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Title: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: ridgefire on June 02, 2020, 07:44:50 AM
I am doing a lot of scouting right now for the up coming season and I'm finding rubs on trees that are 6"-8" thick. Would these be considered big rubs for blacktails? I know there is big bucks in the area but trying to narrow the areas down so I can set up some tree stands.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: ridgefire on June 02, 2020, 07:47:44 AM
I know the first pic is a old rub but I have found some big rubs in the same area from last season. These rubs are same area but a mile or two away.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: nwmein199 on June 02, 2020, 07:53:36 AM
I think the first picture is of an old bear peel. :dunno:
Seems too low and big of a patch missing to be a buck rub.  :twocents:


Pic of a bear peels from Saturday.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: fishngamereaper on June 02, 2020, 07:56:26 AM
Are they rubs or bear/porcupine bark strip trees.

Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: ridgefire on June 02, 2020, 07:58:23 AM
It could be but I have been finding peels as well. Up close it looks more like a rub than a peel. I could very well be wrong though.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: nwmein199 on June 02, 2020, 08:01:28 AM
I was guessing bear peels based off the size. The blacktail rubs I have seen were not nearly that big...hopefully they are buck rubs and you have some monsters in the area!!

Could you see if there are bear claw marks in the tree?
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: fishngamereaper on June 02, 2020, 08:01:53 AM
Clean edges of the bark look like a peel. I've seen blacktails rub small fir/pine/cedar sapplings but never bigger conifer trees, at least in my hunting areas. They seem to gravitate towards alder. maple and such when they rub bigger trees.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: ridgefire on June 02, 2020, 08:08:17 AM
Thanks for the replies. I have never really gotten serious about blacktail hunting so trying to figure them out. I am finding plenty of rubs in the same area on alders as well. Sorry, I am not sure how you turn the pictures the right way so you will have to look at them sideways.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: JakeLand on June 02, 2020, 08:09:48 AM
Top pics are rubs not bear peels ! Those are rubs that are used every year , put a cam
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: ridgefire on June 02, 2020, 08:14:36 AM
This is in the vicinity as well. I was thinking cougar or bear claw marks. What you think?
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: JakeLand on June 02, 2020, 08:18:19 AM
Usually cat and bear markings are 5’-6’ high normally
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: ridgefire on June 02, 2020, 08:32:42 AM
The picture with my hand in it was 3-4' off the ground.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: nwmein199 on June 02, 2020, 08:55:48 AM
Top pics are rubs not bear peels ! Those are rubs that are used every year , put a cam

 :yeah:

Listen to the guy with a monster blacktail in his avatar pic  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Griiz on June 02, 2020, 09:13:43 AM
I think first picture is buck rub. I get excited when I find 8plus inch trees rubbed.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Griiz on June 02, 2020, 09:18:30 AM
This buck was a nice three point with big eye guards. He’s at the taxidermist.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: nwmein199 on June 02, 2020, 09:28:33 AM
This buck was a nice three point with big eye guards. He’s at the taxidermist.

Apparently I have never seen a big blacktail run...never seen a tree shredded like that!

What time of year did you find those rubs and when did you get the buck? Curious if its the same day or month apart.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: ridgefire on June 02, 2020, 10:18:19 AM
Griz, do you have a picture of the buck that was making those rubs?
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: JakeLand on June 02, 2020, 12:06:44 PM
Griz, do you have a picture of the buck that was making those rubs?
hes got some studs ! (Drop tine ?)
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Tree Killer on June 02, 2020, 01:38:39 PM
Big buck rub I found years ago on a timber sale I was cutting.  Bucks love rubbing those Bull Willows (Black Willows). Quite often they'll rub the same willow multiple years if it kill the willow.

(https://i.imgur.com/5xVdYQ8.jpg)
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Flyfisher9 on June 02, 2020, 03:36:26 PM
Any hair left behind in the rubs?
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Griiz on June 02, 2020, 03:55:37 PM
In my experience mature bucks usually make rubs like that in the pre rut. Usually start finding them around 10th of October, but they will make them a little sooner and in November too. I’m referring to blacktails.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Griiz on June 02, 2020, 03:58:24 PM
My droptine buck is the most aggressive buck I have encountered. Tearing up 12” inch fir and willow trees and had rubline trails with trees rubbed every five feet for a hundred yards.

Griz, do you have a picture of the buck that was making those rubs?
hes got some studs ! (Drop tine ?)
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Griiz on June 02, 2020, 08:45:03 PM
Griz, do you have a picture of the buck that was making those rubs?
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: fishnfur on June 03, 2020, 01:11:47 PM
Nice one Griiz.

Typically, you can find tine marks outside the major rub, but I've seen bear peals where the animal left claw marks which could be mistaken for tine groves.  If the rubs are recent, there will be some hair left somewhere on the rub. 

I rarely start finding rubs before the last week of October, though I've heard others say it starts earlier, which agrees with Griiz's statement. 

Here's a bear peel:
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: dilleytech on June 03, 2020, 07:33:15 PM
Most of these pics look like bear or cat.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Alchase on June 03, 2020, 08:20:58 PM
Nice one Griiz.

Typically, you can find tine marks outside the major rub, but I've seen bear peals where the animal left claw marks which could be mistaken for tine groves.  If the rubs are recent, there will be some hair left somewhere on the rub. 

I rarely start finding rubs before the last week of October, though I've heard others say it starts earlier, which agrees with Griiz's statement. 

Here's a bear peel:


Have to agree with dilleytech, looks like blackbear too me  :dunno:
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: ridgefire on June 03, 2020, 09:59:49 PM
Beautiful buck. Thanks.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: buggy on June 07, 2020, 01:43:46 PM
Ridgefire,
I say first two pics are a buck(s) worth hunting. Third pic looks like a porcupine chew with the pattern. Fourth pic (alder) looks like elk to me. :dunno: :twocents:
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Birdguy on June 08, 2020, 07:12:01 PM
6 inch ponderosa pine tree in my moms yard in Kitsap County. Taken October 5th 2019.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Turner89 on June 29, 2020, 10:39:16 PM
You should still be able to find hair in the rubs even now. 

Always get excited when I find a good rub.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 30, 2020, 05:58:34 AM
elk?
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Turner89 on June 30, 2020, 08:32:23 PM
elk?
No, its a blacktail.   
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on June 30, 2020, 10:20:17 PM
Hopefully he comes back for year three and I can get some good trail cam pics.
Title: Re: Big blacktail rubs
Post by: Onewhohikes on July 01, 2020, 06:13:23 AM
Sorry but he's gone, I made mostly stew meat out of him
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