Post by: dirty24d on September 08, 2020, 11:30:36 AM
Post by: shootem on September 08, 2020, 11:37:01 AM
Post by: dirty24d on September 08, 2020, 11:38:17 AM
Thats a hurter!
Post by: timberfaller on September 08, 2020, 11:38:37 AM
https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/predict/intelligence.aspx
Post by: Sandberm on September 08, 2020, 11:41:07 AM
watch here I guess. https://www.tvw.org/watch/?clientID=9375922947&eventID=2020091071 (https://www.tvw.org/watch/?clientID=9375922947&eventID=2020091071)
Post by: dirty24d on September 08, 2020, 11:41:58 AM
Here is why! Click Morning briefing, Shades of 1971, only it was lightning back then.
https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/predict/intelligence.aspx
Great resource, thank you.
Post by: timberfaller on September 08, 2020, 11:44:17 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on September 08, 2020, 12:41:27 PM
Post by: TriggerMike on September 08, 2020, 12:47:04 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 08, 2020, 12:47:28 PM
Think Wdfw will be busy with tag swaps? Archery elk is this weekend I think.
It's too late for that. Deadline was September 1st. From page 9:
Post by: OltHunter on September 08, 2020, 12:57:03 PM
Dang that really sucks for those guys archery elk hunting the Colockum :bash:
Isn't Colockum considered WDFW managed land?
Post by: TriggerMike on September 08, 2020, 01:00:28 PM
Dang that really sucks for those guys archery elk hunting the Colockum :bash:
Isn't Colockum considered WDFW managed land?
I believe the Naneum State Forest is DNR?
Post by: Bowhunter3 on September 08, 2020, 01:01:56 PM
Dang that really sucks for those guys archery elk hunting the Colockum :bash:
Isn't Colockum considered WDFW managed land?
I believe the Naneum State Forest is DNR?
Yup :'(
Post by: OltHunter on September 08, 2020, 01:03:38 PM
Dang that really sucks for those guys archery elk hunting the Colockum :bash:
Isn't Colockum considered WDFW managed land?
I believe the Naneum State Forest is DNR?
You're right, I thought that was all Colockum Wildlife Area, but a good block is managed by DNR.
https://www.dnr.wa.gov/publications/amp_rec_greendot_naneum_colockum_05012019.pdf?9tfka7
Hopefully they are being overly cautious and it will open up this weekend or next week. Lots of good area still open there though on NFS and the Quilomene.
Post by: bobcat on September 08, 2020, 01:06:45 PM
Post by: OltHunter on September 08, 2020, 01:21:49 PM
Usually when DNR closes their lands the WDFW does the same. I bet we'll be seeing an announcement soon.
Okay, then just the NFS land! Ha. I wont be greedy, just open it up at least for 7 days at some point for us!
Post by: HillHound on September 08, 2020, 01:37:36 PM
Post by: Nmesub on September 08, 2020, 02:51:36 PM
Post by: Buckmark on September 08, 2020, 02:55:52 PM
Fire in Curlew on Customs rd. If anyone has any more info i would appreciate it.Try sending Tracker0721 a Pm as he lives in Malo and may have some info
Post by: Nmesub on September 08, 2020, 03:03:40 PM
will do. Thanks.Fire in Curlew on Customs rd. If anyone has any more info i would appreciate it.Try sending Tracker0721 a Pm as he lives in Malo and may have some info
Post by: bowguy on September 08, 2020, 08:45:31 PM
Post by: dirty24d on September 08, 2020, 08:58:46 PM
Well my dad and i are 2 of the bull tag holders for Archery in the colockum. We are in the group with camp set as we were up for the weekend and came out Monday to resupply and was heading back in tomorrow. Well obviously that plan had changed and we are in a small scramble mode to be honest. Let's hope they open it.
Sent u a message
Post by: OltHunter on September 08, 2020, 09:52:08 PM
Well my dad and i are 2 of the bull tag holders for Archery in the colockum. We are in the group with camp set as we were up for the weekend and came out Monday to resupply and was heading back in tomorrow. Well obviously that plan had changed and we are in a small scramble mode to be honest. Let's hope they open it.
Think we have 40% of the tags accounted for now. You have 2, we have 2, someone else posted the standard help post, and I believe 1 other person too.
The federal land still has great areas to chase elk. Our camp and plans A to E are closed, and we hope to be able to hunt them at some point, but we focused on F to J in the federal lands since we've never hunted there so have some spots to look at.
Feel free to PM to exchange notes or sync up. If you we only scouted, don't have any great knowledge of the areas, but that adds an element of fun for me.
If all the general crowd, 75 cow hunters and all 12 bull hunters show up on federal, the pressure will make it challenging to say the least... Bring it on!
Post by: bowguy on September 09, 2020, 03:42:15 AM
Well my dad and i are 2 of the bull tag holders for Archery in the colockum. We are in the group with camp set as we were up for the weekend and came out Monday to resupply and was heading back in tomorrow. Well obviously that plan had changed and we are in a small scramble mode to be honest. Let's hope they open it.
Think we have 40% of the tags accounted for now. You have 2, we have 2, someone else posted the standard help post, and I believe 1 other person too.
The federal land still has great areas to chase elk. Our camp and plans A to E are closed, and we hope to be able to hunt them at some point, but we focused on F to J in the federal lands since we've never hunted there so have some spots to look at.
Feel free to PM to exchange notes or sync up. If you we only scouted, don't have any great knowledge of the areas, but that adds an element of fun for me.
If all the general crowd, 75 cow hunters and all 12 bull hunters show up on federal, the pressure will make it challenging to say the least... Bring it on!
Oh for sure we are ready. We've hunted the NF side before and did a luttle scouting that way also this year. It was our intent to hunt that way for a couple days possibly if we weren't seeing what we wanted. Been ripping apart onx finding even more spots that way now. Good luck to you guys.
Post by: Onewhohikes on September 09, 2020, 05:48:25 AM
Post by: rougheye on September 09, 2020, 07:40:45 AM
Post by: ridgefire on September 10, 2020, 08:01:31 PM
Post by: OltHunter on September 10, 2020, 08:09:27 PM
Is the area up around Lions Rock in the Naneum closed?
Open
Post by: ridgefire on September 10, 2020, 08:21:03 PM
Post by: TriggerMike on September 15, 2020, 03:20:49 PM
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Post by: weaksauce on September 15, 2020, 03:51:06 PM
Post by: jstone on September 16, 2020, 08:00:32 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on September 16, 2020, 08:48:44 PM
Is the land up in the Naneum open for huntingsome is some isn’t look on a map or onX
Post by: huntnnw on September 16, 2020, 09:59:30 PM
Post by: hunter399 on September 17, 2020, 05:37:56 AM
Stopped nobody from hunting the DNR near my houseI have to agree stopping no one on this side of the state .
Post by: huntnnw on September 17, 2020, 06:06:43 AM
Post by: sjhgraysage on September 17, 2020, 08:44:04 AM
Any one have any idea when they might post something? And Where?
Conditions have not improved much, except that the fire fighters have made progress in getting containment on several fires, and the smoke seems to be slowly clearing out. So I'm not expecting that they will lift the recreation ban.
Post by: Shooter4 on September 17, 2020, 09:25:03 AM
Post by: jstone on September 17, 2020, 10:18:39 AM
I want to elk hunt Sunday at least for one day
Post by: Shayminielly on September 17, 2020, 11:03:49 AM
Post by: TriggerMike on September 17, 2020, 12:05:10 PM
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Post by: sjhgraysage on September 17, 2020, 12:19:54 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 17, 2020, 01:21:01 PM
Post by: HillHound on September 17, 2020, 02:49:30 PM
Post by: Bowhunter35 on September 17, 2020, 05:14:19 PM
Post by: jstone on September 17, 2020, 05:45:32 PM
Post by: Elkstalker on September 24, 2020, 07:23:32 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on September 24, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
So late to the conversation but I was one of the clockum archery bull tag holders. If you were able to check your emails, the game department gave you an option to return your permit to restore your points. It just had to be post marked within 7 days of your hunts opening day. I hunted pretty hard for 6 days with not hardly any bulls talking. But did see some true B&C bulls. I did return my permit, no regrets and wasn’t willing to hang 18 points on the line for maybe 5 or 6 days of the bulls possibly getting fired up. I look at it as I got 6 days of practice run for when I get drawn next time plus through this forum I was able to broaden my horizons in the clockum that I’ve hunted for 20 years and thought I knew quite well.ill say it....
It is complete bs and horse crap that you were able to actually hunt your tag and also return it for your points back. :twocents:
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 24, 2020, 07:33:36 PM
Post by: Bango skank on September 24, 2020, 07:35:14 PM
Post by: Elkstalker on September 24, 2020, 07:51:11 PM
Post by: OltHunter on September 24, 2020, 07:53:59 PM
ill say it....
It is complete bs and horse crap that you were able to actually hunt your tag and also return it for your points back. :twocents:
I don't want to get in it too much, but will mention...
It's also bull crap they closed DNR land to recreation. bull crap people still camped and hunted it and recreated on it and nobody enforced it or even talked to those camps that we heard from.
I did the exact same as Elkstalker. A good practice run. We hunted NFS land we've never set foot in before and camped where we were supposed to. I did call in a nice 6x6 for my buddy so we at least got 1 out of there.
I won't deny we got a gift. I am very appreciative of WDFW.
Post by: Dan-o on September 24, 2020, 07:57:23 PM
You guys are being a little emotional. 7 days before the hunt everything was good no smoke no closures. So why would they offer that. So. actually that reacted as things unfolded. So if you had 18 years riding on it you would hope the game department would have the same compassion when you get drawn under the same conditions.
I'd do what you did.
Glad you got to spend a few day out there.
Post by: MHWASH on September 24, 2020, 08:00:45 PM
So late to the conversation but I was one of the clockum archery bull tag holders. If you were able to check your emails, the game department gave you an option to return your permit to restore your points. It just had to be post marked within 7 days of your hunts opening day. I hunted pretty hard for 6 days with not hardly any bulls talking. But did see some true B&C bulls. I did return my permit, no regrets and wasn’t willing to hang 18 points on the line for maybe 5 or 6 days of the bulls possibly getting fired up. I look at it as I got 6 days of practice run for when I get drawn next time plus through this forum I was able to broaden my horizons in the clockum that I’ve hunted for 20 years and thought I knew quite well.
I’d have done the same thing. If anyone else says any different, they’re full of *censored*.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on September 24, 2020, 08:02:41 PM
Post by: huntnnw on September 24, 2020, 08:03:14 PM
Post by: Bango skank on September 24, 2020, 08:04:16 PM
Im not upset for people taking advantage of what wdfw offered, i am upset that wdfw offered it. Imo they should not be alowing people to hunt on special permits and then if unsuccessful return them for points reinstatement.
:yeah:
Post by: fishngamereaper on September 24, 2020, 08:10:37 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 24, 2020, 08:13:22 PM
I don't blame anybody except WDFW for taking advantage of that BS decision. Gotta say though it's disingenuous to say the tag wasn't worth having with a 6 pt in camp and/or seeing B&C bulls.
Post by: huntnnw on September 24, 2020, 08:14:03 PM
Post by: huntnnw on September 24, 2020, 08:15:58 PM
Post by: sled on September 24, 2020, 08:35:40 PM
So late to the conversation but I was one of the clockum archery bull tag holders. If you were able to check your emails, the game department gave you an option to return your permit to restore your points. It just had to be post marked within 7 days of your hunts opening day. I hunted pretty hard for 6 days with not hardly any bulls talking. But did see some true B&C bulls. I did return my permit, no regrets and wasn’t willing to hang 18 points on the line for maybe 5 or 6 days of the bulls possibly getting fired up. I look at it as I got 6 days of practice run for when I get drawn next time plus through this forum I was able to broaden my horizons in the clockum that I’ve hunted for 20 years and thought I knew quite well.wow!!! Bs you were allowed to do that, and shame on you for doing so. I hope your not trolling.
Post by: sled on September 24, 2020, 08:37:10 PM
Another screw up by wdfw. Should have had to be postmarked 7 days before your hunt started. Total *censored*.. Another screw up by a hunter with bad morals
Post by: Muleyslyr on September 24, 2020, 08:41:44 PM
So late to the conversation but I was one of the clockum archery bull tag holders. If you were able to check your emails, the game department gave you an option to return your permit to restore your points. It just had to be post marked within 7 days of your hunts opening day. I hunted pretty hard for 6 days with not hardly any bulls talking. But did see some true B&C bulls. I did return my permit, no regrets and wasn’t willing to hang 18 points on the line for maybe 5 or 6 days of the bulls possibly getting fired up. I look at it as I got 6 days of practice run for when I get drawn next time plus through this forum I was able to broaden my horizons in the clockum that I’ve hunted for 20 years and thought I knew quite well.
Am I reading this wrong? Did you not say WITHIN 7 days of your hunts opening day? So wtf? How do you hunt 6 days and give it back. Don’t cry about your 18pts and not filling your tag. I have 20 putting in for the same unit. That’s weak.
Post by: builtfordtough on September 24, 2020, 08:46:41 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on September 24, 2020, 08:50:17 PM
DNR closure caused the hunters who wanted to do the right thing and obey the closure go to areas where they hadn't scouted or knew the area. We could have easily parked where we wanted to on dnr land and hunt dnr land. But my buddy and his buddy (tag holders) wanted to be 100% legal and they chose not to hunt DNR land. Buddy had 21 pts and i believe other guy had 17. Land closed on Tuesday before the hunt. Not alot of time to go and scout completely new areas. Wdfw is not to blame for giving pts back. I think it was pretty cool of them. If you wanna be mad, be mad at DNR for closing. Or be mad at the arsonists. Or be mad just to be mad. I say good on wdfw, for once.Dnr closed on tuesday. That gave 3-4 days wdfw could have made people choose ro hunt or get points back before the season. Hell they could have given 24 hours past the opener and made a phone line for hunters to request points back and not hunt. I do think wdfw tried to do the right thing allowing returns but it is absolutely asenine that they allowed people to hunt for 6 days and then return the tag. You should either get to hunt or get points back. Not both.
Post by: builtfordtough on September 24, 2020, 08:56:23 PM
Post by: builtfordtough on September 24, 2020, 08:59:25 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on September 24, 2020, 09:01:05 PM
If you had the tag would you be saying the same thing?
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I would of hunted the whole season because I had the tag in the first place. Turning it in would not have been an option for me.
Post by: Elkstalker on September 24, 2020, 09:04:13 PM
Post by: full choke on September 24, 2020, 09:10:02 PM
*censored*
In before the mods...
Post by: fishngamereaper on September 24, 2020, 09:11:58 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 24, 2020, 09:17:18 PM
I'm hoping wdfw makes this the new norm. Test hunt your tag for 6 days and if your not fully satisfied return it for all your points back.. :tup:
I hope not. Would have hated if the Big Nasty thread ended with, "ended up calling it quits, not enough bugling"
Post by: fishngamereaper on September 24, 2020, 09:20:57 PM
I'm hoping wdfw makes this the new norm. Test hunt your tag for 6 days and if your not fully satisfied return it for all your points back.. :tup:
I hope not. Would have hated if the Big Nasty thread ended with, "ended up calling it quits, not enough bugling"
:chuckle:. So true..
Besides killing bulls on the last day is so stressful.
Post by: TriggerMike on September 24, 2020, 11:45:08 PM
*censored*So much wrong with this situation IMO. Did you inform the WDFW that you hunted for 6 full days before you asked for your points back? You should've kept hunting because you'll likely never draw that tag again, ever. Even with 18 points. You didn't even hunt the good days of the season. Rookie move, you screwed yourself over big time.
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Post by: Dan-o on September 25, 2020, 12:50:04 AM
Remind me not to tell you all about the Washington goat tag my son got the whole season for and still got his points back. LOL
Post by: ctwiggs1 on September 25, 2020, 07:57:44 AM
One of the stupidest things wdfw has done. :bash:
Not even close ;)
Post by: jaredwitman on September 25, 2020, 08:40:56 AM
Rough crowd.
Remind me not to tell you all about the Washington goat tag my son got the whole season for and still got his points back. LOL
Okay, I've got to hear this!
Post by: fishngamereaper on September 25, 2020, 08:52:08 AM
One of the stupidest things wdfw has done. :bash:
Not even close ;)
Well I said one of. But the list is really long.
Post by: Rainier10 on September 25, 2020, 09:52:09 AM
Post by: Mtnwalker on September 25, 2020, 10:07:03 AM
So late to the conversation but I was one of the clockum archery bull tag holders. If you were able to check your emails, the game department gave you an option to return your permit to restore your points. It just had to be post marked within 7 days of your hunts opening day. I hunted pretty hard for 6 days with not hardly any bulls talking. But did see some true B&C bulls. I did return my permit, no regrets and wasn’t willing to hang 18 points on the line for maybe 5 or 6 days of the bulls possibly getting fired up. I look at it as I got 6 days of practice run for when I get drawn next time plus through this forum I was able to broaden my horizons in the clockum that I’ve hunted for 20 years and thought I knew quite well.
Even given the conditions, your odds of sticking it out and killing a bull IMO were way higher than your odds of ever pulling the tag again. Or at least they should have been. :dunno:
Post by: Stein on September 25, 2020, 10:30:09 AM
So late to the conversation but I was one of the clockum archery bull tag holders. If you were able to check your emails, the game department gave you an option to return your permit to restore your points. It just had to be post marked within 7 days of your hunts opening day. I hunted pretty hard for 6 days with not hardly any bulls talking. But did see some true B&C bulls. I did return my permit, no regrets and wasn’t willing to hang 18 points on the line for maybe 5 or 6 days of the bulls possibly getting fired up. I look at it as I got 6 days of practice run for when I get drawn next time plus through this forum I was able to broaden my horizons in the clockum that I’ve hunted for 20 years and thought I knew quite well.
Even given the conditions, your odds of sticking it out and killing a bull IMO were way higher than your odds of ever pulling the tag again. Or at least they should have been. :dunno:
Last year, a guy was 5x more likely to shoot an elk there than draw the tag with 18 points. Even if the odds went down 75% this year you are still right.
Post by: Stein on September 25, 2020, 10:32:27 AM
Post by: Dan-o on September 25, 2020, 10:49:36 AM
WDFW seems to inflict random acts of violence and compassion. My daughter drew a tag you had to wait for a call to hunt. Call from WDFW never came, they wouldn't give points back. She lost her points for a tag she never could hunt.
Been there myself.
It doesn't feel good
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 25, 2020, 11:02:27 AM
WDFW seems to inflict random acts of violence and compassion. My daughter drew a tag you had to wait for a call to hunt. Call from WDFW never came, they wouldn't give points back. She lost her points for a tag she never could hunt.
Agreed.
Post by: sjhgraysage on September 25, 2020, 11:32:06 AM
I got an email from the WDW regarding returning my permit shortly after the DNR announcing the closure. It included a phone number as well as instructions. The instruction I got were that my returned permit would have to be post marked on or before 9/26/2020. My opening day for the permit is 9/28/2020.
I called number in the email and talked to the person who answered and he stated again that if I wanted to return the permit and get my points back the returned envelope with the permit in it had to be postmarked no later than 9/26/2020.
Post by: Rainier10 on September 25, 2020, 11:38:06 AM
I do know this for sure.That is what I would expect the email and the company line to be. You have to return it before the hunt and certainly not after you have tested the water for 6 days.
I got an email from the WDW regarding returning my permit shortly after the DNR announcing the closure. It included a phone number as well as instructions. The instruction I got were that my returned permit would have to be post marked on or before 9/26/2020. My opening day for the permit is 9/28/2020.
I called number in the email and talked to the person who answered and he stated again that if I wanted to return the permit and get my points back the returned envelope with the permit in it had to be postmarked no later than 9/26/2020.
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 25, 2020, 11:39:45 AM
Post by: bobcat on September 25, 2020, 11:45:45 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on September 25, 2020, 12:12:53 PM
Well, do we know the points actually were restored after being able to hunt for six days? We know he THINKS that's the case. But maybe not.I am curious about that as well. I would love to see the actual email and how it is worded.
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 27, 2020, 10:44:36 AM
Rough crowd.
Remind me not to tell you all about the Washington goat tag my son got the whole season for and still got his points back. LOL
No kidding. And this has been posted on FB with all the rage a keyboard can muster.