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Title: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: huntnfmly on September 08, 2020, 04:38:44 PM: Hey guys I have a bunch of deer corn left over from my daughters hunt and was wanting to set up a bait site on this side of the mountains for late archery.
Stupid question but do blacktails like corn?
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: Buckmark on September 08, 2020, 04:46:34 PM: Quote from: huntnfmly on September 08, 2020, 04:38:44 PM
Hey guys I have a bunch of deer corn left over from my daughters hunt and was wanting to set up a bait site on this side of the mountains for late archery.
Stupid question but do blacktails like corn?
Only stupid questions are the ones not asked
Oh, and yes they do :tup:
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: huntnfmly on September 08, 2020, 06:07:43 PM: Thank you
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: Night goat on September 08, 2020, 09:06:23 PM: had 30 lbs of corn disappear from my yard in about a week. they love corn and birdseed
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: Mallardmasher on September 09, 2020, 10:41:49 AM: Corn in itself is bad for Blacktails, unless you wean them off of it with a forage pellet. The corn changes their gut enzymes, and if you stop cold turkey, they are unable to digest browse for weeks until the enzymes change back, after the rut or hard winter it can lead to starvation. Better to use wet cob and a pellet like sportsman’s choice, this creates complex carbs and enzymes will remain they same as browse require, just my 2cents
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: lokidog on September 09, 2020, 05:23:27 PM: Quote from: Buckmark on September 08, 2020, 04:46:34 PM
Quote from: huntnfmly on September 08, 2020, 04:38:44 PM
Hey guys I have a bunch of deer corn left over from my daughters hunt and was wanting to set up a bait site on this side of the mountains for late archery.
Stupid question but do blacktails like corn?
Only stupid questions are the ones not asked
Oh, and yes they do :tup:

As a past teacher... yes, there are some really stupid questions.... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: shootem on September 10, 2020, 12:26:30 AM: My problem with corn for blacktails is the bears like it even more.
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: Onewhohikes on September 10, 2020, 06:07:03 AM: plus the fact that corn is not a natural diet of blacktails and messes with their digestive system
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: Fatherof5 on September 10, 2020, 08:05:15 AM: In the past I've had black tail sniff the corn, take one bite, and then go right back to eating maple leaves. I switched to wild bird seed mix a couple years ago. That's the ticket! :twocents:
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: lokidog on September 10, 2020, 08:12:46 AM: I always had good luck with Del's Allstock pellets, high in protien and not just carbohydrates.
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: shootem on September 10, 2020, 01:35:55 PM: They love apples.
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: passing-thru on September 10, 2020, 01:45:28 PM: Definitely, I’ve probably put out 1000 lbs (5 gals it less at a time) since beginning of June. Works well
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: Old Man8383 on September 10, 2020, 02:52:51 PM: In dry bench legged areas alfalfa hay, apples, and apple pumice has worked well for me. I've not had luck though with alfalfa pellets. Don't forget minerals/salt. Often works better than food bait. On the wet West side apples have been the only thing that's worked well besides food plots and salt/minerals. I've never seen black tail eat fallen maple leaves, but frosted freshly fallen alder leaves black tail bucks will gobble like pigs to fill their bellies before first light and then bed up re-chewing this coarse feed. The frost locks the sugars in the leaves and lowers the tannic acid levels.
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: fishnfur on September 11, 2020, 12:19:19 PM: Quote from: Mallardmasher on September 09, 2020, 10:41:49 AM
Corn in itself is bad for Blacktails, unless you wean them off of it with a forage pellet. The corn changes their gut enzymes, and if you stop cold turkey, they are unable to digest browse for weeks until the enzymes change back, after the rut or hard winter it can lead to starvation. Better to use wet cob and a pellet like sportsman’s choice, this creates complex carbs and enzymes will remain they same as browse require, just my 2cents

Nice to see you posting again. I agree with your ideas.
I've never had luck with deer feed in the yard, nor mineral/salt in the field. Apples, apples, apples if you want to get them coming in, especially after the first freeze has killed other major browse. It seems to me that they ignore store bought apples in favor of locally grown. Anybody else ever get this feeling?
Old Man8383 - nice post!
Title: Re: Baiting blacktails with corn
Post by: Lucky1 on September 11, 2020, 01:02:04 PM: Quote from: fishnfur on September 11, 2020, 12:19:19 PM
Quote from: Mallardmasher on September 09, 2020, 10:41:49 AM
Corn in itself is bad for Blacktails, unless you wean them off of it with a forage pellet. The corn changes their gut enzymes, and if you stop cold turkey, they are unable to digest browse for weeks until the enzymes change back, after the rut or hard winter it can lead to starvation. Better to use wet cob and a pellet like sportsman’s choice, this creates complex carbs and enzymes will remain they same as browse require, just my 2cents

Nice to see you posting again. I agree with your ideas.
I've never had luck with deer feed in the yard, nor mineral/salt in the field. Apples, apples, apples if you want to get them coming in, especially after the first freeze has killed other major browse. It seems to me that they ignore store bought apples in favor of locally grown. Anybody else ever get this feeling?
Old Man8383 - nice post!
Yes. I have seen the same thing. The apples from the store probably have more pesticides on them and I think in cold storage they use CO2 to prevent spoilage which may affect the smell of the apples. I have had some that they just wouldn’t eat.