Post by: elksnout on August 26, 2020, 07:58:59 PM
Had battery tested today. 14.83 on the meter and well over 200 plus CCA's under load. Last year replaced the starter, bendix and solinoid.
The lights will not come on. Wouldn't that be the battery?
Help!
Thanks
Elksnout
Post by: Mudman on August 26, 2020, 08:08:35 PM
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Post by: elksnout on August 27, 2020, 10:10:20 AM
Checked and rechecked for loose wires and connections. Rig doesn't have fuses. Not sure how to check a fuseable link?
Elksnout
Post by: Sandberm on August 27, 2020, 10:22:48 AM
I replaced a stock starter once with one made in China(significantly cheaper than oem). After about a year the bike wouldnt turn over. I took the chinese starter off, found a very small piece of cast metal had flaked off and wedged itself in there so the starter motor wouldn't spin. Put it back together and all is good.
Post by: ballpark on August 27, 2020, 11:30:06 AM
Do you have RPM's displayed? I have the service manual for troubleshooting if you want PM me and I can send it via email.
Post by: elksnout on August 27, 2020, 12:41:31 PM
Stator. Pull cover off clean the pickup and check for burnt windings. I had the same problem, replaced stator - all good.
Do you have RPM's displayed? I have the service manual for troubleshooting if you want PM me and I can send it via email.
Replaced the stator when I replaced the starter. I have the codes and the rpm's briefly come up. I've tried the blink codes per the manual but can't get any numbers to code up.
Put in park. Turn key to on position. Then key to off and on There times in less than five seconds. No codes. Just the service wrench icon that fades away?
I have power going into the starter solenoid. Where should power be coming out? There's no power coming out of the two wire plug coming off of it not the other post going to starter.
Shouldn't there be?
Elksnout
Post by: Buckmark on August 27, 2020, 12:44:07 PM
Post by: elksnout on August 27, 2020, 12:57:49 PM
Lighty give that starter some love taps with a hammer while holding the start button
No go with plenty of taps. That was new this time last year. This thing fired right up all last hunting season and I've ridden it around the property multiple times since and it's been kept on a tender. Started it up to back it out of garage, shut it off then hopped on it to drive it back in. No power. No turn over. Nothing.
Post by: hawks33 on August 27, 2020, 01:00:37 PM
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Post by: Sandberm on August 27, 2020, 02:00:17 PM
Maybe give Powersports NW, Centralia, service section a holler and ask them. I betcha they could give you some idea of what little demon is giving you issues.
Sometimes information is free, other times they answer, "well, bring her on in and we'll give it a look!" :rolleyes:
Post by: ballpark on August 27, 2020, 02:02:42 PM
Post by: elksnout on August 27, 2020, 02:58:41 PM
Beyond frustrated so I need to just step away from it. Thanks for all of the suggestions but still no one has answered my question about power coming out of the starter solinoid???
Thanks
Elksnout
Post by: Mudman on August 27, 2020, 03:41:16 PM
Post by: Buckmark on August 27, 2020, 04:31:09 PM
Longshot but an idea is maybe the park/neutral sensor/switch? Im not familiar with your quad. Ignition? Starter solenoid and motor and a multimeter check should help islolate if current getting thru?Good call on the switch, i for sure would be checking/bypassing it to see what happens
Post by: ballpark on August 28, 2020, 07:23:07 AM
Longshot but an idea is maybe the park/neutral sensor/switch? Im not familiar with your quad. Ignition? Starter solenoid and motor and a multimeter check should help islolate if current getting thru?
Solenoids are voltage dependent. So to go back to battery being fully charged. Might need to keep troubleshooting that after you look at the park/neutral switch. Good luck keep us up to date. :tup:
Post by: Angry Perch on August 28, 2020, 08:50:43 AM
Post by: Sandberm on August 28, 2020, 10:04:38 AM
Post by: elksnout on August 28, 2020, 01:24:03 PM
Longshot but an idea is maybe the park/neutral sensor/switch? Im not familiar with your quad. Ignition? Starter solenoid and motor and a multimeter check should help islolate if current getting thru?
Part of my problem is I'm an electrical dummie.....pretty good elsewhere but there I got shorted at birth. No pun intended.
Where would I locate that switch? All of the gears show on the instrument panel. If the switch were bad they wouldn't, correct? I think that know I've added to my problem. I had a spare solenoid so I installed it. Now the solenoid clicks rapidly when turning the key but still won't fire. Plus, by accident I touched the starter just after the above and it was very early warm. Does it matter which of the two posts coming off the solenoid get which cables? Positive to battery and black along with small wire to starter. But do these have a designated post to go to? I
To answer another poster, I always have started this rig with the parking brake engaged.
Elksnout
Post by: ballpark on August 28, 2020, 01:47:51 PM
I'm not poking you in the eye - keep charging the battery, when its good, disconnect or turn charger off wait a few hours then charge the battery again. New batteries may take awhile before you get the correct electrolytes. I know you had it tested but its worth a try, those trickle chargers are sensitive as to when they shutoff, sometimes 70-80%. It took me a few cycles on a new battery before it was "fully" charged.
Post by: elksnout on August 28, 2020, 01:54:00 PM
Starter solenoid wires - Red wire that also has two grey wires on same side, the red goes to battery + the two grey go to fusible links then turn into red. Other post Red goes to starter. Also starter has its own engine ground.
This is how it's wired. Concerning those two posts on the solinoid.... Does it matter which post is used for connecting to the battery and which one for going to the starter?
Thanks
Post by: ballpark on August 28, 2020, 01:58:20 PM
I'm not poking you in the eye - keep charging the battery, when its good, disconnect or turn charger off wait a few hours then charge the battery again. New batteries may take awhile before you get the correct electrolytes. I know you had it tested but its worth a try, those trickle chargers are sensitive as to when they shutoff, sometimes 70-80%. It took me a few cycles on a new battery before it was "fully" charged.
On the side with the fusible link wires, that post goes to battery.
Post by: elksnout on August 28, 2020, 02:03:37 PM
To answer your question give me a second, however;Logging
I'm not poking you in the eye - keep charging the battery, when its good, disconnect or turn charger off wait a few hours then charge the battery again. New batteries may take awhile before you get the correct electrolytes. I know you had it tested but its worth a try, those trickle chargers are sensitive as to when they shutoff, sometimes 70-80%. It took me a few cycles on a new battery before it was "fully" charged.
This battery is approx. 4 months old and I've ridden the quad many times with it. I keep it charged. Right now it's at 12.84 on my meter.
Thanks
Post by: ballpark on August 28, 2020, 02:14:06 PM
Post by: elksnout on August 28, 2020, 02:47:17 PM
Post by: ballpark on August 28, 2020, 02:48:02 PM
12.22 with the switches on. Drops to 12.22 when key is fully engaged to the right.
May be bad solenoid.
Post by: elksnout on August 28, 2020, 02:48:38 PM
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Post by: Sandberm on August 28, 2020, 05:14:53 PM
https://parts.polarisind.com/Assemblies.asp (https://parts.polarisind.com/Assemblies.asp)
Post by: elksnout on August 31, 2020, 08:00:58 PM
All weekend I kept thinking about how that starter was getting hot in addition to others suggestions on here. Overnighted one and swapped it out today. No small task.
Thanks for all of the help guys.
Elksnout
Post by: ballpark on September 01, 2020, 07:47:51 AM
:4w:
Great machines, I have a 2005 Polaris Sportsman 500 HO, have worked on just about everything. Glad to hear got it figured out. :tup: