Post by: trophyhunt on June 22, 2020, 03:43:57 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on June 22, 2020, 03:50:50 PM
Post by: HUNT JR on June 22, 2020, 03:55:00 PM
Post by: Buckmark on June 22, 2020, 03:55:48 PM
I have a BAR in 300 win mag with the factory boss brake and it does not kick very hard but it is also what i consider to be on the heavy side for a rifle, it is loud and blows crap when in prone :twocents:
I also have a syn stocked stainless A Bolt in 7 win mag that is ported, tames the recoil and does not seem as loud as the BAR :twocents:
Just my opinion, if one needs a brake due to recoil one should buy a smaller caliber, if recoils bothers the shooter the extras noise and flash will as well... :twocents:
Post by: Bob33 on June 22, 2020, 03:56:32 PM
Post by: BNAElkhntr on June 22, 2020, 03:57:03 PM
One thing about my browning A bolt .300 win mag rifle that affects my shot is the kick. My buddy put a brake on his .300 but I can't remember if it made a difference, but I do remember how unbelievably louder it made his rifle. Does a muzzle brake on a .300 win mag, make a big enough difference to have one installed? Will you really notice that much less kick?Have him Unscrew it them shoot have one on 300win mag recoil like 308
my 338 rem ultra mag recoils like a 300 win mag but with a helluva blast sideways
Post by: trophyhunt on June 22, 2020, 04:06:56 PM
Post by: bullfisher on June 22, 2020, 04:09:33 PM
Post by: Bob33 on June 22, 2020, 04:18:07 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 22, 2020, 04:24:10 PM
In my opinion there are better solutions to addressing a flinch than a muzzle brake. For one, many flinch as much or more from anticipation of the loud "bang" than the recoil. Adding a brake will only intensify that. :twocents:You are probably right now that I think about it, I guess it's not the punch that gets me at all, it's definitely the bang. A suppressor would probably be my solution more than anything, maybe they will come down in price someday.
Post by: huntnfmly on June 22, 2020, 04:52:32 PM
Definitely worth it.
Post by: jrebel on June 22, 2020, 05:05:10 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on June 22, 2020, 05:48:35 PM
Makes a significant enough difference that I won’t buy a magnum caliber without one. I even put one on my kids 7-08 and it is a dream to shoot. :tup:
Me too! But with the short Ruger compact barrel it is the loudest rifle Ive shot and I shoot braked Lapua, and 338-378 .
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 22, 2020, 06:05:37 PM
Post by: buckfvr on June 22, 2020, 06:10:25 PM
Have brakes on .243, 6.5, and 7mm rem mag. Love seeing the puff of dust, when that happens, and instantly knowing the shot is good.
Post by: stlusn30-06 on June 22, 2020, 06:54:44 PM
He moved so meeting up w him will be hard, my biggest problem is "pulling" my shot. I'm not a bad shot, just killed my bear at 384 yards, but just can't seem to quit jerking the trigger.
Not intending to sound a like a jerk here, this is genuinely in hopes you shoot better, but a muzzle break probably won't solve this. Do you not "pull" shots with any other caliber? Is it just the .300 win mag bruiser that causes you to move? Finally, which way are you pulling? down and to the left? up and to the right? Is it all over the place?
That said, a muzzle break will lower the amount of recoil.
Post by: NWShooter on June 22, 2020, 08:03:16 PM
Post by: jasnt on June 22, 2020, 08:19:00 PM
Post by: Bofire on June 22, 2020, 08:31:58 PM
Carl
Post by: Harbor_hunter on June 22, 2020, 08:51:46 PM
One thing about my browning A bolt .300 win mag rifle that affects my shot is the kick. My buddy put a brake on his .300 but I can't remember if it made a difference, but I do remember how unbelievably louder it made his rifle. Does a muzzle brake on a .300 win mag, make a big enough difference to have one installed? Will you really notice that much less kick?
I would put one on without question. I've got an A bolt .300 win and it packed a punch. I am not a big guy, at 165lbs. Still killed with it, but after putting the brake on it was much more enjoyable to shoot. I would catch myself jerking the trigger once in awhile. No jerking anymore.
I really do not think noise is an issue either. With muffs on at the range, it is just fine. In hunting situations, I have not had ringing ears after shooting animals. I would put one on without a doubt!
Post by: mountainman on June 22, 2020, 09:25:11 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on June 23, 2020, 06:00:43 AM
Post by: opdinkslayer on June 23, 2020, 06:34:53 AM
Post by: Sakko300wsm on June 23, 2020, 06:38:30 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 23, 2020, 06:47:41 AM
I seem to pull to the right, I tend to jerk the dang trigger no matter how long I've been hunting and shooting. I do, do better when it's an animal for some reason, normally. This last bear I killed I was shaken like a leaf on a tree for some reason, whet to take a shot and I pulled the crap out of it without actually firing the gun. I was able to calm down, breath, and made the 384 yard shot. Just tired of me pulling to the right and jerking the trigger. Not sure why, that's why I'm asking about the brake.He moved so meeting up w him will be hard, my biggest problem is "pulling" my shot. I'm not a bad shot, just killed my bear at 384 yards, but just can't seem to quit jerking the trigger.
Not intending to sound a like a jerk here, this is genuinely in hopes you shoot better, but a muzzle break probably won't solve this. Do you not "pull" shots with any other caliber? Is it just the .300 win mag bruiser that causes you to move? Finally, which way are you pulling? down and to the left? up and to the right? Is it all over the place?
That said, a muzzle break will lower the amount of recoil.
Post by: b23 on June 23, 2020, 07:18:19 AM
I seem to pull to the right, I tend to jerk the dang trigger no matter how long I've been hunting and shooting. I do, do better when it's an animal for some reason, normally. This last bear I killed I was shaken like a leaf on a tree for some reason, whet to take a shot and I pulled the crap out of it without actually firing the gun. I was able to calm down, breath, and made the 384 yard shot. Just tired of me pulling to the right and jerking the trigger. Not sure why, that's why I'm asking about the brake.
A good muzzle brake, which there are many, will do more for reducing recoil than anything else. The only real downside to a brake is they make the gun louder and they add to the overall length, but, I can't say either has ever really been a problem.
I think the only real way to work through your problem/s is to shoot more, probably even a lot more, and a muzzle brake will certainly make shooting more a more enjoyable experience.
I don't know how good your trigger is or how heavy it is but you could try a little lighter trigger pull but unless it's a dedicated bench gun I wouldn't go much lower than 2lbs.
Also, maybe try relaxing your grip a tad on your trigger hand and going with a thumb forward grip instead of wrapping it over the top. When I was younger I used to grip whatever I was shooting like my life depended on it and doing so would always cause me to roll the gun into my face so I stopped wrapping my thumb over the top and went with a thumb forward grip which naturally caused me to not put such a death grip on it. It took a little getting used to but it definitely made me a better shooter. I don't know that it'll necessarily cure your jerking problem but I've found the more relaxed I hold the gun, the better I shoot.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 23, 2020, 07:58:31 AM
:yeah: All the stuff b23 said. Also dry fire dry fire dry fire. Then dry fire some more.I seem to pull to the right, I tend to jerk the dang trigger no matter how long I've been hunting and shooting. I do, do better when it's an animal for some reason, normally. This last bear I killed I was shaken like a leaf on a tree for some reason, whet to take a shot and I pulled the crap out of it without actually firing the gun. I was able to calm down, breath, and made the 384 yard shot. Just tired of me pulling to the right and jerking the trigger. Not sure why, that's why I'm asking about the brake.
A good muzzle brake, which there are many, will do more for reducing recoil than anything else. The only real downside to a brake is they make the gun louder and they add to the overall length, but, I can't say either has ever really been a problem.
I think the only real way to work through your problem/s is to shoot more, probably even a lot more, and a muzzle brake will certainly make shooting more a more enjoyable experience.
I don't know how good your trigger is or how heavy it is but you could try a little lighter trigger pull but unless it's a dedicated bench gun I wouldn't go much lower than 2lbs.
Also, maybe try relaxing your grip a tad on your trigger hand and going with a thumb forward grip instead of wrapping it over the top. When I was younger I used to grip whatever I was shooting like my life depended on it and doing so would always cause me to roll the gun into my face so I stopped wrapping my thumb over the top and went with a thumb forward grip which naturally caused me to not put such a death grip on it. It took a little getting used to but it definitely made me a better shooter. I don't know that it'll necessarily cure your jerking problem but I've found the more relaxed I hold the gun, the better I shoot.
Post by: JohnVH on June 23, 2020, 08:01:48 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 23, 2020, 08:02:49 AM
google tinnitus :dunno:Google ear plugs....
Post by: ctwiggs1 on June 23, 2020, 08:10:18 AM
In my opinion there are better solutions to addressing a flinch than a muzzle brake. For one, many flinch as much or more from anticipation of the loud "bang" than the recoil. Adding a brake will only intensify that. :twocents:You are probably right now that I think about it, I guess it's not the punch that gets me at all, it's definitely the bang. A suppressor would probably be my solution more than anything, maybe they will come down in price someday.
A less expensive solution might just be better ear protection. A lot of folks are doing plugs under muffs now.
Post by: ctwiggs1 on June 23, 2020, 08:14:03 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 23, 2020, 08:18:10 AM
With that said, brakes on everything big and small anymore. Massive Recoil reduction and muzzle jump. Spotting hits is really important to me especially when hunting solo :twocents:
Post by: b23 on June 23, 2020, 08:25:07 AM
google tinnitus :dunno:Google ear plugs....
Thanks a lot, I just spit coffee out my nose, but I'm still LMAO, that was funny!
Post by: Limhangerslayer on June 23, 2020, 08:32:18 AM
Post by: opdinkslayer on June 23, 2020, 08:37:02 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 23, 2020, 08:39:09 AM
I agree with earplugs 100% of the time, even hunting. Brake or no brake it will damage your hearing.:yeah: it's like anything new, at first it is unnatural but practice like you play, build the muscle memory and they become second nature.
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 23, 2020, 08:44:38 AM
google tinnitus :dunno:Google ear plugs....
Thanks for the tip. After my preliminary searches, it looks like there are a few options between $.01 and $100. :tup:
Post by: b23 on June 23, 2020, 08:58:01 AM
My kids and i shoot with protection 100% of the time., no exceptions.I shoot most of my stuff, from 22lr's up, suppressed and most of them are really quiet, but even with my stuff that's hearing safe, I catch myself pushing plugs in my ears just out of habit. Every so often I'll be shooting with someone that isn't shooting suppressed and forget to pop my ear plugs back in when the touch one off. It instantly pisses me off, but I don't have anyone to blame except myself for being a dumbazz. :rolleyes:
My hearing isn't all the great anymore so you'd think I'd be less bothered by it, but I hate loud noises. I can't even mow the d*mn lawn or run my shop vac without wearing ear plugs.
Post by: fishngamereaper on June 23, 2020, 08:58:38 AM
They do help with felt recoil. Which it sounds like you've developed muscle memory for recoil so your body equates flinching to pulling the trigger. It kind of like the two for flinching game, your mind tells you its going to hurt so you automatically react.
Its fixable with dry fire like others have said, add the brake, limb saver, ear protection and you'll be fine. Add a suppressor if nothing else helps. Heavy, but fun as heck to shoot.
Post by: b23 on June 23, 2020, 09:02:47 AM
Add a suppressor if nothing else helps. Heavy, but fun as heck to shoot.:yeah: :tup:
Post by: Bob33 on June 23, 2020, 09:24:06 AM
A high powered rifle shot produces around 160 decibels. From what I’ve read the use of most muzzle brakes adds about five decibels. That may not seem like much but decibels are logarithmic. A five decibel increase is a 5 fold (500%) increase. I have a 300 Win Mag with a brake and I can clearly recall two instances where I shot it in the field while hunting and my ears rang for several days afterwards. I believe that one shot can cause permanent hearing loss. It may be small and not noticeable, but the effects are cumulative and over time add up.
I try to never shoot without hearing protection while hunting, but it does happen on occasion. For that reason I will not hunt with a gun that has a brake. I can shoot calibers that are more than powerful enough for my needs without a brake. To each his own.
Post by: trophyhunt on June 23, 2020, 09:43:51 AM
great advice,thanks. Didn't even think about my grip, I did install a 3 lb trigger, I have a 2 lb but thought it was too light. We are heading out for one last try at bear for my hunting partner this Friday and I'll try that grip on a target. Thank youI seem to pull to the right, I tend to jerk the dang trigger no matter how long I've been hunting and shooting. I do, do better when it's an animal for some reason, normally. This last bear I killed I was shaken like a leaf on a tree for some reason, whet to take a shot and I pulled the crap out of it without actually firing the gun. I was able to calm down, breath, and made the 384 yard shot. Just tired of me pulling to the right and jerking the trigger. Not sure why, that's why I'm asking about the brake.
A good muzzle brake, which there are many, will do more for reducing recoil than anything else. The only real downside to a brake is they make the gun louder and they add to the overall length, but, I can't say either has ever really been a problem.
I think the only real way to work through your problem/s is to shoot more, probably even a lot more, and a muzzle brake will certainly make shooting more a more enjoyable experience.
I don't know how good your trigger is or how heavy it is but you could try a little lighter trigger pull but unless it's a dedicated bench gun I wouldn't go much lower than 2lbs.
Also, maybe try relaxing your grip a tad on your trigger hand and going with a thumb forward grip instead of wrapping it over the top. When I was younger I used to grip whatever I was shooting like my life depended on it and doing so would always cause me to roll the gun into my face so I stopped wrapping my thumb over the top and went with a thumb forward grip which naturally caused me to not put such a death grip on it. It took a little getting used to but it definitely made me a better shooter. I don't know that it'll necessarily cure your jerking problem but I've found the more relaxed I hold the gun, the better I shoot.
Post by: b23 on June 23, 2020, 09:44:18 AM
It certainly wasn't the highest rated for recoil reduction but it still had pretty decent recoil reduction and wasn't as loud, was the Seekins ATC muzzle brake. They're pretty reasonably priced at $89 so maybe give that one a look.
Post by: magnanimous_j on June 23, 2020, 09:50:12 AM
It's important to figure out which one is troubling you, because if its noise, a brake will only make it worse and 300 win mag isn't a particularly punishing cartridge.
Post by: b23 on June 23, 2020, 09:52:24 AM
great advice,thanks. Didn't even think about my grip, I did install a 3 lb trigger, I have a 2 lb but thought it was too light. We are heading out for one last try at bear for my hunting partner this Friday and I'll try that grip on a target. Thank youI seem to pull to the right, I tend to jerk the dang trigger no matter how long I've been hunting and shooting. I do, do better when it's an animal for some reason, normally. This last bear I killed I was shaken like a leaf on a tree for some reason, whet to take a shot and I pulled the crap out of it without actually firing the gun. I was able to calm down, breath, and made the 384 yard shot. Just tired of me pulling to the right and jerking the trigger. Not sure why, that's why I'm asking about the brake.
A good muzzle brake, which there are many, will do more for reducing recoil than anything else. The only real downside to a brake is they make the gun louder and they add to the overall length, but, I can't say either has ever really been a problem.
I think the only real way to work through your problem/s is to shoot more, probably even a lot more, and a muzzle brake will certainly make shooting more a more enjoyable experience.
I don't know how good your trigger is or how heavy it is but you could try a little lighter trigger pull but unless it's a dedicated bench gun I wouldn't go much lower than 2lbs.
Also, maybe try relaxing your grip a tad on your trigger hand and going with a thumb forward grip instead of wrapping it over the top. When I was younger I used to grip whatever I was shooting like my life depended on it and doing so would always cause me to roll the gun into my face so I stopped wrapping my thumb over the top and went with a thumb forward grip which naturally caused me to not put such a death grip on it. It took a little getting used to but it definitely made me a better shooter. I don't know that it'll necessarily cure your jerking problem but I've found the more relaxed I hold the gun, the better I shoot.
A thumb forward grip, instead of wrapping over the top, will likely feel a little weird to you at first so I'd practice dry firing using it at home before you head out.
Post by: trophyhunt on June 23, 2020, 09:54:40 AM
Some time ago, I read a write up where they tested a bunch of different muzzle brakes and the ones that provided the biggest reduction in recoil, were also the loudest so like most things, it's all about trade offs.you need a gun smith to put on don't you? Or do I just thread the barrel myself? You guys are great, thanks for all the opinions. I'll be buying a new huskemaw scope to replace my older one here soon, so after this last bear trip it might be a good time to put a brake on. Wearing ear plugs while hunting is something I've never done, never even thought it would help me shoot better. But I've been taking a brand new hunter w me on this spring bear and he missed an easy shot w my gun, this trip I will bring ear plugs for him and see if that helps w the buck fever type shots. Good info guys, thanks
It certainly wasn't the highest rated for recoil reduction but it still had pretty decent recoil reduction and wasn't as loud, was the Seekins ATC muzzle brake. They're pretty reasonably priced at $89 so maybe give that one a look.
Post by: b23 on June 23, 2020, 10:15:08 AM
Some time ago, I read a write up where they tested a bunch of different muzzle brakes and the ones that provided the biggest reduction in recoil, were also the loudest so like most things, it's all about trade offs.you need a gun smith to put on don't you? Or do I just thread the barrel myself? You guys are great, thanks for all the opinions. I'll be buying a new huskemaw scope to replace my older one here soon, so after this last bear trip it might be a good time to put a brake on. Wearing ear plugs while hunting is something I've never done, never even thought it would help me shoot better. But I've been taking a brand new hunter w me on this spring bear and he missed an easy shot w my gun, this trip I will bring ear plugs for him and see if that helps w the buck fever type shots. Good info guys, thanks
It certainly wasn't the highest rated for recoil reduction but it still had pretty decent recoil reduction and wasn't as loud, was the Seekins ATC muzzle brake. They're pretty reasonably priced at $89 so maybe give that one a look.
Unless you're a machinist by trade, you'll need to have it threaded by someone.
Post by: lamrith on June 23, 2020, 10:20:06 AM
They do not make the gun "louder" as much as they change where it is loud so that it is more noticeable to the shooter and anyone standing to the sides/ just behind them. There are different designs that change where this happens as well. At the shooter it does get louder, but not louder than it was before the brake, it is just louder where people are located to notice it.
You can put a brake on yourself depending on what one you get. Obviously your barrel needs to be threaded too. If it is not then I would say take barrel and brake in to a gunsmith and they can thread and properly install it. Might be worth researching both a can and a brake, there are places out there that make a brake that is threaded to also take a can, best of both worlds...
Post by: stlusn30-06 on June 23, 2020, 10:22:43 AM
I seem to pull to the right, I tend to jerk the dang trigger no matter how long I've been hunting and shooting. I do, do better when it's an animal for some reason, normally. This last bear I killed I was shaken like a leaf on a tree for some reason, whet to take a shot and I pulled the crap out of it without actually firing the gun. I was able to calm down, breath, and made the 384 yard shot. Just tired of me pulling to the right and jerking the trigger. Not sure why, that's why I'm asking about the brake.He moved so meeting up w him will be hard, my biggest problem is "pulling" my shot. I'm not a bad shot, just killed my bear at 384 yards, but just can't seem to quit jerking the trigger.
Not intending to sound a like a jerk here, this is genuinely in hopes you shoot better, but a muzzle break probably won't solve this. Do you not "pull" shots with any other caliber? Is it just the .300 win mag bruiser that causes you to move? Finally, which way are you pulling? down and to the left? up and to the right? Is it all over the place?
That said, a muzzle break will lower the amount of recoil.
I'm no instructor by any stretch, and obviously trying to diagnose over the internet will probably lead to nothing, but normally if you are anticipating recoil you tend to push down. You are right to focus on breathing, getting yourself calmed down, working on squeezing through the pull. You may also look into your basic form. How tight you have snugged into your shoulder. How tight your cheek weld is. Where are your elbows? yada yada yada. Breathing and repetition will help calm the nerves. Working through the basics of form should help keep those shots centered.
Just my experience, but rifles, pistol, tactical, doesn't matter. It is rare that modifications, or aids will fix a problem. It might make shooting more pleasant, but consistent accuracy almost always comes down to fundamentals and practice.
Post by: fishngamereaper on June 23, 2020, 10:32:16 AM
Pushing is generally a handgun issue.
Also you generally don't flinch as much shooting off hand because your upper body can absorb the recoil better. Flinching gets worse as you go seated at a bench and into the prone position.
Post by: Reidus on June 23, 2020, 10:45:22 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 23, 2020, 11:06:44 AM
Post by: jasnt on June 23, 2020, 12:27:05 PM
Post by: huntnfmly on June 23, 2020, 12:31:55 PM
Post by: huntnfmly on June 23, 2020, 12:33:57 PM
Given to me by another member on here
Post by: jasnt on June 23, 2020, 12:37:21 PM
Post by: huntnfmly on June 23, 2020, 12:39:20 PM
Looks like all they need from you is the measurement at end of barrel and then 1 inch in on barrel and measure
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 23, 2020, 01:09:08 PM
Post by: Tbar on June 23, 2020, 01:20:34 PM
:tup: Good gunsmith closest to Bonney lake....... And GO!Is he still in business? I have one of his and am very happy.
Palazzo Precision
26921 164TH AVE SE COVINGTON, WA 98042
(253) 631-3659
Post by: Crunchy on June 23, 2020, 01:36:23 PM
:tup: Good gunsmith closest to Bonney lake....... And GO!Is he still in business? I have one of his and am very happy.
Palazzo Precision
26921 164TH AVE SE COVINGTON, WA 98042
(253) 631-3659
He did some work for me about 8-10 years ago. He was long in the tooth then. Did good work, but he has to be at least 80 years old by now. Hope he is doing well.
Post by: trophyhunt on June 23, 2020, 01:38:49 PM
i just read his reviews and I'm not sure what to think, his eye sight was brought up.:tup: Good gunsmith closest to Bonney lake....... And GO!Is he still in business? I have one of his and am very happy.
Palazzo Precision
26921 164TH AVE SE COVINGTON, WA 98042
(253) 631-3659
He did some work for me about 8-10 years ago. He was long in the tooth then. Did good work, but he has to be at least 80 years old by now. Hope he is doing well.
Post by: stlusn30-06 on June 23, 2020, 01:53:07 PM
i just read his reviews and I'm not sure what to think, his eye sight was brought up.:tup: Good gunsmith closest to Bonney lake....... And GO!Is he still in business? I have one of his and am very happy.
Palazzo Precision
26921 164TH AVE SE COVINGTON, WA 98042
(253) 631-3659
He did some work for me about 8-10 years ago. He was long in the tooth then. Did good work, but he has to be at least 80 years old by now. Hope he is doing well.
No that direction, but Ed La Pour in Bremerton does good work. Last I had him work on something, he was down his right hand man, and it took a while to get my stuff back. But he def know what he's doing.
Post by: huntnfmly on June 23, 2020, 01:58:38 PM
But he's right off hyw 18
Post by: Bob33 on June 23, 2020, 02:05:09 PM
https://waguns.org/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=59844&start=15 (https://waguns.org/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=59844&start=15)
Post by: hogslayer on June 23, 2020, 03:11:05 PM
Post by: konradcountry on June 23, 2020, 08:26:35 PM
They do not make the gun "louder" as much as they change where it is loud so that it is more noticeable to the shooter and anyone standing to the sides/ just behind them.
That's what louder is.
Bigger sound waves hitting your ears.
Post by: mountainman on June 23, 2020, 09:26:27 PM
Hence the term "louder"They do not make the gun "louder" as much as they change where it is loud so that it is more noticeable to the shooter and anyone standing to the sides/ just behind them.
That's what louder is.
Bigger sound waves hitting your ears.
Post by: stlusn30-06 on August 10, 2020, 10:01:53 AM
I'm a big fan of the mbm 4 port beast brakes. That would be my recommendation. That or an apa Lil *censored* though I feel the beast is a more effective brake. Order one up and have a smith spin it on. As I stated before, Practice like you play. Part of the shooting drills I have my kids do involves putting in their ear protection. Its second nature to them and they don't even give it a second thought.
Karl, any experience running the titanium versions? Steel is tough to find.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 10, 2020, 10:51:16 AM
I've got a titanium on my wsm. Work great and a good weight savings if you are weight concius .I'm a big fan of the mbm 4 port beast brakes. That would be my recommendation. That or an apa Lil *censored* though I feel the beast is a more effective brake. Order one up and have a smith spin it on. As I stated before, Practice like you play. Part of the shooting drills I have my kids do involves putting in their ear protection. Its second nature to them and they don't even give it a second thought.
Karl, any experience running the titanium versions? Steel is tough to find.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 10, 2020, 11:02:46 AM
Post by: buckfvr on August 10, 2020, 11:15:16 AM
i just read his reviews and I'm not sure what to think, his eye sight was brought up.:tup: Good gunsmith closest to Bonney lake....... And GO!Is he still in business? I have one of his and am very happy.
Palazzo Precision
26921 164TH AVE SE COVINGTON, WA 98042
(253) 631-3659
He did some work for me about 8-10 years ago. He was long in the tooth then. Did good work, but he has to be at least 80 years old by now. Hope he is doing well.
Mike was the best when we were all using his services back in the mid 80s if that tells ya anything.