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Post by: boatloader on April 25, 2020, 11:17:53 PM
Went out yesterday to a few spots around Buckley and there is nothin right now, any idea when they should start to show?I have yet to figure out what makes a log produce and what doesn't? All my spots have quite a bit of dead Alder laying around yet it's only a select few that fruit the fungus... I have noticed the fresh cut/fallen stuff doesn't seem that great. It seems to take at least a year, but this is purely anecdotal. They seem to like creeks and swamps with skunk cabbage. I end up bushwhacking a lot, and I've been bringing binoculars out on the trail. There is this one log on my property that is about to go bonkers though! And it's right next to a creek.
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Post by: boatloader on April 25, 2020, 11:19:05 PM
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Post by: boatloader on April 25, 2020, 11:21:02 PM
I happened to see this thread right before I went on a walk with my kids and found a few! Going to keep checking that spot!Yo can keeping checking it every spring and fall (usually Octoberish) for a few years at least! Enjoy and happy hunting!
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Post by: quackkiller on April 26, 2020, 07:39:38 AM
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Post by: boatloader on April 26, 2020, 11:49:19 AM
Out again 3 miles and no luck!Well shucks! I do have a park near my place in Gig Harbor that is teeming with Alder and I have yet to see any in there. Like I said earlier, mushrooms can be mysterious (part of why I like em), seemingly no rhyme or reason to it. I do all of my oyster hunting closer to the waters of Puget Sound, and haven't looked inland much. I wouldn't think Buckley would be too far in, but... I guess the proof is in the pudding. At least now when you find some, it will be that much sweeter!
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Post by: WSU on April 28, 2020, 05:36:53 AM
How do people prepare these? Sautéed in butter wasn’t great like chanterelles.
Post by: boatloader on April 28, 2020, 09:21:38 AM
I went out to a couple areas this weekend that had them in the past and found some. I sautéed a bit up to try out (they are new to me so I always start with a small amount). No ill effects but also not too impressed.I ran across a couple articles years ago that completely flipped conventional wisdom on its head and I have never turned back... Orthodoxy contends that you never soak mushrooms, some folks won't even run em under the faucet because they will get soggy like a sponge. Continuing on the experts say that when cooking they will release their water and you need high heat so it evaporates or else you're just steaming them. Well... What these adventurous people below have found is that you literally can't overcook a mushroom as long as you aren't burning it. So what is the harm in soaking mushrooms to clean them (which is about 100 times easier AND more effective than brushing) when you're just going to cook out all that water anyways? The answer is none! Then they discovered that if you essentially boil the mushrooms ( I do it in just an inch or two of water in a huge cast iron skillet) until all the water evaporates, which takes about 10 minutes (add more water throughout if you have to) the mushrooms become fully cooked and their cell structure closes up and they cease to absorb the same amount of liquids as before. NOW is when you add the butter or oil or whatever you were gonna use and sauté until GBD (golden brown delicious). But if you start off with the fat/oil right away like any normal chef will tell you the mushrooms sponge it up and never release it again giving you a soggier greasier end product. Like I said, I never turned back! I like oysters finished with butter, salt, garlic, and fresh thyme. I like their meaty texture and deep umami flavor. I have found they benefit from a longer cook opposed to a short fast saute compared to chantrelles, and I like them better than chantrelles. In my household that is about a 50/50 split on who likes which ones better. I think my whole house likes hedgehogs and shaggy parasols better than the both of em though! This was fascinating info that truly blew my mind on how much easier it is to clean, handle, cook, and eat any mushroom than most of us have been taught. Cheers!
How do people prepare these? Sautéed in butter wasn’t great like chanterelles.
https://www.thespruceeats.com/a-new-way-to-cook-mushrooms-913400
http://cookingissues.com/2009/12/21/crowded-wet-mushrooms-a-beautiful-thing/
https://www.cooksillustrated.com/articles/1856-why-you-can-t-overcook-mushrooms
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Post by: Buckewe on April 28, 2020, 09:50:29 AM
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Post by: boatloader on April 28, 2020, 10:09:57 AM
They are just starting to pop around my house.when things get going strong I can fill a 5 gallon bucket within a couple hundred feet of my back doorIt's a beautiful thing isn't it! Here the log in my backyard yesterday... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200428/36e2f068e4494bed065dbeacc344c7fc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200428/67f7445ef8489f5c63b17c1d1049caf6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200428/1a280cb8e5bbd9cd0b8d3c6ed5457af0.jpg)
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Post by: boatloader on April 28, 2020, 05:22:27 PM
So these oyster mushrooms are edible? The only mushroom hunting I’ve ever done has been for morels.Yep. They sell cultivated oyster mushrooms at fancy grocery stores and farmer's markets. They are one of the safest wild mushrooms because nothing else grows quite like they do.
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I ran across these today. I sure hope so.. ;)Looking good! Really good! Waypoint that one for next year for sure!
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Post by: boatloader on May 03, 2020, 10:36:26 AM
How do you cook these?Check post #24 of this thread... That's how I do. But whatever you do with a grocery store mushroom (agaricus bisporus) will work. They might need a little more time on the heat based on how soggy they got on the log.
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Post by: boatloader on May 04, 2020, 12:12:20 AM
Went out Oyster hunting with my three littles today. First time for all four of us. We got a fair amount, two or three gallons I think. We frequently go out for Morels, deer, or elk and come back empty handed, so it was nice to experience some success with the kids.Right on! Nothing better than seeing kids satisfied with a day in the woods. How was dinner?
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Post by: quackkiller on May 12, 2020, 08:21:29 AM
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Post by: boatloader on May 12, 2020, 11:06:53 AM
The best app for your phone is iNaturalist, and you can use that for anything you find in nature... Mushroom, plant, or animal. Just used it with my kids the other day to identify what kind of dead heron skeleton we stumbled across.
Most mushrooms you find are NOT edible or are unknown. Many of the edible ones are not tasty enough to bother. Makes it easy when your just looking for a handful of species that you can really lock onto every detail of 👍
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Post by: quackkiller on May 12, 2020, 01:45:47 PM
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Post by: quackkiller on May 12, 2020, 02:14:53 PM
Post by: cb1989 on May 12, 2020, 02:21:27 PM
So when it comes to mushrooms, the mushrooms decide when opening day is... Yesterday, they decided!
What's the most reliable way to tell them apart from angel wings (Pleurocybella porrigens) that some say are mildly toxic? The research ive done seems most reliable way is that angel wings grow on conifers and oysters grow on hardwood.
Post by: boatloader on May 12, 2020, 02:36:47 PM
He has not yet haha, you guys still eat the ones with worms in them?? I didn’t notice them until I dehydrated them... a bunch of dead ones in the bottom of the tray.... I’m not sure if there still good or not any input is greatly appreciated!If you soak em in saltwater when you get em in the house I guess that is supposed to get rid of worms and bugs. It might make dehydration take a little longer, but I don't think oysters sponge up moisture as bad as some other species do? I usually rinse em under the sink and meticulously hit em with the brush end of my mushroom knife. We've just been cooking them as we find them and they stay good in the fridge for at least 1.5 weeks. They may last longer, but with a family of 5 they haven't made it longer than that. I keep meaning to dehydrate some, but I never do 🤷🏼♂️
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Post by: boatloader on May 12, 2020, 02:44:08 PM
Yes that's what I go by too. Oysters on hardwood (I've only ever seen on Alder in the PNW) and Angel Wings on conifer. The angel wings are daintier and not as meaty. I am pretty sure the Angel Wings primarily fruit in the fall too. I'm sure you probably already read, but the only case that I'm aware of, where folks had problems was one single group in South Korea that all ate them at the same time and they all happened to have the same rare kidney condition. What sucks though is it was fatal for them.So when it comes to mushrooms, the mushrooms decide when opening day is... Yesterday, they decided!
What's the most reliable way to tell them apart from angel wings (Pleurocybella porrigens) that some say are mildly toxic? The research ive done seems most reliable way is that angel wings grow on conifers and oysters grow on hardwood.
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