Post by: rasbo on November 22, 2020, 06:42:52 AM
Post by: CP on November 22, 2020, 07:11:07 AM
Pros:
Starts and idles better
Quieter
Better gas mileage, hence better range
No mixing oil
No stink
No smoke cloud
Cons:
A bit heaver
I have to change the oil every now and then
Post by: JKEEN33 on November 22, 2020, 07:18:52 AM
Post by: rasbo on November 22, 2020, 08:23:46 AM
I have. Went from a 2 stroke Evinrude 70hp to a 4 stroke Suzuki 70hp on a 17’ Arima. My only regret is that I waited so long to make the switch.70 evinrude on my boat also,did speed or getting up on a plane change..
Pros:
Starts and idles better
Quieter
Better gas mileage, hence better range
No mixing oil
No stink
No smoke cloud
Cons:
A bit heaver
I have to change the oil every now and then
Post by: Encore 280 on November 22, 2020, 08:58:54 AM
Post by: CP on November 22, 2020, 09:15:51 AM
I have. Went from a 2 stroke Evinrude 70hp to a 4 stroke Suzuki 70hp on a 17’ Arima. My only regret is that I waited so long to make the switch.70 evinrude on my boat also,did speed or getting up on a plane change..
Pros:
Starts and idles better
Quieter
Better gas mileage, hence better range
No mixing oil
No stink
No smoke cloud
Cons:
A bit heaver
I have to change the oil every now and then
The Suzuki is a tad faster at top speed. I did have to add a hydrofoil to help get on plane and counter the extra weight. My Arima is very stern heavy; 35 gals of gas, battery, kicker and downriggers are all in the stern.
Post by: Special T on November 22, 2020, 09:24:41 AM
I replaced it with a 2020 Suzuki 4 stroke. Its great because It consumes much less fuel Id dare say half. Low speed use is great, and even tho it has an electric start hand pull is easy. The down side is it is heavy, and the jump back up to 25 hp would have added another 80lbs I can only get the boat up on a plane if it is just me the dog and a bag of decoys and the dog and decoys are in the front. Any more weight and it wont fully plane. Several of my friends have the same motor and didnt experience as big a problem because they have lighter V styled hulls.
Post by: KFhunter on November 22, 2020, 09:31:16 AM
The zuke has been great, but the weight is a bit much on the back. Think I need to brace it up a bit!
On an older kalamath 16' boat
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 22, 2020, 09:54:33 AM
Yamaha or Zuk. Plenty of power to weight ratio. For larger motors play with Prop pitch depending on your needs.
I wouldn't buy a motor from a manufacture that went out of business. Parts will become impossible to find.
Post by: Encore 280 on November 22, 2020, 11:43:20 AM
Post by: Stein on November 22, 2020, 12:02:53 PM
Post by: Alchase on November 22, 2020, 07:38:33 PM
My 15 hp Yamaha 4-stroke, could troll at 0.5 mph. Hit 26 mph with four adults in my 13 ft Smokercraft. And 5 gallons of gas would last half the fishing season.
The single best feature, I did not have to inhale 2-stroke smoke all day.
Post by: metlhead on November 22, 2020, 07:45:21 PM
Post by: jamesfromseattle on November 22, 2020, 10:36:38 PM
Post by: rasbo on November 23, 2020, 03:26:13 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 23, 2020, 05:21:34 AM
Post by: C-Money on November 23, 2020, 06:43:39 AM
Post by: rasbo on November 24, 2020, 02:13:58 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 24, 2020, 07:14:18 AM
Definitely on the high side. Heck you can get yami controls for 300-350 on line.
Post by: Stein on November 24, 2020, 08:21:15 AM
Post by: C-Money on November 24, 2020, 08:26:57 AM
Post by: Stein on November 24, 2020, 08:29:19 AM
I don't think they make a 70 though, looks like they jump from 60 to 75.
Honestly, I think the big names probably all make great engines today.
Post by: rasbo on November 24, 2020, 07:05:06 PM
Post by: Blacklab on November 24, 2020, 07:30:32 PM
Post by: jamesfromseattle on November 24, 2020, 09:32:13 PM
I have a 2016 Merc 90 CT, best engine I have ever owned. I have it bluetooth to my phone and the app gives me all the instant readouts I don't need but like to look at as well as storing the maintenance and prompting at the right intervals. Great power, easy start, runs like perfect.
I don't think they make a 70 though, looks like they jump from 60 to 75.
Honestly, I think the big names probably all make great engines today.
Yeah, and I think 75 is just a detuned 90 so the weight to HP ratio isn’t great. At least a few years ago when I last looked for an engine in that range the Yamaha was the only one that filled the “relatively light” 70 HP niche. Everything else was a heavy detuned 90. And at that point you might as well just go with a 90.
I agree all the big brands make good outboards now. I shop based on weight rather than brand loyalty these days.
Post by: rasbo on November 25, 2020, 03:31:23 AM
Top dollar for yams if you can get them. Thought they were on backorder because of demand. :twocents:😉🥃🇺🇸they are,one dealer said none in country right. Now
Post by: rasbo on November 25, 2020, 03:33:32 AM
70 Yamaha is 100lbs lighter than honda,if I buy a new motor Yamaha will be the one I purchase. Weight is paramount to meI have a 2016 Merc 90 CT, best engine I have ever owned. I have it bluetooth to my phone and the app gives me all the instant readouts I don't need but like to look at as well as storing the maintenance and prompting at the right intervals. Great power, easy start, runs like perfect.
I don't think they make a 70 though, looks like they jump from 60 to 75.
Honestly, I think the big names probably all make great engines today.
Yeah, and I think 75 is just a detuned 90 so the weight to HP ratio isn’t great. At least a few years ago when I last looked for an engine in that range the Yamaha was the only one that filled the “relatively light” 70 HP niche. Everything else was a heavy detuned 90. And at that point you might as well just go with a 90.
I agree all the big brands make good outboards now. I shop based on weight rather than brand loyalty these days.
Post by: Blacklab on December 03, 2020, 05:56:03 PM
Post by: rasbo on December 04, 2020, 11:09:33 AM
Having any luck rasbo? 😉🥃🇺🇸not yet,but I'm liking Clark marine in colville so far
Post by: Cylvertip on December 04, 2020, 12:54:59 PM
Do some searching if you haven't already for power comparisons between the motors, even down to the year for any given model. Not only are there weight differences , but a 70 hp from one company may not actually have as much power as one from another. There is, or at least their used to be some wide ranging margins on hp ratings. One could actually be under by 10% or so while another could be over by the same amount. I have been out of the Marine Industry for quite a while, but I wouldn't doubt that is still the case. Hell it even happens inside the same brand. A two stroke vs a 4 that both are stated as the same hp could vary too from inside the same company.
With all that is available online these days, there has got to be someone that has done the head to head comparisons. Maybe even Consumer Reports or more likely Boat Test (assuming they are still in publication).
Eric
Post by: Stein on December 04, 2020, 01:11:55 PM
I have a 2016 Merc 90 CT, best engine I have ever owned. I have it bluetooth to my phone and the app gives me all the instant readouts I don't need but like to look at as well as storing the maintenance and prompting at the right intervals. Great power, easy start, runs like perfect.
I don't think they make a 70 though, looks like they jump from 60 to 75.
Honestly, I think the big names probably all make great engines today.
Yeah, and I think 75 is just a detuned 90 so the weight to HP ratio isn’t great. At least a few years ago when I last looked for an engine in that range the Yamaha was the only one that filled the “relatively light” 70 HP niche. Everything else was a heavy detuned 90. And at that point you might as well just go with a 90.
I agree all the big brands make good outboards now. I shop based on weight rather than brand loyalty these days.
Not sure about the grey ones, but the black 90 is the same block and cowling size as the 115. Different crank, computer and a few other things, but same general size and weight.
Post by: Blacklab on December 04, 2020, 03:54:31 PM
Having any luck rasbo? 😉🥃🇺🇸not yet,but I'm liking Clark marine in colville so far
Good luck😉🥃🇺🇸