Post by: ghosthunter on April 19, 2020, 08:25:01 PM
Well never gave it a thought. Had several new guns over the years, never really did a barrel break in.
Just shot them. Can’t say I ever had one I wasn’t happy with.
Owners manuals never had anything on barrel break in.
You tube videos seem to be pro and con.
What say you. Break in or not?
Post by: Hilltop123 on April 19, 2020, 08:28:53 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 19, 2020, 08:40:23 PM
That's totally anecdotal but there ya go
Post by: grundy53 on April 19, 2020, 08:43:12 PM
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Post by: Jonathan_S on April 19, 2020, 08:44:56 PM
I've never broke one in. Just shot them.
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Post by: actionshooter on April 19, 2020, 08:46:00 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 19, 2020, 08:54:16 PM
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 19, 2020, 09:27:31 PM
Post by: hogslayer on April 19, 2020, 10:14:31 PM
Don’t ever speed up. I believe it has to do with lapping finish. I’ll be doing the same thing on a new 300 Rum next weekend. It’s important you take velocity measurements in the beginning so you know when it speeds up. Otherwise you will be circling back around once it does.
Post by: dreadi on April 19, 2020, 10:17:19 PM
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Post by: jasnt on April 20, 2020, 07:10:14 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 20, 2020, 08:16:44 AM
Post by: Stein on April 20, 2020, 08:22:26 AM
Post by: KFhunter on April 20, 2020, 08:29:22 AM
I just shoot it and clean it a lot more than I would an older well shot in barrel, and I use copper remover
Post by: magnanimous_j on April 20, 2020, 08:46:56 AM
Post by: KFhunter on April 20, 2020, 08:49:57 AM
I suspect that breaking in a barrel is something that was a lot more important way back when, but modern manufacturing has probably removed most of the necessity.
unless its a new remington
Post by: magnanimous_j on April 20, 2020, 09:17:02 AM
I suspect that breaking in a barrel is something that was a lot more important way back when, but modern manufacturing has probably removed most of the necessity.
unless its a new remington
Very true.
What a shame. I thought the R-51 was the coolest looking pistol I'd seen in a long time. I think the general consensus in the gun community is that you'd be better off dropping one in a sock and using that as a weapon.
Post by: buckfvr on April 20, 2020, 12:13:09 PM
So barrel speed up. My way of thinking is that once your barrel is shot in and cleaned up and you experience an uptick in speed, then consider it broke in. For me at least, speed up is more noticeable with factory barrels. I do have a Benchmark barrel, custom match, and speed up was to a lesser fps than I have noticed on the last few factory barrels I paid attention to. I think the better the barrel is to start with, the faster it shoots in and picks up a bit of speed, and this is where you should collect data if you intend to load your own.
In the end, I run a snake through my barrels every 20 rounds or so and clean when they tell me to. If the gun sits for a while, I run a patch of conditioner oil through it a couple times and then pull the snake. Just make sure to clean it before firing as you will be shocked how dirty the bore is and if you wipe everything else down with a near clear light oil you will see how much gunk wipes off. Its not like cosmoline but Im sure they put a bit of preservative inside and out so they don't rust in the box before they sell.
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 20, 2020, 12:46:29 PM
Post by: Jason on April 20, 2020, 06:27:21 PM
I’m not sure if there was ever a difference in the end but I always followed what the book said. New barrels I clean after after every shot for the first 10 shots. Other than that do what makes you sleep better at night.
Post by: Bushcraft on April 20, 2020, 07:54:35 PM
Types of steel, types of bullets, heat, pressure, bullet design, chamber design, throat design, type of powder, button vs. cut vs. broach, type of rifling, rate of twist, bullet bearing surface, velocity, etc.
Some of the variables, such as throat and barrel quality and wear, are easily measured assuming you have a Hawk Eye bore scope and some very expensive test tools.
The rest of them are probably outside the realm of what 99.99% of shooters can replicate in very controlled environments. (It's a rare tester indeed who has a big-ass vice, a pile of identical barrels and ammo components, lab-grade precision reloading equipment, and an environmentally controlled 1,000 yard tunnel. :chuckle: ;) )
Bottom line...if it makes you feel better (and thereby gives you more confidence), do it. There's no harm in it IF you are cleaning it correctly. (That's a whole other thread!)
Otherwise, barrels are like tires...they are only good for so long. Just go have fun and shoot...while stopping to clean the carbon ring build-up every now and then.
Post by: jasnt on April 20, 2020, 09:08:40 PM
The problem with determining whether it's fact or fiction is that there is a seemingly endless array of variables that, in aggregate, can wildly skew one's conclusion.i couldn’t agree more
Types of steel, types of bullets, heat, pressure, bullet design, chamber design, throat design, type of powder, button vs. cut vs. broach, type of rifling, rate of twist, bullet bearing surface, velocity, etc.
Some of the variables, such as throat and barrel quality and wear, are easily measured assuming you have a Hawk Eye bore scope and some very expensive test tools.
The rest of them are probably outside the realm of what 99.99% of shooters can replicate in very controlled environments. (It's a rare tester indeed who has a big-ass vice, a pile of identical barrels and ammo components, lab-grade precision reloading equipment, and an environmentally controlled 1,000 yard tunnel. :chuckle: ;) )
Bottom line...if it makes you feel better (and thereby gives you more confidence), do it. There's no harm in it IF you are cleaning it correctly. (That's a whole other thread!)
Otherwise, barrels are like tires...they are only good for so long. Just go have fun and shoot...while stopping to clean the carbon ring build-up every now and then.
Post by: Matth on April 20, 2020, 09:16:28 PM
The problem with determining whether it's fact or fiction is that there is a seemingly endless array of variables that, in aggregate, can wildly skew one's conclusion.i couldn’t agree more
Types of steel, types of bullets, heat, pressure, bullet design, chamber design, throat design, type of powder, button vs. cut vs. broach, type of rifling, rate of twist, bullet bearing surface, velocity, etc.
Some of the variables, such as throat and barrel quality and wear, are easily measured assuming you have a Hawk Eye bore scope and some very expensive test tools.
The rest of them are probably outside the realm of what 99.99% of shooters can replicate in very controlled environments. (It's a rare tester indeed who has a big-ass vice, a pile of identical barrels and ammo components, lab-grade precision reloading equipment, and an environmentally controlled 1,000 yard tunnel. :chuckle: ;) )
Bottom line...if it makes you feel better (and thereby gives you more confidence), do it. There's no harm in it IF you are cleaning it correctly. (That's a whole other thread!)
Otherwise, barrels are like tires...they are only good for so long. Just go have fun and shoot...while stopping to clean the carbon ring build-up every now and then.
This is great. some knowledge laid upon us by folks that shoot alot more than me. Shoot the dang thing, and when it wont shoot any more get a new one.
Post by: grundy53 on April 21, 2020, 07:15:34 AM
What I meant is I've never followed a set protocol. 🤣I've never broke one in. Just shot them.
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Post by: KFhunter on April 21, 2020, 08:55:03 AM
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