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Title: commissioner of public lands
Post by: spin05 on July 17, 2020, 03:01:27 AM
so who is the one to pick for us hunter and fishers????
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: follow maggie on July 17, 2020, 08:21:13 PM
Definitely not Hillary Franz.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on July 17, 2020, 08:47:22 PM
I have not seen any issues with Franz.  DNR is still working on fires and logging, access is still good and there hasn't been any talk about liquidations or public ground.  She has my vote this year.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Lucky1 on July 17, 2020, 10:11:08 PM
Sue Kuehl Pederson is a better choice in my opinion.

TVW Voter Guide:  https://www.tvw.org/watch/?eventID=2020061101

Contact Information
Phone: 253-359-3022
Email: Sue@CitizensForSue.com
Website: CitizensForSue.com

Elected Experience
Former Chair, Grays Harbor Republican Party

Other Professional Experience
Fisheries Biologist, UW, NOAA Fisheries, Army Corps of Engineers (WA, OR, AK), WA Dept
Fish and Wildlife, King County DNR. Power Manager, Grays Harbor PUD; Senior Power
Analyst, Seattle City Light; Senior Environmental Analyst, Seattle City Light; Research
Scientist/Publications Manager, BioSonics, Inc.

Education
Master’s Degree in Public Administration, University of Washington; Bachelor of Science
Degree in Biology (minors in Chemistry and German), Western Washington University.

Community Service
Board Member, Small Faces Child Development Center; Board Member, Ghana Together;
Board Member, Commencement Bay Rowing Club (youth program).

Statement
Our public lands have been ravaged by natural disasters including tree infestations and forest
fires. They’ve also been damaged by a man-made disaster: state managers that have focused
on serving special interest groups instead of providing for taxpayers, school districts, and
outdoor recreational enthusiasts.

No more policy-by-press-conference. No more angling for higher political office. It’s time for new
leadership.

Sue Kuehl Pederson is running to bring that new leadership to DNR, the agency responsible for
managing our state’s 3 million acres of trust land.

Informed by a lifetime of managing natural resources, Sue will work to ensure that Washington’s
working forests continue to provide a steady, reliable stream of income for our public schools.
We’ll do this by adopting proven forest management techniques that reduce disease and excess
fuel loads in our forests, which accelerate devastating forest fires. Sue will use her experience
as a UW and NOAA fisheries and habitat biologist to strike the right balance between protecting
wildlife and protecting Washington’s forest economy.

Raised in rural Washington, Sue has a distinguished career in natural resource management,
including service as a regulatory liaison for a major hydropower construction project. She has
raised two adult children and survived breast cancer.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Oh Mah on July 18, 2020, 12:53:10 AM
I have not seen any issues with Franz.  DNR is still working on fires and logging, access is still good and there hasn't been any talk about liquidations or public ground.  She has my vote this year.
Personally i think Franz has done just fine and she seems to be an honest person.Shes got my vote.  :tup:
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: bigtex on July 18, 2020, 01:01:56 AM
I have not seen any issues with Franz.  DNR is still working on fires and logging, access is still good and there hasn't been any talk about liquidations or public ground.  She has my vote this year.
:yeah:

Some people see the D behind her name and are automatically turned off. But honestly, the public and DNR employees haven't seen a difference between her and previous Public Lands Commissioners who had a R behind their names. Honestly, in current times the biggest task/role the Commissioner has now has to do with wildland fire management (on state lands and state fire protected lands) than anything else.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: huntnphool on July 18, 2020, 01:07:08 AM
I have not seen any issues with Franz.  DNR is still working on fires and logging, access is still good and there hasn't been any talk about liquidations or public ground.  She has my vote this year.
:yeah:

Some people see the D behind her name and are automatically turned off. But honestly, the public and DNR employees haven't seen a difference between her and previous Public Lands Commissioners who had a R behind their names. Honestly, in current times the biggest task/role the Commissioner has now has to do with wildland fire management (on state lands and state fire protected lands) than anything else.

 Nice deflection! :chuckle:

 Rather than point out positive attributes and examples to vote for her, a typical liberal tactic of “what’s wrong with the other guy”! :chuckle:
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: bigtex on July 18, 2020, 01:26:19 AM


I have not seen any issues with Franz.  DNR is still working on fires and logging, access is still good and there hasn't been any talk about liquidations or public ground.  She has my vote this year.
:yeah:

Some people see the D behind her name and are automatically turned off. But honestly, the public and DNR employees haven't seen a difference between her and previous Public Lands Commissioners who had a R behind their names. Honestly, in current times the biggest task/role the Commissioner has now has to do with wildland fire management (on state lands and state fire protected lands) than anything else.
Nice deflection! :chuckle:

 Rather than point out positive attributes and examples to vote for her, a typical liberal tactic of “what’s wrong with the other guy”! :chuckle:
Just love attacking me don't ya? And if you actually knew me you'd know I'm not a liberal. Amazing how your first post on this thread wasn't to give your view on who would make a good PLC but rather attack bigtex. Bravo.

You want a positive attribute? I'll state what I already stated. People haven't seen a difference between Franz (yes she's a scary Democrat) and previous PLCs who were Republicans. There's your positive attribute from me, again.

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Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 18, 2020, 06:50:36 AM
I certainly know her name, she makes sure it's on every webpage she can possibly get it on. That said, she seems to have done fine with the role to this point.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Bone collector 13 on July 18, 2020, 07:07:56 AM
I have not seen any issues with Franz.  DNR is still working on fires and logging, access is still good and there hasn't been any talk about liquidations or public ground.  She has my vote this year.
:yeah:

Some people see the D behind her name and are automatically turned off. But honestly, the public and DNR employees haven't seen a difference between her and previous Public Lands Commissioners who had a R behind their names. Honestly, in current times the biggest task/role the Commissioner has now has to do with wildland fire management (on state lands and state fire protected lands) than anything else.


That’s interesting being a DNR employee we all support Hilary regardless of political alignment.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: ne kid on July 18, 2020, 07:33:03 AM
I myself am not happy with this state in general on a lot of issues so it makes me feel better to not vote for the incumbent in any statewide election. Makes it really easy.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: BearCreekCookBook on July 18, 2020, 08:27:24 AM
All Franz does is fear monger about forest fires, complaining of droughts in January. The lack of forest fires is a major reason why our forests are so unhealthy. She also does nothing to push back against aerial spraying of herbicides which kills all the deer browse and leads to monocropping pine trees. Let’s also not forget she locked the public out of all DNR lands the entire month of April. Voting for incumbent democrats is why this state is in the sorry shape it is.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: furbearer365 on July 18, 2020, 09:28:25 AM
Sue Kuehl Pederson is a better choice in my opinion.

TVW Voter Guide:  https://www.tvw.org/watch/?eventID=2020061101

Contact Information
Phone: 253-359-3022
Email: Sue@CitizensForSue.com
Website: CitizensForSue.com

Elected Experience
Former Chair, Grays Harbor Republican Party

Other Professional Experience
Fisheries Biologist, UW, NOAA Fisheries, Army Corps of Engineers (WA, OR, AK), WA Dept
Fish and Wildlife, King County DNR. Power Manager, Grays Harbor PUD; Senior Power
Analyst, Seattle City Light; Senior Environmental Analyst, Seattle City Light; Research
Scientist/Publications Manager, BioSonics, Inc.

Education
Master’s Degree in Public Administration, University of Washington; Bachelor of Science
Degree in Biology (minors in Chemistry and German), Western Washington University.

Community Service
Board Member, Small Faces Child Development Center; Board Member, Ghana Together;
Board Member, Commencement Bay Rowing Club (youth program).

Statement
Our public lands have been ravaged by natural disasters including tree infestations and forest
fires. They’ve also been damaged by a man-made disaster: state managers that have focused
on serving special interest groups instead of providing for taxpayers, school districts, and
outdoor recreational enthusiasts.

No more policy-by-press-conference. No more angling for higher political office. It’s time for new
leadership.

Sue Kuehl Pederson is running to bring that new leadership to DNR, the agency responsible for
managing our state’s 3 million acres of trust land.

Informed by a lifetime of managing natural resources, Sue will work to ensure that Washington’s
working forests continue to provide a steady, reliable stream of income for our public schools.
We’ll do this by adopting proven forest management techniques that reduce disease and excess
fuel loads in our forests, which accelerate devastating forest fires. Sue will use her experience
as a UW and NOAA fisheries and habitat biologist to strike the right balance between protecting
wildlife and protecting Washington’s forest economy.

Raised in rural Washington, Sue has a distinguished career in natural resource management,
including service as a regulatory liaison for a major hydropower construction project. She has
raised two adult children and survived breast cancer.




 :tup:
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 18, 2020, 09:33:36 AM
All Franz does is fear monger about forest fires, complaining of droughts in January. The lack of forest fires is a major reason why our forests are so unhealthy. She also does nothing to push back against aerial spraying of herbicides which kills all the deer browse and leads to monocropping pine trees. Let’s also not forget she locked the public out of all DNR lands the entire month of April. Voting for incumbent democrats is why this state is in the sorry shape it is.

Spraying or no spraying, a private landowner should be able to grow the trees they see fit. If a conifer plantation is what they want to manage their land for so be it.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: BearCreekCookBook on July 18, 2020, 09:39:47 AM
All Franz does is fear monger about forest fires, complaining of droughts in January. The lack of forest fires is a major reason why our forests are so unhealthy. She also does nothing to push back against aerial spraying of herbicides which kills all the deer browse and leads to monocropping pine trees. Let’s also not forget she locked the public out of all DNR lands the entire month of April. Voting for incumbent democrats is why this state is in the sorry shape it is.

Spraying or no spraying, a private landowner should be able to grow the trees they see fit. If a conifer plantation is what they want to manage their land for so be it.

The DNR is not a private land owner and they spray too
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 18, 2020, 09:51:20 AM
🤔
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 18, 2020, 10:00:01 AM
Yeah they do, not in an amount I would consider significant. So not a regulatory change to washington firest practices, just a limitation on spraying of public ground is what you are after?
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: BearCreekCookBook on July 18, 2020, 10:25:20 AM
I’m just tired of people like Hilary virtue signaling about “climate change” and forest fires when they continue to take actions to perpetuate poor forest health. Deer need food to thrive and killing all the under brush and broad leaf trees leads to the expansive evergreen dead zones that are basically devoid of wildlife. I am mainly speaking about what they’re doing on the west side of the mountains, I find these signs at nearly all new cuts over here. They do it during the summer when most people aren’t out in the logging areas.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 18, 2020, 10:36:18 AM
I’m just tired of people like Hilary virtue signaling about “climate change” and forest fires when they continue to take actions to perpetuate poor forest health. Deer need food to thrive and killing all the under brush and broad leaf trees leads to the expansive evergreen dead zones that are basically devoid of wildlife. I am mainly speaking about what they’re doing on the west side of the mountains, I find these signs at nearly all new cuts over here. They do it during the summer when most people aren’t out in the logging areas.
:yeah:
And when they talk about salmon and all they are doing with silt barriers/culvert removal....and then spray off the deciduous plants in favor of the evergreen-green deserts.  :dunno:
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Lucky1 on July 18, 2020, 10:37:20 AM
It was totally ridiculous that they locked us out of our state lands because of a virus.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: buckfvr on July 18, 2020, 10:42:14 AM
I’m just tired of people like Hilary virtue signaling about “climate change” and forest fires when they continue to take actions to perpetuate poor forest health. Deer need food to thrive and killing all the under brush and broad leaf trees leads to the expansive evergreen dead zones that are basically devoid of wildlife. I am mainly speaking about what they’re doing on the west side of the mountains, I find these signs at nearly all new cuts over here. They do it during the summer when most people aren’t out in the logging areas.

That is a constant in n.e.wa., also.  Who owns investment portfolios of the major timber companies would probably shock us all, but its about deleting vegetation that competes with the timber companies profits.  A lot like monsanto, big pharm, etc.  Huge voice from the timber industry.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 18, 2020, 10:43:00 AM
I hear what your saying, and the hunter in me agrees. Realistically though regardless of who is plc, broadcast chemical treatments, aerial or hand application, are not going anywhere until alternative veg control methods can compete financially.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: bigtex on July 18, 2020, 10:47:43 AM
I hear what your saying, and the hunter in me agrees. Realistically though regardless of who is plc, broadcast chemical treatments, aerial or hand application, are not going anywhere until alternative veg control methods can compete financially.
:yeah:

You have DNR who is essentially the state logging company trying to maximize profit with their trees so they spray the brush which eliminates wildlife food/cover. Then you have WDFW trying to improve wildlife numbers/habitat.

Two state agencies, both natural resources oriented, completely different missions which often collide.

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Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: BearCreekCookBook on July 18, 2020, 11:04:47 AM
I reject that the DNR is the state logging company. They are responsible for NATURAL RESOURCES that includes wildlife, fish, berries, mushrooms, minerals, water and soil quality. Yes, there is overlap with other departments, the Public Lands Commissioner should be working to get these departments working together instead of constantly campaigning for more fire fighting money. The reason we have a forest fire problem is they put out every fire for 100 years. So how is continuing to put out forest fires a solution? Fire refreshes the land, unless structures are threatened, let it burn. Hilary is just using this as a step in her political career, she wants to be governor. Time for a change.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 18, 2020, 11:11:12 AM
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Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: BearCreekCookBook on July 18, 2020, 11:37:49 AM
Thanks for posting that balance sheet, interesting to look at, not all values are measured in dollars and cents. I am very pro logging when done in a sensible manner.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 18, 2020, 11:49:37 AM
I get what you're saying about values beyond dollars. But the trust lands are meant to be managed for dollars within the guidelines of Washington Forest Practices.

https://www.dnr.wa.gov/node/268 (https://www.dnr.wa.gov/node/268)
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Tbar on July 18, 2020, 12:31:36 PM
Veg management is one of the toughest dilemmas faced by land managers regardless of purpose. You aren't going to see a political cure. You'd be complaining about blackberries if there wasn't chemical treatments.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Lucky1 on July 18, 2020, 04:08:04 PM
Hilary Franz is Inslee lite. If you want the same kind of government leadership we have now go ahead and re-elect her.
I will vote for Sue Kuehl Pederson

http://www.chronline.com/news/commissioner-of-public-lands-hilary-franz-unveils-climate-resilience-plan/article_72f73428-5507-11ea-9d23-67b58977bca4.html
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: follow maggie on July 18, 2020, 07:27:19 PM
I have not seen any issues with Franz.  DNR is still working on fires and logging, access is still good and there hasn't been any talk about liquidations or public ground.  She has my vote this year.
:yeah:

Some people see the D behind her name and are automatically turned off. But honestly, the public and DNR employees haven't seen a difference between her and previous Public Lands Commissioners who had a R behind their names. Honestly, in current times the biggest task/role the Commissioner has now has to do with wildland fire management (on state lands and state fire protected lands) than anything else.

I don’t dislike her because she’s a democrat as you suggest. I have personal experience with her, and in my experience she’s petty, very arrogant, dishonest, mean spirited and untrustworthy. She has no problem lying to your face and doing the exact opposite of what she said as soon as you turn around. She has no problem telling to stay quiet and in your place if she thinks she has more money than you.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 18, 2020, 07:50:04 PM
Sounds like a politician  :chuckle: I am not a fan of her self promotion. It gets old seeing her face on every page and being asked to join her mailing list every time I visit the dnr site.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Jingles on July 18, 2020, 08:10:22 PM
Problem ZI have with spraying in the forest is if it is sprayed I can't sell it to the yuppies as organic firewood 180 a cord regular firewood and 225 a cord for organic.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Katmai Guy on July 18, 2020, 08:30:50 PM
Problem ZI have with spraying in the forest is if it is sprayed I can't sell it to the yuppies as organic firewood 180 a cord regular firewood and 225 a cord for organic.

You're kidding, right?😲
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: 81husky on July 18, 2020, 08:49:11 PM
You're kidding, right?😲

 :chuckle: I sure  hope so. If not, maybe I should start selling firewood off of my place which is all organic.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Katmai Guy on July 18, 2020, 09:08:14 PM
You're kidding, right?😲

 :chuckle: I sure  hope so. If not, maybe I should start selling firewood off of my place which is all organic.

I wouldn't put it past him, those guys in the Methow are pretty shifty.😂
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Bob33 on July 18, 2020, 09:10:58 PM
You're kidding, right?😲

 :chuckle: I sure  hope so. If not, maybe I should start selling firewood off of my place which is all organic.

I wouldn't put it past him, those guys in the Methow are pretty shifty.😂
Free ranging, shade grown firewood should bring an even higher price.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: huntnphool on July 19, 2020, 01:24:17 AM


I have not seen any issues with Franz.  DNR is still working on fires and logging, access is still good and there hasn't been any talk about liquidations or public ground.  She has my vote this year.
:yeah:

Some people see the D behind her name and are automatically turned off. But honestly, the public and DNR employees haven't seen a difference between her and previous Public Lands Commissioners who had a R behind their names. Honestly, in current times the biggest task/role the Commissioner has now has to do with wildland fire management (on state lands and state fire protected lands) than anything else.
Nice deflection! :chuckle:

 Rather than point out positive attributes and examples to vote for her, a typical liberal tactic of “what’s wrong with the other guy”! :chuckle:
Just love attacking me don't ya? And if you actually knew me you'd know I'm not a liberal. Amazing how your first post on this thread wasn't to give your view on who would make a good PLC but rather attack bigtex. Bravo.

You want a positive attribute? I'll state what I already stated. People haven't seen a difference between Franz (yes she's a scary Democrat) and previous PLCs who were Republicans. There's your positive attribute from me, again.

 Attacking you?...lmao!

 Come on BT, pointing out your liberal tactics does not constitute “attacking“ you! :chuckle:

 You can continue to claim you’re not a liberal, but anyone reading through your post history can clearly see otherwise! ;)

 
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Lucky1 on July 19, 2020, 01:13:51 PM
Hilary Franz is Inslee lite. If you want the same kind of government leadership we have now go ahead and re-elect her.
I will vote for Sue Kuehl Pederson

http://www.chronline.com/news/commissioner-of-public-lands-hilary-franz-unveils-climate-resilience-plan/article_72f73428-5507-11ea-9d23-67b58977bca4.html
I marked my ballot for Sue Kuehl Pederson. I think she is the best choice.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: bobcat on July 19, 2020, 01:57:54 PM
There's some information in this article on the candidates for Commissioner of Public Lands:


https://www.wethegoverned.com/overlooked-washington-state-elected-offices-on-primary-ballot-2020-who-are-these-people/
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 19, 2020, 02:09:29 PM
Hilary Franz is Inslee lite. If you want the same kind of government leadership we have now go ahead and re-elect her.
I will vote for Sue Kuehl Pederson

http://www.chronline.com/news/commissioner-of-public-lands-hilary-franz-unveils-climate-resilience-plan/article_72f73428-5507-11ea-9d23-67b58977bca4.html
I marked my ballot for Sue Kuehl Pederson. I think she is the best choice.

I think she's a better choice as well, and am voting for her. Its tempting to go the route of if it's not broke dont fix it but I think Pedersons the better choice.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: kentrek on July 19, 2020, 02:42:34 PM


I have not seen any issues with Franz.  DNR is still working on fires and logging, access is still good and there hasn't been any talk about liquidations or public ground.  She has my vote this year.
:yeah:

Some people see the D behind her name and are automatically turned off. But honestly, the public and DNR employees haven't seen a difference between her and previous Public Lands Commissioners who had a R behind their names. Honestly, in current times the biggest task/role the Commissioner has now has to do with wildland fire management (on state lands and state fire protected lands) than anything else.
Nice deflection! :chuckle:

 Rather than point out positive attributes and examples to vote for her, a typical liberal tactic of “what’s wrong with the other guy”! :chuckle:
Just love attacking me don't ya? And if you actually knew me you'd know I'm not a liberal. Amazing how your first post on this thread wasn't to give your view on who would make a good PLC but rather attack bigtex. Bravo.

You want a positive attribute? I'll state what I already stated. People haven't seen a difference between Franz (yes she's a scary Democrat) and previous PLCs who were Republicans. There's your positive attribute from me, again.

 Attacking you?...lmao!

 Come on BT, pointing out your liberal tactics does not constitute “attacking“ you! :chuckle:

 You can continue to claim you’re not a liberal, but anyone reading through your post history can clearly see otherwise! ;)

Seems like kind of a stretch when you've never even met the dude...life doesn't need to be so extreme
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: buckfvr on July 19, 2020, 05:45:03 PM
I myself am not happy with this state in general on a lot of issues so it makes me feel better to not vote for the incumbent in any statewide election. Makes it really easy.

Especially when that incumbent is joined at the hip with insleez and was behind the Hirst decision.  She is very much part of the problem for rural folks and is behind the agenda to force us all into the cities where we can be more easily controlled.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: ctwiggs1 on July 19, 2020, 07:55:28 PM
I myself am not happy with this state in general on a lot of issues so it makes me feel better to not vote for the incumbent in any statewide election. Makes it really easy.

Especially when that incumbent is joined at the hip with insleez and was behind the Hirst decision.  She is very much part of the problem for rural folks and is behind the agenda to force us all into the cities where we can be more easily controlled.

What was her involvement with the Hurst decision?
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: bkaech on July 19, 2020, 08:23:48 PM
My vote goes to Pederson, no question.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: jstone on July 19, 2020, 08:30:58 PM
My ballots are all complete
We need a change in this state. A drastic change. Get your family out there to vote!!!
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Oh Mah on July 19, 2020, 10:17:09 PM
There's some information in this article on the candidates for Commissioner of Public Lands:


https://www.wethegoverned.com/overlooked-washington-state-elected-offices-on-primary-ballot-2020-who-are-these-people/
i saw this earlier and it prompted me to check into it all.I see now where the flaws are with Hillary and this new candidate Sue will get my vote.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: follow maggie on July 19, 2020, 10:55:57 PM
I myself am not happy with this state in general on a lot of issues so it makes me feel better to not vote for the incumbent in any statewide election. Makes it really easy.

Especially when that incumbent is joined at the hip with insleez and was behind the Hirst decision.  She is very much part of the problem for rural folks and is behind the agenda to force us all into the cities where we can be more easily controlled.

She and Venezuela Jay (got that name from someone on here) both lived on Bainbridge island, pretty close to each other actually. They’re two peas in a pod.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: fireweed on July 20, 2020, 06:12:14 PM
I've had personal interactions with Hillary Franz,  and the previous land commissioner, Goldmark.  She is much more personable that he was, for sure.  But she is also just using DNR as a stepping stone, so I'm game for an upgrade to someone who is a specialist in Natural Resources (not a wanna-be senator/gov) and the self promotion does get old.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: spin05 on July 22, 2020, 12:53:24 AM
i ended up voting for Sue Kuehl Pederson as well
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Lucky1 on July 25, 2020, 10:10:22 AM
She is definitely the better choice for conservatives and outdoorsmen.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: TriggerMike on August 03, 2020, 09:51:21 PM
I think Franz and Pederson are both not terrible choices, which is refreshing to think when it comes to an elected position in Washington State.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: trophyhunt on August 04, 2020, 06:31:49 AM
i ended up voting for Sue Kuehl Pederson as well
:yeah:
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 11, 2020, 08:53:41 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/sep/18/hilary-franz-sue-kuehl-pederson-focus-on-firefight/%3famp-content=amp


🇺🇸👍
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Curly on October 11, 2020, 09:39:12 AM
If any politician still has a "D" behind their name these days I'd say they are a poor choice for a candidate. The democrat party has totally gone off the rails and if these people are still in that mess of a party, they should be voted out of office. :twocents:

I can't stand Hillary Franz and I can't wait to vote for her replacement.  It gets tiresome reading anything quote from her always talking about climate change.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: elkboy on October 11, 2020, 09:50:34 AM
I've interacted with Franz through my work, and she certainly didn't leave the impression that she was arrogant, etc.  She has an ability to bring people together from across our dysfunctional political spectrum.  The 20 Year Forest Health Strategic Plan has needed to happen for decades.  Forest restoration (which benefits big game, especially on the east side with its overstocked stands of Douglas-fir and grand fir) doesn't happen overnight, but Franz's DNR is tackling the challenge with the best available science.  And timber is going to mills in support of the school and public trust obligations of the DNR, which I certainly appreciate. 

As for the forest herbicide issues, DNR is obligated to regenerate harvested timber stands according to WAC 222-34, which means achieving a minimum stocking of seedlings/saplings per acre (standards differ between east side and west side, but boiling down to 100 saplings/acre).  Unless we release them in a statutory sense from this obligation (which would actually make a lot of sense in some cases), they, like other landowners, will continue to use herbicides to suppress competing vegetation.  Not Franz' responsibility, IMO.   

I do agree with some on this thread, it is good to have two good options in any election these days, not the increasingly common "lesser of two evils".     
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Moose Master on October 12, 2020, 05:44:12 PM
This position shouldn't be partisan.  I'm still thankful of how much public land we have in the state.  Haven't made my mind up yet.
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Limhangerslayer on October 12, 2020, 06:12:20 PM
She is the one that still has OUR state land closed for camping.  She's in bed with Jay Sleezly if you ask me.  I hope she goes down the road!
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Katmai Guy on October 12, 2020, 06:16:49 PM
She is the one that still has OUR state land closed for camping.  She's in bed with Jay Sleezly if you ask me.  I hope she goes down the road!

What state lands are still closed?
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Oh Mah on October 12, 2020, 06:42:58 PM
I did not see any no camping signs up today.  :tup:
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: Southpole on October 12, 2020, 08:20:55 PM
This position shouldn't be partisan.  I'm still thankful of how much public land we have in the state.  Haven't made my mind up yet.
I agree, this position should be non partisan. There’s a fare amount of loggers that I know that support  Hillary, they think she’s doing fine
Title: Re: commissioner of public lands
Post by: hunter399 on October 12, 2020, 08:42:23 PM
This position shouldn't be partisan.  I'm still thankful of how much public land we have in the state.  Haven't made my mind up yet.
Your right it shouldn't
But we have seen public land close one too many times this year .
Won't get my vote.
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