Post by: HAGEMANIAC on June 14, 2020, 09:26:44 PM
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Post by: ThurstonCokid on June 14, 2020, 10:27:27 PM
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Post by: fowl smacker on June 15, 2020, 04:36:07 AM
Post by: Rob on June 15, 2020, 04:58:50 AM
Very comfortable, warm on snow and much quieter. No more complaints from my peers either.
Mine weighs in at 15 ounces (0.94 lbs) and rolls to about the size of a 1 liter bottle of water. It goes with me on most day hikes for emergency purposes. LOVE IT.
They are rather spendy though. Be sure to pack a patch kit. having it deflate and not be able to repair it could be a big issue!
Post by: zwickeyman on June 15, 2020, 05:49:11 AM
a little heavier than some but quieter and cheaper
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on June 15, 2020, 05:52:24 AM
I haven’t used it yet other than in the house checking it out. I have some buddies that really like it. Something else for u to check out.
Post by: trophyhunt on June 15, 2020, 05:56:27 AM
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Post by: OltHunter on June 15, 2020, 07:51:17 AM
I went from the Thermarest Neoair XTherm to the Sea to Summit comfort plus insulated and have slept better since. The Thermarest was just too noisy for me. Comfort wise both are very comparable, I just couldn't get past the potato chip bag sound of the XTherm. If that wouldn't bother you, I'd say go either way.
Similar experience - Sea to Summit Comfort Plus is worth the weight to me. I went from a BA Q-Core, with a questionable R-rating. It was cold.
For total weight savings and insulation, XTherm is the standard. Nothing is as warm and light as this. But you give up some noise and comfort.
Comfort Plus is over twice the weight I believe, but 2 inches longer and an inch wider (for the large versions). Not sure on thickness, but i would imagine an inch or two as well.
I think it comes down to how well you sleep and how little you move.
I've heard good things with Exped, and have one of their huge ones for my cot in the wall tent, but haven't ever tried them for backpacking.
Also, can't beat Klymit Insulated Static V Sleeping Pad for the cost.
Post by: bracer40 on June 15, 2020, 08:19:30 AM
Compact and not a lot heavier than others out there...but if I was doing more than 1-3 night trips I’d save the weight and go w the xtherm.
I’ve also used the Xtherm that I borrowed from my son. It’s lighter than the Klymit, but has a mummy bag profile at the lower section and my feet fall off when I’m flopping around at night....so for comfort I vote for the Klymit
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 15, 2020, 08:28:04 AM
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Post by: TriggerMike on June 15, 2020, 08:47:07 AM
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Post by: OltHunter on June 15, 2020, 12:13:59 PM
I would not recommend it below 30-40 degrees.
The QCore Deluxe looks to be comparable to the Comfort Plus.
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on June 15, 2020, 04:14:38 PM
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on June 16, 2020, 06:08:03 AM
Its 2# for the long wide version but worth it in cold conditions .
Post by: Onewhohikes on June 16, 2020, 06:09:46 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 16, 2020, 07:13:07 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 16, 2020, 08:05:29 AM
Post by: stlusn30-06 on June 16, 2020, 09:47:02 AM
Best guidance I've gotten (via a thermarest rep) was pull out of sack (if you use) blow it up, open the deflate valve. Store flat.
Storing rolled up or compressed will compromise the strength of materials and seems over time.
My Xtherm isn't very old, but I have a 3 year old Klymit, and like a 10 year old thermarest. Nothing leaks
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 16, 2020, 11:05:12 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on June 16, 2020, 11:32:18 AM
They hang with my sleeping bags. Mine do see a lot of use in a season but I haven't had a pad for more than a season in a long time.
Do you toss and turn a lot in your sleep that you know of?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 16, 2020, 11:34:17 AM
I'm for sure a side sleeper. That's why I have to use 3"+ pads. Also my "season" is like 90+ nights so may be more use than othersThey hang with my sleeping bags. Mine do see a lot of use in a season but I haven't had a pad for more than a season in a long time.
Do you toss and turn a lot in your sleep that you know of?
Post by: ganghis on June 16, 2020, 11:39:45 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on June 16, 2020, 11:42:29 AM
I'm for sure a side sleeper. That's why I have to use 3"+ pads. Also my "season" is like 90+ nights so may be more use than othersThey hang with my sleeping bags. Mine do see a lot of use in a season but I haven't had a pad for more than a season in a long time.
Do you toss and turn a lot in your sleep that you know of?
Side sleeper as well so I use a thicker pad too. Kills my hips if I don't
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 16, 2020, 11:55:29 AM
I've been using the Thermarest Neoair XTherm. I pair it with a Big Agnes sleeping bag that has a fabric sleeve on the bottom that you can stuff the XTherm in so it doesn't move around. I've tried it with other sleeping bags and agree with others it's way too loud, esp if sharing a tent. But that sleeve keeps you from sliding off and eliminates the sound issue. I haven't had an issue with leakage yet... crossing fingers ;)you just jinx'd yourself :chuckle:
Post by: Rob on June 16, 2020, 12:31:22 PM
I'm for sure a side sleeper. That's why I have to use 3"+ pads. Also my "season" is like 90+ nights so may be more use than othersThey hang with my sleeping bags. Mine do see a lot of use in a season but I haven't had a pad for more than a season in a long time.
Do you toss and turn a lot in your sleep that you know of?
Side sleeper as well so I use a thicker pad too. Kills my hips if I don't
Easy fix for that. Just have your hip replaced like I did! problem solved.
Post by: vandeman17 on June 16, 2020, 01:17:17 PM
I'm for sure a side sleeper. That's why I have to use 3"+ pads. Also my "season" is like 90+ nights so may be more use than othersThey hang with my sleeping bags. Mine do see a lot of use in a season but I haven't had a pad for more than a season in a long time.
Do you toss and turn a lot in your sleep that you know of?
Side sleeper as well so I use a thicker pad too. Kills my hips if I don't
Easy fix for that. Just have your hip replaced like I did! problem solved.
Bionic man here I come!