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Title: historic rifle found....
Post by: backwoods_boy on April 10, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
My grandpa just sent this to me and an old friend of his wrote "This was found near my home town in Montana. . .  What a find!"

"ON APRIL 9 THIS ANCIENT MUZZLELOADER WAS FOUND STUFFED IN A HOLLOW
TREE ALONG THE YELLOWSTONE RIVER NEAR GLENDIVE. IT IS APPROX. 160
YEARS OLD. IN FANTASTIC CONDITION, PROBABLY DUE TO BEING COVERED WITH
BEAR OR BUFFALO GREASE AND STUFFED IN A HOLLOW LOG! WOW! WHAT A FIND!
SURE WOULD BE FUN TO KNOW ABOUT THE OWNER AND THE STORY OF THE GUN AND
HOW IT CAME TO BE STASHED THERE AND NEVER RETRIEVED"
 
 
Pretty cool to see this old smoke pole.
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Post by: Ray on April 10, 2009, 01:27:52 PM
Neat. I like the sight
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Post by: boneaddict on April 10, 2009, 01:29:38 PM
Very  8)
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Post by: saylean on April 10, 2009, 01:30:32 PM
antique road show!

Cool man, what a find!
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Post by: backwoods_boy on April 10, 2009, 01:32:20 PM
can you imagine what that thing is worth.
i would love to hear the story......
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Post by: whacker1 on April 10, 2009, 01:44:34 PM
I didn't realize they had cap lock in the 1850's.  Very impressive find
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Post by: oneezreiter on April 10, 2009, 01:51:25 PM
It is remarkable that it is that nice of shape.  Great find
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Post by: jackelope on April 10, 2009, 01:57:48 PM
really neat old gun.


really wierd looking person holding it...is that pat?
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Post by: satchel3006 on April 10, 2009, 03:59:38 PM
looks to be an 1853 3 band enfield. i got one just like it although mines alot newer
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Post by: 509er on April 10, 2009, 08:50:18 PM
cool
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Post by: Moose Eyes on April 11, 2009, 09:28:48 AM
I didn't realize they had cap lock in the 1850's.  Very impressive find

Here's some interesting reading about the history of muzzleloaders.

http://www.whitemuzzleloading.com/history_muzzleloading.htm (http://www.whitemuzzleloading.com/history_muzzleloading.htm)
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Post by: ihunt on April 11, 2009, 09:35:25 AM
Very cool find
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Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 11, 2009, 10:22:18 AM
Looks similar to my 1863 Peabody 45-70 cartridge falling block.  Nice find
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Post by: walt on April 11, 2009, 10:30:09 AM
Sweet. That must have been one heck of tree. :dunno:
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Post by: M_ray on April 11, 2009, 10:43:23 AM
That is so cool! I just can't get over it ... so cool! I could just sit an stare at it and wonder what kind of journey it had before being stuffed in that tree!
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Post by: Ghost1941 on April 11, 2009, 10:57:54 AM
I wish I could find stuff like that in the woods.  All I ever find is beer cans :(
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Post by: agchawk on April 11, 2009, 05:06:45 PM
Now that is a once-in-a-lifetime find! AWESOME!

I remember reading about how trappers/mountainmen and explorers during that time period used to make it a practice of hiding a spare rifle or two in secret spots around the countryside in the event that they were attacked by indians and had to make a hasty retreat from camp without their gear, etc. I wonder if this musket was one of those...hiden by some whiley old trapper who thought that the time would come when he may need to dig that thing out to defend himself or get back to safer ground.

It's pretty cool to think about just why it was there and the circumstances surrounding the firearm and it's original owner.
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Post by: jager on April 11, 2009, 07:41:48 PM
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It's pretty cool to think about just why it was there and the circumstances surrounding the firearm and it's original owner.



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Post by: BENCHLEG on April 11, 2009, 09:31:40 PM
was it loaded?
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Post by: cascademountainhunter on April 11, 2009, 09:38:29 PM
hey thats cool
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Post by: bowhunterforever on April 11, 2009, 09:45:08 PM
WOW, that is an awsome find. 8)
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Post by: madmack76 on April 23, 2009, 11:21:47 PM
they have a article about that in online field and stream
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Post by: deaddog on April 24, 2009, 12:58:59 PM
Thats about as cool as it gets, what a piece of history. :rockin:
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Post by: backwoods_boy on April 24, 2009, 01:53:34 PM
Yeah pretty cool.
someone said that there is an article about it in FS this month.
not sure havnt looked yet.
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Post by: madmack76 on April 24, 2009, 02:49:23 PM
its in there online sight
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Post by: alecvg on April 24, 2009, 07:24:33 PM
That is really cool, reminds me of a story my grandpa told, his friend was cleaning out a log jam out of a creek back in the twenty's, and found a old French Trappers Muzzleloader, so he brought it to a gun smith and asked him to fix it up for him, the guy begged my grandpa'sm friend to sell it to him, but he kept refusing, and said he jsut wanted it fixed.  So he came back a few months later, and the gun smith said he "lost it."  He never got it back.   >:(
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Post by: phishisgroovin on April 28, 2009, 06:27:31 AM
that gunsmith would have met Jesus, fast. :chuckle:
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Post by: andrew_12gauge on April 28, 2009, 08:04:47 AM
I didn't realize they had cap lock in the 1850's.  Very impressive find

they came out with the first breach loading firearms during the civil war which was in the 1860's or 70's so its not that surprising to think that they had caplocks in the 1850's still a cool find though
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Post by: whacker1 on April 28, 2009, 09:02:29 AM
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Quote from: whacker1 on April 10, 2009, 01:44:34 PM
I didn't realize they had cap lock in the 1850's.  Very impressive find


they came out with the first breach loading firearms during the civil war which was in the 1860's or 70's so its not that surprising to think that they had caplocks in the 1850's still a cool find though

Thank you for that - I don't have a good grasp on time frames of historical significance from that era.
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Post by: Pat/Rick on May 11, 2009, 09:23:35 PM
Breech loaders came out before the civil war.Look up , Ferguson Rifle. American Revolution. Invented by Major Patrick Ferguson,England.Their could be some earlier than that but I personally do not know. LIBERTY.
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Post by: M_ray on May 28, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
A little more to the story and more pics for anyone interested!

http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/gallery/hunting/2009/03/mystery-muzzleloader-found-montana
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Post by: backwoods_boy on May 29, 2009, 08:56:34 AM
thanks for that! i will send to grandpa...
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Post by: WAcoyotehunter on May 29, 2009, 09:00:49 AM
can you imagine what that thing is worth.
i would love to hear the story......
I would love to hear the stroy too!!  what a treat.
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