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Title: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 04, 2020, 07:45:00 PM
Anyone hear or see all the commotion off 264 in graham this evening. Quite a few trucks parked watching the big field with a blind in it. Wasn’t sure what was going on a few people walking the road saying they were pissed cause they were shooting towards there houses. Found this odd. 
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: xX Let ER Rip Xx on October 04, 2020, 08:03:24 PM
Haven’t heard anything about that one. But there was some commotion yesterday apparently. People should know their surroundings and know what they’re shooting at that’s for sure....... :twocents:
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: Crunchy on October 04, 2020, 08:12:52 PM
just curious East of Meridian?  I know the west of Meridian issues have been a problem before.  Fairly rural area and open shoot as long as you are being careful.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: h20hunter on October 04, 2020, 08:21:37 PM
Hmmmm...wonder if that is a guided hunter....not good from the sounds of it.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 04, 2020, 08:27:17 PM
Haven’t heard anything about that one. But there was some commotion yesterday apparently. People should know their surroundings and know what they’re shooting at that’s for sure....... :twocents:

That’s crazy!!! There was a hunter in a white for that was glassing this field.

just curious East of Meridian?  I know the west of Meridian issues have been a problem before.  Fairly rural area and open shoot as long as you are being careful.

This was east east side of OK highway. A guy that was walking said so I g wasn’t right. Heard two shots almost on top of each other come from the blind. Was saying he’s house was right in the shooting lane
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: bobcat on October 04, 2020, 08:29:10 PM
Some people are paranoid just hearing a gun shot. Might have been 100% legal and 100% safe.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: xX Let ER Rip Xx on October 04, 2020, 08:32:35 PM
Legal or not........ be careful and know your surroundings!
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 04, 2020, 08:35:49 PM
Some people are paranoid just hearing a gun shot. Might have been 100% legal and 100% safe.

And this is very true, only thought was when there was 5-6 vehicles parked 100 yards from the blind facing houses. Raises a red flag in a lot of ways

Legal or not........ be careful and know your surroundings!

Yes could t agree more.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: xX Let ER Rip Xx on October 04, 2020, 08:43:29 PM
We hear gunshots out here quite a bit. One bad shot can cause lifelong changes.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: dilleytech on October 04, 2020, 09:37:19 PM
How far was this blind from the houses?
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 05, 2020, 07:39:55 AM
How far was this blind from the houses?

130ish from a main road and 175 facing right at 3 houses

Not sure what the requirements are thought I remember to be legal it was 300 feet please correct me if other wise
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on October 05, 2020, 07:51:55 AM
shoot there were two cows behind AM-PM on 224th and meridain friday night right across from riteaid
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 05, 2020, 07:56:45 AM
shoot there were two cows behind AM-PM on 224th and meridain friday night right across from riteaid
shoot there were two cows behind AM-PM on 224th and meridain friday night right across from riteaid

Hey now everyone likes a good slurpee
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: emac on October 05, 2020, 10:47:10 AM
How far was this blind from the houses?

130ish from a main road and 175 facing right at 3 houses

Not sure what the requirements are thought I remember to be legal it was 300 feet please correct me if other wise
3 ft in a yard so sounds like they were far enough away.  But if they are shooting towards houses that is no good.

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Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 05, 2020, 10:55:42 AM
How far was this blind from the houses?

130ish from a main road and 175 facing right at 3 houses

Not sure what the requirements are thought I remember to be legal it was 300 feet please correct me if other wise
3 ft in a yard so sounds like they were far enough away.  But if they are shooting towards houses that is no good.

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True. That was the puzzling thing for me. I just hope all is well and there hunt went well and no one got hurt and the homeowners were safe. All we can ask for as hunters and landowners.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: Stein on October 05, 2020, 11:01:14 AM
NRA says maximum range for .308 is 2.6 miles.  The problem with hunting in places with a bunch of houses is that it can be very hard to ensure there isn't a house, car, person, livestock, pets, etc within 2.6 miles in any direction you might want to take a shot.  If the 2.6 mile line leaves the property you are hunting it can be incredibly difficult to determine if the shot is safe.

https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2019/11/7/gun-safety-ammunition-maximum-range/ (https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2019/11/7/gun-safety-ammunition-maximum-range/)
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 05, 2020, 11:02:47 AM
NRA says maximum range for .308 is 2.6 miles.  The problem with hunting in places with a bunch of houses is that it can be very hard to ensure there isn't a house, car, person, livestock, pets, etc within 2.6 miles in any direction you might want to take a shot.  If the 2.6 mile line leaves the property you are hunting it can be incredibly difficult to determine if the shot is safe.

https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2019/11/7/gun-safety-ammunition-maximum-range/ (https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2019/11/7/gun-safety-ammunition-maximum-range/)

This is a good point.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: jackelope on October 05, 2020, 11:37:13 AM
Hmmmm...wonder if that is a guided hunter....not good from the sounds of it.

You went there....
:chuckle:
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: jackelope on October 05, 2020, 11:37:42 AM
NRA says maximum range for .308 is 2.6 miles.  The problem with hunting in places with a bunch of houses is that it can be very hard to ensure there isn't a house, car, person, livestock, pets, etc within 2.6 miles in any direction you might want to take a shot.  If the 2.6 mile line leaves the property you are hunting it can be incredibly difficult to determine if the shot is safe.

https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2019/11/7/gun-safety-ammunition-maximum-range/ (https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2019/11/7/gun-safety-ammunition-maximum-range/)

I'm betting the "rifle" was a muzzleloader.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: Stein on October 05, 2020, 11:39:40 AM
Good point.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: duckmen1 on October 05, 2020, 11:44:12 AM
Hmmmm...wonder if that is a guided hunter....not good from the sounds of it.

You went there....
:chuckle:

Always a good bet. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 05, 2020, 11:56:58 AM
Hmmmm...wonder if that is a guided hunter....not good from the sounds of it.

You went there....
:chuckle:

True statements here.

Always a good bet. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: xX Let ER Rip Xx on October 05, 2020, 12:21:08 PM
Still very concerning......... thing is we as hunters all had to take hunters safety right...?? Well I know for a fact they teach to always be sure what your background is and where you’re at before you ever take a shot at an animal....!!

If it was “the guide”......... well he should know better, but seems like it doesn’t really matter much to that guy...!! He has quite the reputation in this area for some of the shenanigans he pulls.!
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: slowhand on October 05, 2020, 01:09:57 PM
is there any possibility the guy in the blind was using a bow?
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: h20hunter on October 05, 2020, 01:12:45 PM
Still very concerning......... thing is we as hunters all had to take hunters safety right...?? Well I know for a fact they teach to always be sure what your background is and where you’re at before you ever take a shot at an animal....!!

If it was “the guide”......... well he should know better, but seems like it doesn’t really matter much to that guy...!! He has quite the reputation in this area for some of the shenanigans he pulls.!

Simply because the area and the reputation that "that guide person " has I'm assuming he is affiliated. 
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 05, 2020, 01:14:57 PM
is there any possibility the guy in the blind was using a bow?

I can not confirm as I wasn’t there just went by all this while driving g by. One land owner was saying no, he saw two people with guns on there shoulder walking to the blind walking with buckets. 

I know you can use a bow during muzzy with a muzzy tag.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: bobcat on October 05, 2020, 06:35:45 PM
A blind facing in the direction of some houses doesn't necessarily mean someone would be shooting directly at a house. It's something you'd probably have to see in person to really know. But just to say it's not safe because the direction a blind is facing just seems to me like something that can't be determined without actually being there.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 05, 2020, 08:45:05 PM
A blind facing in the direction of some houses doesn't necessarily mean someone would be shooting directly at a house. It's something you'd probably have to see in person to really know. But just to say it's not safe because the direction a blind is facing just seems to me like something that can't be determined without actually being there.

Well y see pretty clear from the house and had gathers quite a few on lookers. But it is true I wasn’t in the blind. The blind wasn’t there this morning.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: Salmonmoocher12 on October 05, 2020, 08:48:20 PM
 :yeah:
Some people are paranoid just hearing a gun shot. Might have been 100% legal and 100% safe.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: Buzz2401 on October 05, 2020, 09:13:07 PM
NRA says maximum range for .308 is 2.6 miles.  The problem with hunting in places with a bunch of houses is that it can be very hard to ensure there isn't a house, car, person, livestock, pets, etc within 2.6 miles in any direction you might want to take a shot.  If the 2.6 mile line leaves the property you are hunting it can be incredibly difficult to determine if the shot is safe.

https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2019/11/7/gun-safety-ammunition-maximum-range/ (https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2019/11/7/gun-safety-ammunition-maximum-range/)
If we put a 2.6 mile limit for rifles towards any housing there would be very little hunting ground open to a modern firearm in WA.
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: stw on October 06, 2020, 03:45:19 AM
The way this is looking People would have a hay day if they drove around my town blinds on 2 acre lots on up just because a blind facing a house doesn't mean there shoot at the house most of the blinds have openings all away around them if they don't still doesn't mean there shooting towards someone's house in royal king county you can shoot your rifle muzzleloader off as long as your bullet don't leave your property that's in king county anyways . Most of the elk around my area get shot out pastures 5 acre lots . Elk comes through your field boom elk down .
Title: Re: Graham elk muzzy commotion
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on October 06, 2020, 05:57:06 AM
The way this is looking People would have a hay day if they drove around my town blinds on 2 acre lots on up just because a blind facing a house doesn't mean there shoot at the house most of the blinds have openings all away around them if they don't still doesn't mean there shooting towards someone's house in royal king county you can shoot your rifle muzzleloader off as long as your bullet don't leave your property that's in king county anyways . Most of the elk around my area get shot out pastures 5 acre lots . Elk comes through your field boom elk down .

Very good point. Never knew that. I hope they filled there tag!
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