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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: 257wbymagkiller on July 04, 2020, 09:45:13 AM

Title: Poachers scoping out private land in graham.
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 04, 2020, 09:45:13 AM: Have been hearing a few of the land owners around me saying a guy in a new Toyota Tundra has been coming up to them and talking to them about the elk he has been watching on there land. They said he seemed off and something didn’t seem right about the guy. One of the land owners sons said that he has been caught before in a possible poaching situation. Was wondering if anyone has heard or had this happen to them.
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Post by: h20hunter on July 04, 2020, 09:51:35 AM: Graham....hmmm...sounds familiar for sooooome reason.
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 04, 2020, 09:53:45 AM: Right. I thought it did to me to thought there was a topic last year or the before but couldn’t find it.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on July 04, 2020, 09:54:03 AM: :chuckle: He's not a poacher. He guides poaching parties!
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 04, 2020, 10:01:41 AM: :chuckle: A poaching party hmmmm doesn’t sound good. I’ve heard of a so called outfitter out this way that seems quite shady also.
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Post by: elkrack on July 04, 2020, 10:29:21 AM: He’s back🤣

Just point him towards NW trek
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 04, 2020, 10:37:26 AM: That’s a good one there 😂 well I guess all I can do at the moment is hang more signs and hope for the best.
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Post by: duckmen1 on July 04, 2020, 11:24:29 AM: There are actually 2 different " Guide Services" in the area. Can't stand either one of them from personal experiences and or encounters with them. I've got some stories thats for sure. Nothing good comes from these clowns. Wouldn't surprise me of the ones in question to the OP being these clowns.
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 04, 2020, 12:06:00 PM: :yeah: I hung some signs up and will be on the look out. I hope nothing comes of it but it sounded like they had all ready been trespassing watching the animals from the sound of it.
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Post by: Igor on July 04, 2020, 01:23:58 PM: Quote from: 257wbymagkiller on July 04, 2020, 12:06:00 PM
:yeah: I hung some signs up and will be on the look out. I hope nothing comes of it but it sounded like they had all ready been trespassing watching the animals from the sound of it.

Do you have any spots you could put up some game cameras ?
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Post by: Bill W on July 04, 2020, 01:36:15 PM: notify the local WDFW agent so he can keep tabs on him before the season..... or possibly a sting operation by acting like a prospective client.
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 04, 2020, 10:49:02 PM: Yeah I have cameras up now and am adding a few to the property and a few of the land owners around me are as well. A sting op isn’t a bad idea. Never thought of that
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Post by: huntnphool on July 04, 2020, 11:06:37 PM: Maybe he’s just scouting for his buddies next video shoot this fall. :chuckle:
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Post by: hollymaster on July 04, 2020, 11:26:23 PM: Quote from: huntnphool on July 04, 2020, 11:06:37 PM
Maybe he’s just scouting for his buddies next video shoot this fall. :chuckle:
Beat me too it. :chuckle:
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 04, 2020, 11:39:13 PM: Hahahaha I had to know that one was coming but on a serious note. Hoping that this problem doesn’t continue
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Post by: emac on July 05, 2020, 12:47:31 AM: I don't think his buddy is videotaping anything anymore

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Title: Re: Poachers scoping out private land in graham.
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 05, 2020, 11:25:09 AM: I e been doing some research and it looks like this guy or guys have several hunts booked here in graham. Hopefully it’s all false and none took t his guys BS
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Post by: huntnfmly on July 05, 2020, 11:34:14 AM: What b.s.? That there's big bulls in that area and that he has some leases you can hunt?
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 05, 2020, 11:38:51 AM: Well if done properly than yes you are correct. But what I was told was he told the land owner next to me was that last year he leased and hunted land and told him where it was and was a lie as we both know the land owner and contacted him and he said no one was supposed to be hunting the land. The pictures were of his land so he has been watching and implying that it’s he’s lease. Seems odd is why I added the BS part and from the “ off “ feeling they got from him
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Post by: huntnfmly on July 05, 2020, 01:29:49 PM: 10-4 I gotcha.If he's lying about some of the property saying he has leases to but doesn't just to get clients is b.s. and not right as for the off feeling I've heard that a few different times
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 05, 2020, 01:34:23 PM: Yeah one of the land owners is an older gentleman that we all look after and has been taken advantage of before and hate to see that. I just hope none of this is the case of what’s going on. Went to sportsman’s today and found one camera at a decent deal to give to the land owner. But dam they were mostly sold out. Everything in the store from backpacks to leashes to cameras was wiped out
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Post by: jstone on July 05, 2020, 03:02:55 PM: One of my co workers lives out there and has had run ins with a fella. Try’s to get onto his land and land around him. Tells me he patrols the roads in the mornings. He also thinks that someone is flying a plane around to find the elk??
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 05, 2020, 03:27:19 PM: Msg me a description of the plane if he has one I’ve noticed one flying pretty low lately that seems out of place for the usual that fly over
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Post by: jstone on July 05, 2020, 03:31:57 PM: I will find out tomorrow
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Post by: Alchase on July 05, 2020, 06:12:54 PM: I are we beating around the bush with these people :dunno:
If you have stories of unethical behavior post them up!
I am sick of everyone treating scumbags with kid gloves, they need to be outed so everyone know these businesses are ripoffs. :bash:
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Post by: jstone on July 05, 2020, 06:22:51 PM: Yes I agree. I have heard about one of these guys for years and he keeps doing the same thing? How does it keep going on? :dunno:
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Post by: HntnFsh on July 05, 2020, 06:26:38 PM: Quote from: 257wbymagkiller on July 05, 2020, 03:27:19 PM
Msg me a description of the plane if he has one I’ve noticed one flying pretty low lately that seems out of place for the usual that fly over

If you can see the tail number its pretty easy to look up the owner.
Title: Re: Poachers scoping out private land in graham.
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 05, 2020, 07:34:58 PM: Quote from: Alchase on July 05, 2020, 06:12:54 PM
I are we beating around the bush with these people :dunno:
If you have stories of unethical behavior post them up!
I am sick of everyone treating scumbags with kid gloves, they need to be outed so everyone know these businesses are ripoffs. :bash:

I’m not trying to beat around the bush. I just didn’t want to go out spewing names and end up wrong. I was wanting to know if more people on here have had this issue and was the same person so I can maybe gather a better picture of what’s really going on and contact authorities and come to them with proof. As several land owners have now put cameras up specifically to catch a plate number as well as I have also. I just wanted to go about this right. I don’t want an all out interweb attack ya know just facts and proof. As far as how it keeps going I have no idea. People can be pretty tricky especially with this stuff.
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Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 14, 2020, 06:06:34 PM: Don't know about poaching, but there is a post about some nice bulls in the Graham area by an "outfitter" on FB.
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Post by: TooTallMike on July 14, 2020, 08:13:52 PM: Quote from: 257wbymagkiller on July 05, 2020, 01:34:23 PM
Yeah one of the land owners is an older gentleman that we all look after and has been taken advantage of before and hate to see that. I just hope none of this is the case of what’s going on. Went to sportsman’s today and found one camera at a decent deal to give to the land owner. But dam they were mostly sold out. Everything in the store from backpacks to leashes to cameras was wiped out

I have a game camera I can offer up for him
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Post by: cryder on July 14, 2020, 08:35:21 PM: Don't think the elk are the only interest of smooth crooks , creeps n criminals , ide start worrying about my ammo stock and get the motion detectors up to date , and feed the dog appreciate your niebors and communicate and trade fone numbers perhaps , good luck
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 14, 2020, 08:36:52 PM: It has been pretty quiet the last few days except for someone just went and vandalized his heavy equipment as well as decided that they could dump what I assume is a stolen boat. >:(
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Post by: huntnphool on July 14, 2020, 11:00:54 PM: Quote from: 257wbymagkiller on July 14, 2020, 08:36:52 PM
It has been pretty quiet the last few days except for someone just went and vandalized his heavy equipment as well as decided that they could dump what I assume is a stolen boat. >:(

Well of course, he likely checks in on this site! ;)
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 15, 2020, 05:18:21 AM: :chuckle: I couldn’t help but laugh at that last comment. Picture it hmm I’ll check my spot and dump the old boat haha. Unfortunately it’s the world we live in. Not saying it is the guy that talked to the land owner.
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Post by: Furee65 on July 15, 2020, 07:15:07 AM: My brother has some land directly across from the landfill and he has had people sneaking back the last few years. We are definitely going to be setting up a few cameras back there to see if we can catch them. We did also notice a plane last year flying suspiciously low in the general area possibly scouting the elk out.
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Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 15, 2020, 11:24:13 AM: Unfortunately the area seems to be getting worse it had gotten a lot better in over the last 10 years from what it used to be but slowly getting worse again. Checked the cameras on my place for foot traffic and nothing. One of the land owners next to me got a couple of people trespassing on his cameras.
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Post by: kyle dillehay on August 13, 2020, 10:49:27 PM: Last week I had somebody flying suspiciously low and slow over my hunting property in Graham. It was an older looking, light tan plane, couldn't see any tail markings or numbers.
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Post by: sidexside on August 30, 2020, 08:42:01 PM: Not that there aren't poachers and scumbags around, but the planes could very easily just be flying low because they're close to the kapowsin Airport or they're just admiring elk. Trespassing is a serious problem out in the area. Ive chased plenty off my place, but not everyone has bad intentions