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With the heated humidifier it's 90ish watts. Budget, whatever I need, I know the lithium batteries are more costly up front, but a better option long term.
For lithium batteries, Battle Born is US based (manufactured in Reno, NV) and well respected. https://battlebornbatteries.com/applications/off-grid/
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https://www.backwoodssolar.com/learning-center/system-example-1-starter-solar-power-system
About 95% of my current system I have purchased through Backwoods, thay have treated me and the neighbors great. What maybe great news to you is, they are in Sandpoint. Not sure how close that is to you. The link is to there basic starter kit, great place to start.
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About an hour north of me.
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If you are handy, and know a local electrician willing to do final hookups, this company out of Mount Shasta, CA has very good pricing on wholesale kits. And can scale a kit to your needs:
http://www.wholesalesolar.com/
With instructions, etc.
I'll do the wiring, wired my own cabin.
After you do the math on solar panels and storage.. double it. Trust me on this!
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Call Windy Nation Solar. They have a very good tech section. I have installed a Windy Nation system of every RV we have owned, and thats a lot. Reasonable prices with great customer service.
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Tagging along just to gather more info and links to companies. I bought a 100Z kit from Renogy for the barn/greenhouse still need to get it hooked up.
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I just took my old system (trace) out of my place and installed a new 8KW system from outback.
There was nothing wrong with my old system just that it was not big enough for my usage. I will be putting the whole thing up for sale here but I can send you the information on it before I put it up here. Inverter, charge controller, switch to turn the generator on when battery level is too low. I would recommend getting new panels, mine are 15 years old and the newer panels put out more watts but there is technically nothing wrong with my panels either.
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I just took my old system (trace) out of my place and installed a new 8KW system from outback.
There was nothing wrong with my old system just that it was not big enough for my usage. I will be putting the whole thing up for sale here but I can send you the information on it before I put it up here. Inverter, charge controller, switch to turn the generator on when battery level is too low. I would recommend getting new panels, mine are 15 years old and the newer panels put out more watts but there is technically nothing wrong with my panels either.
Outback has some good systems. They are out of Arlington, WA.
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Beware, Inverters come in two flavors. True sine wave and modified sine wave. I will leave it to the electrians to explain the difference.
But for me it was a learning curve of smoking curcuit boards, with the modified sine wave. You cannot believe how many things these days have them. Get the true sine wave inverter and dont look back. :twocents:
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Following along!
I am totally curios what it would cost you to install solar?
Everytime I run the math, I come up with 10-15 years to recoup the cost, and by then you would have to replace everything and basically start all over again.
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Following along!
I am totally curios what it would cost you to install solar?
Everytime I run the math, I come up with 10-15 years to recoup the cost, and by then you would have to replace everything and basically start all over again.
From a cost perspective, Solar is hard to pencil out for states as far north as Washington. Especially since states like Washington and Oregon have such cheap electricity compared to other states. For southern states with more annual sun exposure and higher electricity rates, it pencils out well. California, Hawaii, Arizona, etc. is a total no-brainer for solar.
Panels last longer these days and have longer warranties, so wouldn't have to replace after 10 years. But your point on payback is valid, and varies by state.
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Following along!
I am totally curios what it would cost you to install solar?
Everytime I run the math, I come up with 10-15 years to recoup the cost, and by then you would have to replace everything and basically start all over again.
https://www.backwoodssolar.com/learning-center
This learning center page, is really nice for giving you an idea whats involved. It gives you 6 diffent examples, in varoius sized systems.
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Just tally up the fuel cost, from the last 2 years..
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Fred, what are you using for refrigeration?
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Following along!
I am totally curios what it would cost you to install solar?
Everytime I run the math, I come up with 10-15 years to recoup the cost, and by then you would have to replace everything and basically start all over again.
https://www.backwoodssolar.com/learning-center
This learning center page, is really nice for giving you an idea whats involved. It gives you 6 diffent examples, in varoius sized systems.
Thank you, that is a handy source.
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Fred, what are you using for refrigeration?
Rtic cooler and a block of ice!
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I just took my old system (trace) out of my place and installed a new 8KW system from outback.
There was nothing wrong with my old system just that it was not big enough for my usage. I will be putting the whole thing up for sale here but I can send you the information on it before I put it up here. Inverter, charge controller, switch to turn the generator on when battery level is too low. I would recommend getting new panels, mine are 15 years old and the newer panels put out more watts but there is technically nothing wrong with my panels either.
Sure, please let me know. Thanks
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I have around 50 repeater sites about 50% are solar powered only around 6 have thermal electric generator back up. The picture here is of a site that I have 9 155 Ah batteries with 3 165 watt 12 VDC panels. Batteries are all tied in parallel so 155 Ah x 9, 1395 Ah of batteries. Panels are tied in parallel 165x3 495 watts. Total amount of watts for the batteries is 16740 watt hours. All the calculations show that what I have is not enough solar to total charge the batteries up to a good float level or mantain it there. You want a system where you have a larger charging system from your solar than your batteries is what I have been told by solar experts. Yiu also wany to look at a 24 or 48 VDC system. They are more efficient and have much larger output panels.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200408/1714a5284547770fe8b8dfdd81bf5210.jpg)
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My old and new system are true sine wave. New system cost $32,000 installed. I had the 8 Trojan batteries.
The reason I had it installed rather than DIY was I didn’t have the time and I got a tax break of 26% of the system cost. $32,000 system = $8,320 tax credit. At the end of this year if my tax burden is $30,000 I only have to pay $21,680 in taxes. Also there is no sales tax on the $32,000.
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Fred, what are you using for refrigeration?
Rtic cooler and a block of ice!
I'm surprised you don't have a propane powered fridge...
I do like following along on your threads about your place and what your doing :tup:
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Fred, what are you using for refrigeration?
Rtic cooler and a block of ice!
I'm surprised you don't have a propane powered fridge...
I do like following along on your threads about your place and what your doing :tup:
Have you priced a propane fridge? I have bought two, in the 16 years we have lived here. The last fridge we bought is electric, and our system is supporting it. But I push my system. This hillbilly, likes luxury. :chuckle:
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Following along!
I am totally curios what it would cost you to install solar?
Everytime I run the math, I come up with 10-15 years to recoup the cost, and by then you would have to replace everything and basically start all over again.
From a cost perspective, Solar is hard to pencil out for states as far north as Washington. Especially since states like Washington and Oregon have such cheap electricity compared to other states. For southern states with more annual sun exposure and higher electricity rates, it pencils out well. California, Hawaii, Arizona, etc. is a total no-brainer for solar.
Panels last longer these days and have longer warranties, so wouldn't have to replace after 10 years. But your point on payback is valid, and varies by state.
:yeah:
When grid power isn't an option then solar makes sense. With that said, I now have solar and both of my neighbors have solar. All of our systems were around $30k each. For the $100k we could have all gone in together on bringing power to our places and increased the property value of every lot around us.
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Fred, what are you using for refrigeration?
Rtic cooler and a block of ice!
I'm surprised you don't have a propane powered fridge...
I do like following along on your threads about your place and what your doing :tup:
Have you priced a propane fridge? I have bought two, in the 16 years we have lived here. The last fridge we bought is electric, and our system is supporting it. But I push my system. This hillbilly, likes luxury. :chuckle:
Yep new they are not cheap at all, i was thinking more of a used one out of an RV..... I know someone that has a off grid cabin and picked one up for a few hundred bucks from a wrecked rv and has been using it for years
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Fred, what are you using for refrigeration?
Rtic cooler and a block of ice!
I'm surprised you don't have a propane powered fridge...
I do like following along on your threads about your place and what your doing :tup:
Have you priced a propane fridge? I have bought two, in the 16 years we have lived here. The last fridge we bought is electric, and our system is supporting it. But I push my system. This hillbilly, likes luxury. :chuckle:
Yep new they are not cheap at all, i was thinking more of a used one out of an RV..... I know someone that has a off grid cabin and picked one up for a few hundred bucks from a wrecked rv and has been using it for years
This is where we got ours. They are priceless once you have one.
https://bensdiscountsupply.com/propane-refrigerator/crystal-cold-refrigerators/
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Fred, what are you using for refrigeration?
Rtic cooler and a block of ice!
I'm surprised you don't have a propane powered fridge...
I do like following along on your threads about your place and what your doing :tup:
What happens when you can’t get propane?🤔
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125 gallon bottle can be loaded in a pickup and would run the average propane fridge for several months.
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125 gallon bottle can be loaded in a pickup and would run the average propane fridge for several months.
1-2 years how many gallons?
Long term survival mode.
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I'd hazard with a good shaded protected spot for storage you could put 5 125lb bottles aside for a year or more... or build yourself an offloading system and fill a 500 gallon tank yourself if delivery isn't available. If delivery is available. I'd put a 1200 gallon tank on (that I owned so I can determine when I want a fill and by whom) the property and go from there. I know of lots of folks that run everything on 1200 gallons a year.
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If you can't refrigerate for 2 years, I would think a pickup load of salt would be an alternative.
A typical 12 cubic foot propane refrigerator consumes an average 1.5 lbs. of propane per day
So, per year that would be about 550 pounds. Divide that by 4.2 should give about 130 gallons per year in that scenario.
https://homesteady.com/info-12182501-much-propane-propane-refrigerator-use.html
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I'd hazard with a good shaded protected spot for storage you could put 5 125lb bottles aside for a year or more... or build yourself an offloading system and fill a 500 gallon tank yourself if delivery isn't available. If delivery is available. I'd put a 1200 gallon tank on (that I owned so I can determine when I want a fill and by whom) the property and go from there. I know of lots of folks that run everything on 1200 gallons a year.
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I'd hazard with a good shaded protected spot for storage you could put 5 125lb bottles aside for a year or more... or build yourself an offloading system and fill a 500 gallon tank yourself if delivery isn't available. If delivery is available. I'd put a 1200 gallon tank on (that I owned so I can determine when I want a fill and by whom) the property and go from there. I know of lots of folks that run everything on 1200 gallons a year.
I have a 1,000 gallon tank. I run two refrigerators, two wall furnaces, a generator as needed, BBQ, cooktop and oven all year long. I fill it up every September and it lasts all year. It normally takes 480 gallons to top it off when they fill it. I should add that I am only there three weekends a month, sometimes two weekends but we are there throughout the year. When the snow hits I have a snocat for access.
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I ran a 1000 gal tank and had a frost free propane fridge. The full size are pretty expensive. You can find good deals on the web for scratch and dent models and save up to 50 per cent
Some of the new high efficiency fridges and freezers aren't bad on solar. I know a few that run them off the grid.
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I don't know if this really applies to your situation but I just read this blog about someone living in his RV completely reliant on solar. He's got a lot of opinions of how to set up solar.
https://handybobsolar.wordpress.com/the-rv-battery-charging-puzzle-2/
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We ran a few different systems over the years with combinations of solar, hydro, generator, and propane working together. If you are running the 4000w generator ~5hrs a day, it should keep a battery or two topped up with the addition of solar to trickle it all day you should be good for your current needs.
90w for the CPAP over say an average of 8 hours you are looking at 810 watts. Add in the inverter operational loss you are looking at about 80 amp hours needed just for the CPAP.
To keep it simple and fairly inexpensive, I would opt for a 300w panel setup, good charge controller, inverter >2000w (true sine as noted), and a bank of 4-6v AGM or conventional deep cycle batteries. Probably ~$5000 give or take on quality. Put in a few dedicated receptacles for inverter power, or add a switch that automatically or manually switches from inverter to generator.
I’ll second the propane fridge :tup: Worth it! Get a dual, parallel fuel system unit so you can run it entirely on 12v or entirely propane. Some systems need 12v to run the propane which is more efficient and common now, but the older pilot lit propane systems are much more trustworthy IMO.
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I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone for their inputs. Really been torn over this the past couple of years. We started this endeavor fully committed to going full solar, not because we are trying to save the planet or any of that BS, but because we knew going in what the cost was going to be to bring power in and we are in a spot perfect for solar. The plan was to start the house build last year in the spring. But that is when we started applying for a construction loan and found out after being rejected by dozens of places that you cannot get a construction loan for a home that is off the grid. Pretty frustrating. Then we finally decided, ok, we'll bite the bullet and bring the power in...which I'm pretty sure we will do this summer. In the meantime I am just trying to find a small system to support the nighttime use of the CPAP. Thanks again!!
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I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone for their inputs. Really been torn over this the past couple of years. We started this endeavor fully committed to going full solar, not because we are trying to save the planet or any of that BS, but because we knew going in what the cost was going to be to bring power in and we are in a spot perfect for solar. The plan was to start the house build last year in the spring. But that is when we started applying for a construction loan and found out after being rejected by dozens of places that you cannot get a construction loan for a home that is off the grid. Pretty frustrating. Then we finally decided, ok, we'll bite the bullet and bring the power in...which I'm pretty sure we will do this summer. In the meantime I am just trying to find a small system to support the nighttime use of the CPAP. Thanks again!!
Easiest thing is a DC adapter chord for your cpap. You can get them for about 35.00 on Amazon and then a clip on female adapter that goes to a battery. Just recharge the battery when running the generator. Other option is run an inverter off of a battery and recharge the same as above. I’ve done both and prefer the dc adapter and run straight off the battery.
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Based off living off grid 15 years I would pay to have power brought in. More difficult to get mortgages, loans, insurance and resale value etc. Plus its expensive and pain to deal with. My home owners insurance went up tenfold after sold house because located in a fire area ( surrounded by trees). My agent told me very difficult now to get insurance if live in a remote forested area. This was due, according to agent, to all of the insurance claims from the California fire a few years ago.
I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone for their inputs. Really been torn over this the past couple of years. We started this endeavor fully committed to going full solar, not because we are trying to save the planet or any of that BS, but because we knew going in what the cost was going to be to bring power in and we are in a spot perfect for solar. The plan was to start the house build last year in the spring. But that is when we started applying for a construction loan and found out after being rejected by dozens of places that you cannot get a construction loan for a home that is off the grid. Pretty frustrating. Then we finally decided, ok, we'll bite the bullet and bring the power in...which I'm pretty sure we will do this summer. In the meantime I am just trying to find a small system to support the nighttime use of the CPAP. Thanks again!!
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I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone for their inputs. Really been torn over this the past couple of years. We started this endeavor fully committed to going full solar, not because we are trying to save the planet or any of that BS, but because we knew going in what the cost was going to be to bring power in and we are in a spot perfect for solar. The plan was to start the house build last year in the spring. But that is when we started applying for a construction loan and found out after being rejected by dozens of places that you cannot get a construction loan for a home that is off the grid. Pretty frustrating. Then we finally decided, ok, we'll bite the bullet and bring the power in...which I'm pretty sure we will do this summer. In the meantime I am just trying to find a small system to support the nighttime use of the CPAP. Thanks again!!
https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html) Try this for just your CPAP
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I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone for their inputs. Really been torn over this the past couple of years. We started this endeavor fully committed to going full solar, not because we are trying to save the planet or any of that BS, but because we knew going in what the cost was going to be to bring power in and we are in a spot perfect for solar. The plan was to start the house build last year in the spring. But that is when we started applying for a construction loan and found out after being rejected by dozens of places that you cannot get a construction loan for a home that is off the grid. Pretty frustrating. Then we finally decided, ok, we'll bite the bullet and bring the power in...which I'm pretty sure we will do this summer. In the meantime I am just trying to find a small system to support the nighttime use of the CPAP. Thanks again!!
Easiest thing is a DC adapter chord for your cpap. You can get them for about 35.00 on Amazon and then a clip on female adapter that goes to a battery. Just recharge the battery when running the generator. Other option is run an inverter off of a battery and recharge the same as above. I’ve done both and prefer the dc adapter and run straight off the battery.
Got my DC cord yesterday in the mail from Amazon!! :)
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Based off living off grid 15 years I would pay to have power brought in. More difficult to get mortgages, loans, insurance and resale value etc. Plus its expensive and pain to deal with. My home owners insurance went up tenfold after sold house because located in a fire area ( surrounded by trees). My agent told me very difficult now to get insurance if live in a remote forested area. This was due, according to agent, to all of the insurance claims from the California fire a few years ago.
I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone for their inputs. Really been torn over this the past couple of years. We started this endeavor fully committed to going full solar, not because we are trying to save the planet or any of that BS, but because we knew going in what the cost was going to be to bring power in and we are in a spot perfect for solar. The plan was to start the house build last year in the spring. But that is when we started applying for a construction loan and found out after being rejected by dozens of places that you cannot get a construction loan for a home that is off the grid. Pretty frustrating. Then we finally decided, ok, we'll bite the bullet and bring the power in...which I'm pretty sure we will do this summer. In the meantime I am just trying to find a small system to support the nighttime use of the CPAP. Thanks again!!
We've come to that realization as well. It will pay for its self, heck guys buy a pickup truck for $65,000 every day. This will raise my property vaule a bunch and it will all be worth it. Thanks!
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Is 65,000 what they are charging to bring in power? If so, than yes I would have to say I agree with you, for property valve, resale, it is the right choice. Bringing in power was not an option for us.
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I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone for their inputs. Really been torn over this the past couple of years. We started this endeavor fully committed to going full solar, not because we are trying to save the planet or any of that BS, but because we knew going in what the cost was going to be to bring power in and we are in a spot perfect for solar. The plan was to start the house build last year in the spring. But that is when we started applying for a construction loan and found out after being rejected by dozens of places that you cannot get a construction loan for a home that is off the grid. Pretty frustrating. Then we finally decided, ok, we'll bite the bullet and bring the power in...which I'm pretty sure we will do this summer. In the meantime I am just trying to find a small system to support the nighttime use of the CPAP. Thanks again!!
https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html) Try this for just your CPAP
I will try it out, thanks Russ!!
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Is 65,000 what they are charging to bring in power? If so, than yes I would have to say I agree with you, for property valve, resale, it is the right choice. Bringing in power was not an option for us.
Yes!
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I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone for their inputs. Really been torn over this the past couple of years. We started this endeavor fully committed to going full solar, not because we are trying to save the planet or any of that BS, but because we knew going in what the cost was going to be to bring power in and we are in a spot perfect for solar. The plan was to start the house build last year in the spring. But that is when we started applying for a construction loan and found out after being rejected by dozens of places that you cannot get a construction loan for a home that is off the grid. Pretty frustrating. Then we finally decided, ok, we'll bite the bullet and bring the power in...which I'm pretty sure we will do this summer. In the meantime I am just trying to find a small system to support the nighttime use of the CPAP. Thanks again!!
https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html) Try this for just your CPAP
I will try it out, thanks Russ!!
I have seen some You Tube video of people powering a pretty large part of an off the grid cabin. I have this setup for my travel trailer. Haven't set it up yet though.
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I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone for their inputs. Really been torn over this the past couple of years. We started this endeavor fully committed to going full solar, not because we are trying to save the planet or any of that BS, but because we knew going in what the cost was going to be to bring power in and we are in a spot perfect for solar. The plan was to start the house build last year in the spring. But that is when we started applying for a construction loan and found out after being rejected by dozens of places that you cannot get a construction loan for a home that is off the grid. Pretty frustrating. Then we finally decided, ok, we'll bite the bullet and bring the power in...which I'm pretty sure we will do this summer. In the meantime I am just trying to find a small system to support the nighttime use of the CPAP. Thanks again!!
https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html) Try this for just your CPAP
I will try it out, thanks Russ!!
I was going to get this but then found one here for just a little more https://www.renogy.com/
The advantage of this one was it could be expanded to 400Watt and the harbor freight could not. Also one panel instead of 3-4 smaller panels.
Either will work I just wanted one that could expand if I decided I wanted to down the road.
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I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone for their inputs. Really been torn over this the past couple of years. We started this endeavor fully committed to going full solar, not because we are trying to save the planet or any of that BS, but because we knew going in what the cost was going to be to bring power in and we are in a spot perfect for solar. The plan was to start the house build last year in the spring. But that is when we started applying for a construction loan and found out after being rejected by dozens of places that you cannot get a construction loan for a home that is off the grid. Pretty frustrating. Then we finally decided, ok, we'll bite the bullet and bring the power in...which I'm pretty sure we will do this summer. In the meantime I am just trying to find a small system to support the nighttime use of the CPAP. Thanks again!!
https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html) Try this for just your CPAP
I will try it out, thanks Russ!!
I was going to get this but then found one here for just a little more https://www.renogy.com/
The advantage of this one was it could be expanded to 400Watt and the harbor freight could not. Also one panel instead of 3-4 smaller panels.
Either will work I just wanted one that could expand if I decided I wanted to down the road.
So which one on that site would you recommend? 100w expandable...which one? Thanks
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If you are already running generators, why not buy a deep cycle battery and inverter? I think you mentioned 90 watts, that's a small inverter that wouldn't be very expensive. The whole setup would be simple and you likely already have a battery charger, so maybe $200-300 tops for a big battery and inverter.
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If you are already running generators, why not buy a deep cycle battery and inverter? I think you mentioned 90 watts, that's a small inverter that wouldn't be very expensive. The whole setup would be simple and you likely already have a battery charger, so maybe $200-300 tops for a big battery and inverter.
I already have the DC adapter and it runs much longer on the DC adapter, so I really just need the battery, but it would be nice if it recharges all day while I'm at work, with the solar starter kit and have the generator charging as back up on cloudy days.
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Semi related to solar, but since the fridge topic came up here is a unique alternative that I've looked into. Meant for vehicles, but the power draw is extremely low at only 0.77 amps for the CFX-50W model. Would need a few of them, and they can be configured as either fridge or freezer. But the tiny amperage draw really saves on battery usage:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072K11QTG/ref=twister_B07GSMC11N?_encoding=UTF8&th=1
I know it probably sounds odd to have that instead of a standard standing traditional fridge or freezer....but for off grid applications the power savings are significant.
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I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone for their inputs. Really been torn over this the past couple of years. We started this endeavor fully committed to going full solar, not because we are trying to save the planet or any of that BS, but because we knew going in what the cost was going to be to bring power in and we are in a spot perfect for solar. The plan was to start the house build last year in the spring. But that is when we started applying for a construction loan and found out after being rejected by dozens of places that you cannot get a construction loan for a home that is off the grid. Pretty frustrating. Then we finally decided, ok, we'll bite the bullet and bring the power in...which I'm pretty sure we will do this summer. In the meantime I am just trying to find a small system to support the nighttime use of the CPAP. Thanks again!!
https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/100-watt-solar-panel-kit-63585.html) Try this for just your CPAP
I will try it out, thanks Russ!!
I was going to get this but then found one here for just a little more https://www.renogy.com/
The advantage of this one was it could be expanded to 400Watt and the harbor freight could not. Also one panel instead of 3-4 smaller panels.
Either will work I just wanted one that could expand if I decided I wanted to down the road.
So which one on that site would you recommend? 100w expandable...which one? Thanks
This is the one I bought instead of the Harbor Freight unit. If you are just looking for small starter I think this would work and it could be expanded to 4 100 watt panels.
https://www.renogy.com/renogy-100w-12v/starter-kit/
My goal is to use this in the winters in the barn/greenhouse for lighting with the battery out of my camper that otherwise just sits around does nothing, hunting season I can pull the battery back to the camper.
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If you are already running generators, why not buy a deep cycle battery and inverter? I think you mentioned 90 watts, that's a small inverter that wouldn't be very expensive. The whole setup would be simple and you likely already have a battery charger, so maybe $200-300 tops for a big battery and inverter.
I already have the DC adapter and it runs much longer on the DC adapter, so I really just need the battery, but it would be nice if it recharges all day while I'm at work, with the solar starter kit and have the generator charging as back up on cloudy days.
Gotcha, I just figured you were going to run the generator after work anyway and you could charge the battery while it was running anyway.
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:tup: :tup:
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Our system that EcoDepot in Spokane installed in February has 310 watt panels. We are on the grid, so no batteries, and each panel has a micro inverter. We have exceptional southern exposure, no shading at all and on Thursday, each panel put out on average 2 kwh of power. Hope that helps.
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I went with the Harbor Freight 100w system. Setup was super easy. I went with this one for now because delivery of the expandable system from Renogy was several days away. I will probably still get that one as well. One thing I don't understand is the charge controller. Even reading the manual, I don't understand. It says hold this button and you can see the voltage, and click this button to raise or lower it, but it doesn't say what it should read and why you are raising or lowering the reading. I can't find anything on the net to explain what my settings should be or why I would raise or lower the voltage. Just scratching my head. I was able to set it up to my type of battery and that is about all at this point.
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I went with the Harbor Freight 100w system. Setup was super easy. I went with this one for now because delivery of the expandable system from Renogy was several days away. I will probably still get that one as well. One thing I don't understand is the charge controller. Even reading the manual, I don't understand. It says hold this button and you can see the voltage, and click this button to raise or lower it, but it doesn't say what it should read and why you are raising or lowering the reading. I can't find anything on the net to explain what my settings should be or why I would raise or lower the voltage. Just scratching my head. I was able to set it up to my type of battery and that is about all at this point.
I would think that is a low voltage cutoff possibly. If it falls below a certain voltage it will shutoff the power to the load. Found a link https://newscrewdriver.com/2018/01/01/harbor-freight-63585-100-watt-solar-kit/ it seems to be voltage threshold for over charging and discharge.
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Figured it out, Thanks Russ!! Had to order another DC adapter cord for my CPAP, the one I got off of Amazon did not work, so I ordered the one from Resmed. Should be here by Weds. Anxious to see if it works as I hope it will.
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Been having one of those, why didn't I do this sooner moments. Two nights in a row with my CPAP running off of my Deep Cycle battery. So awesome. Solar charging the battery all day while I'm gone and nice and quiet at night. WOW, Why didn't I do this 22 months ago!!! Thanks for everyone's help and advice!!!
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Glad it's working for you. Now your just going to want to expand that solar. The bug has bitten
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Glad it's working for you. Now your just going to want to expand that solar. The bug has bitten
:chuckle: :chuckle: Already thinking about it!!!