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Title: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: 724wd on July 07, 2020, 09:35:20 PM
Got a pile of cabelas gift cards and want to buy a pistol. Living in Spokane, the post falls cabelas is the closest by far. Anyone done this? I believe it will have to be transferred to a dealer in WA, yes? Do they have a preferred dealer they work with?
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: follow maggie on July 08, 2020, 08:35:01 PM
I think it’s pretty simple, theyll just send it to an ffl in Washington. I’d bet they have one or two they work with.
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: Bill W on July 08, 2020, 08:46:09 PM
I see increased costs.
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: 724wd on July 09, 2020, 09:18:04 AM
I see increased costs.

I don’t see a way around Washington’s extra fees.
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: buglebrush on July 09, 2020, 09:21:28 AM
Got a pile of cabelas gift cards and want to buy a pistol. Living in Spokane, the post falls cabelas is the closest by far. Anyone done this? I believe it will have to be transferred to a dealer in WA, yes? Do they have a preferred dealer they work with?

A guy at the gun counter in Post Falls claimed they were setting up an FFL right close on the WA side.  Don't know if that's true  :dunno:
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 09, 2020, 09:33:38 AM
I bought one in that cabelas a few years ago with points. I think i had to pay $20 transfer at the wa ffl, but i cant remember where i paid tax.
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: Bill W on July 09, 2020, 10:34:13 AM
I see increased costs.

I don’t see a way around Washington’s extra fees.

The extra fees I see are a transfer fee from Idaho store to some place in WA and a transaction fee for processing in WA.
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: TriggerMike on July 09, 2020, 10:42:05 AM
I don't understand the law requiring that a gun purchased in Idaho by a WA resident must be sent to an FFL in WA. Does the State of Washington own its citizens? Why does it matter where an American buys a gun in the US?
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: Stein on July 09, 2020, 10:46:31 AM
I don't understand the law requiring that a gun purchased in Idaho by a WA resident must be sent to an FFL in WA. Does the State of Washington own its citizens? Why does it matter where an American buys a gun in the US?

It's not a WA law, it's federal.

From the ATF:

Quote
Generally, for a person to lawfully
transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a
Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then
receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background
check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: TriggerMike on July 09, 2020, 10:48:23 AM
I don't understand the law requiring that a gun purchased in Idaho by a WA resident must be sent to an FFL in WA. Does the State of Washington own its citizens? Why does it matter where an American buys a gun in the US?

It's not a WA law, it's federal.

From the ATF:

Quote
Generally, for a person to lawfully
transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a
Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then
receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background
check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html

Ah roger that. Thanks for clarifying. This law makes even less sense to me now since the background check is federal  :dunno:
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 09, 2020, 11:52:38 AM
I dont know if they will charge to do a transfer but you will probably have a transfer or shipping charge from them. A transfer fee from the ffl doing your paperwork and dont forget tax coming into washington.
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: 724wd on July 09, 2020, 12:09:41 PM
Even with the transfer fees and everything, still cheaper than driving twice to the closest Washington Cabela’s, win this one is so close.
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: Bill W on July 09, 2020, 12:15:09 PM
I think you will find that you can't do the buy in Idaho.  WA state dealers can only sell to state residents and I would bet the rules are reciprocal which would mean that Idaho dealers can only sell to Idaho residents.
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: BigGoonTuna on July 09, 2020, 12:51:27 PM
I think that’s a national thing. You can’t legally buy a handgun in any state you are not a resident of. It has to be shipped to an ffl in your home state.

Long guns are generally not a problem to buy out of state, except for the headaches caused by 1639.
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: 724wd on July 09, 2020, 01:15:22 PM
I think you will find that you can't do the buy in Idaho.  WA state dealers can only sell to state residents and I would bet the rules are reciprocal which would mean that Idaho dealers can only sell to Idaho residents.

It just Hass to be shipped to a Washington FFL. You can buy pistols online from any state as long as they’re shipped to an in-state FFL
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: Dadofive on July 09, 2020, 01:31:16 PM
It's basically on the state line. They could open a FFL outside the back door. I bought a handgun there and picked it up at another Cabela's for free when I was traveling across the state
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: 724wd on July 10, 2020, 08:09:24 AM
Here's a tip for you all... before waiting an hour to see a clerk at the gun counter (they only deal with one client at a time), make sure your drivers license is up to date  :bash:

With all this covid stuff and the DMV shut down, i've not renewed my license after my birthday, wanting to do the enhanced license and get it over with. I know the deadline has been extended but didn't want to pay twice, but now my sister tells me they only charge you the difference. Lesson learned!
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: TriggerMike on July 10, 2020, 08:44:53 AM
I think that’s a national thing. You can’t legally buy a handgun in any state you are not a resident of. It has to be shipped to an ffl in your home state.

Long guns are generally not a problem to buy out of state, except for the headaches caused by 1639.

What's the process for buying a rifle in Idaho? Walk out same day like it used to be in WA? I made a point to buy all my guns before any of these psycho laws were made so I'm out of touch with what I-1639 entails.
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: bearpaw on July 10, 2020, 09:31:58 AM
Long guns are generally not a problem to buy out of state, except for the headaches caused by 1639.

Very true. I have been a resident of WA, I have purchased rifles in WI, UT, ID, and New Zealand, there was never an issue until I-1939. I tried to purchase a rifle in UT after I-1639 passed, they wouldn't sell it to me, they said I-1639 prevented a WA resident from purchasing rifles in UT. They did say that if I owned a home in Idaho under federal firearms laws I would be considered a dual resident and able to purchase as an Idaho resident. I had to call the county courthouse in the Idaho county where I have a home to send the tax ID number of my ID property. I was only able to purchase the rifle because I qualified as an Idaho resident under firearm laws, it was ok'd by NICS.

So you may have trouble trying to purchase a firearm in any state because you are a WA resident unless you own home/property in another state, in which case you apparently would be considered a dual resident and able to purchase as a resident of the other state.




Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: Bob33 on July 10, 2020, 09:54:55 AM
Long guns: https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.122 (https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.122)

RCW 9.41.122

Out-of-state purchasing.

Residents of Washington may purchase rifles and shotguns in a state other than Washington: PROVIDED, That such residents conform to the applicable provisions of the federal Gun Control Act of 1968, Title IV, Pub. L. 90-351 as administered by the United States secretary of the treasury: AND PROVIDED FURTHER, That such residents are eligible to purchase or possess such weapons in Washington and in the state in which such purchase is made: AND PROVIDED FURTHER, That when any part of the transaction takes place in Washington , including, but not limited to, internet sales, such residents are subject to the procedures and background checks required by this chapter.
Title: Re: Buying a pistol in Idaho
Post by: dilleytech on July 13, 2020, 11:14:44 AM
When I buy a pistol in Oregon o pay to have it sent to the wa ffl they deal with. Then I pay the background check in wa and I also then have to pay tax on the weapon. Figure another 150$ once you go to pick it up in washing. And now expect to wait another week for mental health background check.. things are getting worse.
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