Post by: 7mmfan on November 30, 2020, 08:56:50 AM
Requirements:
1 - Freestanding, not floorless
2 - Decent sized vestibule, big enough for pack and gun anyway. Two vestibules would be ideal.
3 - Under $500
4 - Lighter is better, but I understand the tradeoff
I've seen some REI, Big Agnes, Nemo, and other brand tents that all seem to fit the criteria, so looking for peoples opinions based on actual experience.
Thanks,
Rory
Post by: kselkhunter on November 30, 2020, 09:06:12 AM
If just 3 season tent, Big Agnes makes good products. I have the Fly Creek UL3 model and it's nice and roomy. I also have a MSR Hubba Hubba and it's also good quality. Neither do I take if there is a chance for multiple inches of snow. I take the Seek Outside tipi for snow hunts. I also have various REI, Kelty, etc. backpacking tents and the Big Agnes and MSR brands are better quality.
With the Big Agnes Fly Creek UL3 you don't need a vestibule. Plenty of room inside for rifle and pack. And very lightweight for the size.
Post by: 7mmfan on November 30, 2020, 09:15:23 AM
Post by: Mtnwalker on November 30, 2020, 09:23:53 AM
Post by: kselkhunter on November 30, 2020, 09:35:41 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 30, 2020, 10:01:38 AM
Post by: cbond3318 on November 30, 2020, 10:42:24 AM
Post by: highside74 on November 30, 2020, 10:45:32 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 30, 2020, 11:07:45 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 30, 2020, 11:08:14 AM
Let me know if he gets into the teepee game, I know a custom stove builder. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Could probably store your tipi in your stove! Not sure why we didn't think about that last time.
Post by: highside74 on November 30, 2020, 11:23:47 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 30, 2020, 11:31:11 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 30, 2020, 11:38:13 AM
I bought a kuiu this last year. I liked it. Way more room than my REI, and better for riding out a storm.
Did you get the Storm Star or the Mountain Star?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 30, 2020, 11:57:52 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 30, 2020, 04:00:02 PM
I haven't researched a bunch since I purchased ten years ago, but the floor and rainfly are 1500 and 1700 mm. Pretty aggressive for a 3 season tent. Compared to the fly creek or copper spur it's not even in the same category IMO and I own both. A bit on the heavy side, but twin doors and vestibules make it comfy and I have rode out significant weather including snow in it. Only complaint beside weight is the pole setup. Not the most straightforward. Otherwise been an awesome tent.
Post by: Platensek-po on November 30, 2020, 04:23:10 PM
Post by: huntnnw on November 30, 2020, 05:12:34 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 30, 2020, 07:26:08 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 30, 2020, 08:04:01 PM
Post by: highside74 on November 30, 2020, 08:14:50 PM
Now I've never used one with a stove but if I'm by myself without a stove I want a normal tent design.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 30, 2020, 08:16:47 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 30, 2020, 08:20:18 PM
I thought I wanted floorless until I used it. No thanks.This.
Now I've never used one with a stove but if I'm by myself without a stove I want a normal tent design.
Post by: highside74 on November 30, 2020, 08:54:00 PM
Got him narrowed down to the Kuiu Stormstar, Copper Spur UL2, or a Luxe Minipeak XL. I may have him leaning floorless now, which I personally think is a good decision for him.
Those are great choices. My thought is that the Kuiu is double the weight of the copper spur to carry around on the off chance that he might need a four season for an October snow. I'd take my chances and carry the Copper Spur.
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 30, 2020, 09:20:02 PM
Post by: huntnnw on December 01, 2020, 01:43:16 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 01, 2020, 05:34:43 AM
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 01, 2020, 07:23:44 AM
I couldn’t imagine a floor less tent in rain or snowy conditions. No thanks . I’ll carry an extra 10 oz for a floor
It can go both ways. With proper setup it’s also nice to not have water puddling or mud tracking in that comes with a traditional floored tent in those conditions
Post by: baker5150 on December 01, 2020, 08:11:28 AM
I couldn’t imagine a floor less tent in rain or snowy conditions. No thanks . I’ll carry an extra 10 oz for a floor
It can go both ways. With proper setup it’s also nice to not have water puddling or mud tracking in that comes with a traditional floored tent in those conditions
Can't beat a floorless tipi with a stove and a 3/4 or 1/2 nest.
More versatile than any other option IMO.
Post by: 7mmfan on December 01, 2020, 08:42:02 AM
What terrain is he hunting in mainly? There is no way I would run a back packing floorless shelter in western wa, north idaho etc..... without a stove. Wet and muddy not great drainage, it's a mess. Even with a stove it will limit pitch locations and can still be a nightmare to get dry. I love tipi type shelters, but like everything else they have limitations.
This tent would mainly be used in East/Central Idaho, so generally dry when we're there, but every year we get some form of rain/snow/cold. This year we had an extended period of high winds, cold, and some snow and rain. His current tent did fine, but he saw the writing on the wall. I was camped 10' from him in my tipi with stove and he ended up storing all his stuff in my tent to get it dry and keep it dry. My guess is he would really like the Minipeak XL with a nest and stove. Even just a 1 man bathtub floor changes the whole thing as you don't have to worry about water in your sleeping area anymore.
His argument is that he likes the simplicity of a freestanding tent, which I understand, but man you don't get a whole lot simpler than a tipi with 4 corner stakes and center pole. You can have the tent erect in 1 minute and all your gear in the dry if you're setting up in inclement weather.
Either way, everyone has been a good help with this subject so far and I think I was able to narrow it down to 3 legitimate shelters that offer different pros and cons and will give us something to talk about. :tup:
Post by: kselkhunter on December 01, 2020, 09:01:54 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on December 01, 2020, 09:11:06 AM
What terrain is he hunting in mainly? There is no way I would run a back packing floorless shelter in western wa, north idaho etc..... without a stove. Wet and muddy not great drainage, it's a mess. Even with a stove it will limit pitch locations and can still be a nightmare to get dry. I love tipi type shelters, but like everything else they have limitations.
This tent would mainly be used in East/Central Idaho, so generally dry when we're there, but every year we get some form of rain/snow/cold. This year we had an extended period of high winds, cold, and some snow and rain. His current tent did fine, but he saw the writing on the wall. I was camped 10' from him in my tipi with stove and he ended up storing all his stuff in my tent to get it dry and keep it dry. My guess is he would really like the Minipeak XL with a nest and stove. Even just a 1 man bathtub floor changes the whole thing as you don't have to worry about water in your sleeping area anymore.
His argument is that he likes the simplicity of a freestanding tent, which I understand, but man you don't get a whole lot simpler than a tipi with 4 corner stakes and center pole. You can have the tent erect in 1 minute and all your gear in the dry if you're setting up in inclement weather.
Either way, everyone has been a good help with this subject so far and I think I was able to narrow it down to 3 legitimate shelters that offer different pros and cons and will give us something to talk about. :tup:
That's huge. I would for sure lean hard for floorless and if really wanting comfort a stove. I use a tipi in the same areas of Idaho from September thru November it's perfect.
Post by: PacificNWhunter on December 01, 2020, 10:09:57 AM
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