Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: JJB11B on November 26, 2020, 09:33:04 AM
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I have a Ruger All Weather M77 with the boat paddle stock, it's chambered in .243 and it is the most innacurate gun I own. I cannot find anything it likes to shoot. I was thinking about rebarreling it in something like 243AI or 260 Rem, or maybe even 22-250 with a fast twist. Does anyone know a smith that would rebarrel and blueprint my rifle? I did some quick looking on youtube and I didnt see a single video of anyone building a M77
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Not all smiths are tooled up to do all actions but some that may be able to help you out and I know does good work would be Karl Kampfeld, Travis Redell, and Benchmark Barrels. For what you have, those would be my first three choices.
https://rbrosrifles.com/
http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/boltfluting0914_002.htm
http://benchmark-barrels.com/Benchmark_Barrels_Home.html
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Not all smiths are tooled up to do all actions but some that may be able to help you out and I know does good work would be Karl Kampfeld, Travis Redell, and Benchmark Barrels. For what you have, those would be my first three choices.
https://rbrosrifles.com/
http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/boltfluting0914_002.htm
http://benchmark-barrels.com/Benchmark_Barrels_Home.html
I had intended to ask Travis but I have heard he isn't doing that kind of work anymore, although I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask him.
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I wouldn't blue print it. I'd just rebarrel. :twocents:
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Not all smiths are tooled up to do all actions but some that may be able to help you out and I know does good work would be Karl Kampfeld, Travis Redell, and Benchmark Barrels. For what you have, those would be my first three choices.
https://rbrosrifles.com/
http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/boltfluting0914_002.htm
http://benchmark-barrels.com/Benchmark_Barrels_Home.html
I had intended to ask Travis but I have heard he isn't doing that kind of work anymore, although I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask him.
If Travis can't hook your up give Kampfeld Custom a call Karl does excellent work, is an extremely nice guy, and has some of the fastest turn around times of anyone I've ever used.
To each his own, but I would never rebarrel a factory action without having it trued up first. For me, it's worth the extra money to eliminate any potential issue/s and many gunsmiths won't give you an accuracy guarantee if you don't true the receiver.
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Sent a message to a friend who found a guy in Id. or Mt. that does a lot of work on M77s, so when/if I hear from him I will post it up. I do know he has several very nice M77s and he wanted to use one to build off and the information he was given made him decide to abandon the idea. :dunno:
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Sent a message to a friend who found a guy in Id. or Mt. that does a lot of work on M77s, so when/if I hear from him I will post it up. I do know he has several very nice M77s and he wanted to use one to build off and the information he was given made him decide to abandon the idea. :dunno:
thanks guys
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How many times has the stock been off? I bought a M77 in the classifieds section years ago as a project. Seller told me best the gun would do was 4 inches with handloads. Bought for 300 bucks, cleaned it about 2 hours to get what seemed like all the copper ever shot through it out. Bought 1/4 drive inch pounds torque wrench and reassembled to spec...... 3/4 inch groups with Remington core lock 130 grainers. Sometimes starting simple can reveal the fix that is easy. My former coworker is a machinest and amateur smith , his idea to start with deep clean and factory spec reset.
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I did the deep clean, relieved the stock so that it is free floated and re assembled, no noticeable improvement
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Benchmark barrels in Arlington can rebarrel it.
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I did the deep clean, relieved the stock so that it is free floated and re assembled, no noticeable improvement
Aren’t those m77’s designed to have some forend pressure?
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Better off selling for scrap prices. Put the $2 towards a gun that shoots good out of the box. I have a M77 MKII in .270 and it’s hands down the most inaccurate gun I’ve ever shot. We’re talking paper plate size groups at 100 yards. I gave up on it and moved on. Much happier since doing so.
It’s not a bad 50 yard and less gun, but Bowtech has that market covered.
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A trigger job turned the shotgun patterns I got out of my boat paddle 30-06 into a 1” gun.
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Dropped another big buck this year with one shot from a M77 and Nosler Partition. It’s never needed a follow up shot. :twocents:
I’ve got a project M77 I’m working on and am going with a Hart barrel.
https://www.hartbarrels.com/Default.asp
They do rebarreling.
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They certainly have their followers. If you like projects, they fit the criteria.
I think the tang safety m77s were better. Never have been impressed with the newer ones.
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They certainly have their followers. If you like projects, they fit the criteria.
I think the tang safety m77s were better. Never have been impressed with the newer ones.
All but two of mine are M77’s (Tang) and shoot great, the project is a MkII.
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I had a 77 all-weather, boat paddle stock in 300 win mag that didn't shoot well. I put a Hogue stock and dropped in an aftermarket trigger and was shooting 1 MOA all day with factory ammo.
I ended up giving the gun back to the guy as a holiday gift...he sold it to me because he was in a tight spot financially.
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Hopefully this one never needs to be rebarrelled. Newer than the boat paddle stock version.
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Hopefully this one never needs to be rebarrelled. Newer than the boat paddle stock version.
hawkeye? i picked one of those up as an impulse purchase in a moment of temporary insanity (after all, what the heck an i going to use a .375 for?) :chuckle: and it's a fantastic rifle. great rifle, great stock, the only thing that bothers me about it is that the detents on the safety are kind of "mushy" compared to the positive clicks on my mkii.
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My 270 has the paddle stock....tack driver.
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Hopefully this one never needs to be rebarrelled. Newer than the boat paddle stock version.
hawkeye? i picked one of those up as an impulse purchase in a moment of temporary insanity (after all, what the heck an i going to use a .375 for?) :chuckle: and it's a fantastic rifle. great rifle, great stock, the only thing that bothers me about it is that the detents on the safety are kind of "mushy" compared to the positive clicks on my mkii.
One of the later year MKII All Weather before they changed to Hawkeye. Got it 20 years ago. Put well over 2000 rounds through it and it just keeps on hammering.
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the cost to re-barrel is approaching value of rifle (i think). they are "hunting made" with the marginal trigger adjustments of m77's, some year series you cant even get a :twocents: custom trigger to adjust (like a timney), may be worth your value to just replace with something a bit more "modern". if you have attachment :dunno: to this rifle then for sure, keep it and work it...but