Post by: HillHound on November 16, 2020, 11:26:11 AM
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Post by: Dan-o on December 06, 2020, 06:41:19 PM
Well, I won't post the pic because I'm sure I'd get banned or this locked, but was sent a pic of two guys with rights that have at least 5 mule deer bucks filling the bed of their truck in the snow. That's all I'll say for now.
You don't get banned for posting a pic.
Post by: trophyhunt on December 06, 2020, 06:50:52 PM
for the record, I know nothing about the pic.Well, I won't post the pic because I'm sure I'd get banned or this locked, but was sent a pic of two guys with rights that have at least 5 mule deer bucks filling the bed of their truck in the snow. That's all I'll say for now.
You don't get banned for posting a pic.
Post by: jstone on December 06, 2020, 06:57:12 PM
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Post by: MADMAX on December 06, 2020, 07:04:40 PM
Nothing to see here
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Post by: HillHound on December 06, 2020, 08:37:06 PM
for the record, I know nothing about the pic.Well, I won't post the pic because I'm sure I'd get banned or this locked, but was sent a pic of two guys with rights that have at least 5 mule deer bucks filling the bed of their truck in the snow. That's all I'll say for now.Well I guess that picture about wraps up the thread, the back of a red truck was the correct answer
You don't get banned for posting a pic.
Post by: Harbor_hunter on December 06, 2020, 08:45:01 PM
Post by: BreezyBear on December 06, 2020, 08:56:22 PM
Absolutely disgusting.
:yeah:
Post by: Timberstalker on December 07, 2020, 06:10:21 AM
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Post by: fishngamereaper on December 07, 2020, 07:21:22 AM
I'm assuming there are three guys since someone had to take the pic. So 4 deer and an elk from what I can see. Ok, if this is their only trip of the year I'm ok with the harvest ratio. Looks like a good week in hunting camp for some guys. Especially if you have an extra tag. Or a weekend trip to Idaho. :twocents:
What we don't know and is the part that I easily get worked up about.
Is it a point restriction area.? If so they should follow the management rules set in place to better the quality of the herds.
Is it their only trip of the year or does this happen every weekend.?
We probably will never know the answer to the second question.
If I lived in the Burg I would make every attempt to document the possible overharvest of game in wintering areas by the same individuals. That's the only thing that might help bring change to the possible use and abuse of big game in the area.
Post by: trophyhunt on December 07, 2020, 07:23:35 AM
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Post by: HillHound on December 07, 2020, 10:19:07 AM
Taking a step back from emotion and looking at this as it is.I have documented and given game wardens license plates all with the same response, yep natives nothing we can do.
I'm assuming there are three guys since someone had to take the pic. So 4 deer and an elk from what I can see. Ok, if this is their only trip of the year I'm ok with the harvest ratio. Looks like a good week in hunting camp for some guys. Especially if you have an extra tag. Or a weekend trip to Idaho. :twocents:
What we don't know and is the part that I easily get worked up about.
Is it a point restriction area.? If so they should follow the management rules set in place to better the quality of the herds.
Is it their only trip of the year or does this happen every weekend.?
We probably will never know the answer to the second question.
If I lived in the Burg I would make every attempt to document the possible overharvest of game in wintering areas by the same individuals. That's the only thing that might help bring change to the possible use and abuse of big game in the area.
Post by: MAVsled on December 07, 2020, 11:36:01 AM
Driving up the road, saw flat bed truck in GMU360 with 5 elk piled on. Yep, those with special rights!
not the first time the I've witnessed a drive-by over the years.
only wish I had stopped, got out of my truck and taken cell pic. But they kept driving on down the 1503 road toward the 1500 road intersect about a mile+ further down.
Post by: Naches Sportsman on December 07, 2020, 11:57:53 AM
Early December 2019, was scouting my usual rifle unit. Taking a day's break from late archery elk in 352.
Driving up the road, saw flat bed truck in GMU360 with 5 elk piled on. Yep, those with special rights!
not the first time the I've witnessed a drive-by over the years.
only wish I had stopped, got out of my truck and taken cell pic. But they kept driving on down the 1503 road toward the 1500 road intersect about a mile+ further down.
Saw an Indian in a white Toyota Tacoma with 2 bucks in the back this fall on the 1500 road.
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 07, 2020, 12:09:27 PM
Taking a step back from emotion and looking at this as it is.I have documented and given game wardens license plates all with the same response, yep natives nothing we can do.
I'm assuming there are three guys since someone had to take the pic. So 4 deer and an elk from what I can see. Ok, if this is their only trip of the year I'm ok with the harvest ratio. Looks like a good week in hunting camp for some guys. Especially if you have an extra tag. Or a weekend trip to Idaho. :twocents:
What we don't know and is the part that I easily get worked up about.
Is it a point restriction area.? If so they should follow the management rules set in place to better the quality of the herds.
Is it their only trip of the year or does this happen every weekend.?
We probably will never know the answer to the second question.
If I lived in the Burg I would make every attempt to document the possible overharvest of game in wintering areas by the same individuals. That's the only thing that might help bring change to the possible use and abuse of big game in the area.
And that will continue. We all know WDFW can't do a thing.
But maybe approaching the tribes about certain repeat harvesters would be an option with documentation.
Or documenting the heck out it and submitting some info to the press.
I'm just as frustrated as everyone else but these threads come up every year. Sure if feels good to vent and pass along some info, watch for this truck, keep an eye on that dude...etc. But what has it accomplished over the years, besides alienating some of the tribal members we have on this site that could possibly make a difference where most of us can't. :twocents:
Post by: Bucks2Ducks on December 07, 2020, 02:43:29 PM
Yeah you have some good points. WDFW works for us, the ones who spend hundreds of dollars every year on licenses and tags, but they wont defend us. They will take the path of least resistance, we need to make sure the that path isn't right over the top of the 99% of hunters following liberal seasons and harvest regulations.Taking a step back from emotion and looking at this as it is.I have documented and given game wardens license plates all with the same response, yep natives nothing we can do.
I'm assuming there are three guys since someone had to take the pic. So 4 deer and an elk from what I can see. Ok, if this is their only trip of the year I'm ok with the harvest ratio. Looks like a good week in hunting camp for some guys. Especially if you have an extra tag. Or a weekend trip to Idaho. :twocents:
What we don't know and is the part that I easily get worked up about.
Is it a point restriction area.? If so they should follow the management rules set in place to better the quality of the herds.
Is it their only trip of the year or does this happen every weekend.?
We probably will never know the answer to the second question.
If I lived in the Burg I would make every attempt to document the possible overharvest of game in wintering areas by the same individuals. That's the only thing that might help bring change to the possible use and abuse of big game in the area.
And that will continue. We all know WDFW can't do a thing.
But maybe approaching the tribes about certain repeat harvesters would be an option with documentation.
Or documenting the heck out it and submitting some info to the press.
I'm just as frustrated as everyone else but these threads come up every year. Sure if feels good to vent and pass along some info, watch for this truck, keep an eye on that dude...etc. But what has it accomplished over the years, besides alienating some of the tribal members we have on this site that could possibly make a difference where most of us can't. :twocents:
We need politicians and media to back us on equal hunting rights off reservations, I don't know how that happens in this state or what the final straw is.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 07, 2020, 04:22:08 PM
Post by: buckfvr on December 07, 2020, 04:32:16 PM
That is my personal perspective gained from many conversations about it over the last 40 years.
Post by: bobcat on December 07, 2020, 04:32:30 PM
Post by: buckfvr on December 07, 2020, 04:39:15 PM
The Yakama tribe kills deer and elk year around with absolutely no limits on how many each person can take. Some of them have jerky businesses. It's ridiculous. I think wolves are less of a problem than a group of people who hunt year around in order to keep a jerky business supplied with meat.
:yeah:
Tip of the ice berg.
Post by: ThurstonCokid on December 07, 2020, 04:42:12 PM
The Yakama tribe kills deer and elk year around with absolutely no limits on how many each person can take. Some of them have jerky businesses. It's ridiculous. I think wolves are less of a problem than a group of people who hunt year around in order to keep a jerky business supplied with meat.I’d have to say you’re spot on with this.. shooting wintering/vulnerable animals. Then harvesting animals and bumping critters during harsh months is detrimental to survival rates. Reasons why shed hunting in certain areas have dates.
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Post by: trophyhunt on December 07, 2020, 05:42:41 PM