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Title: Meat grade reminder
Post by: Blacklab on December 16, 2020, 12:21:19 PM: I was at a local Winco this morning. They had this big roast out. After looking at it I thought I should share. If you look close. The labeling says prime rib roast select grade. This is a marketing ploy. It might look like a prime rib but it is not. It is a rib roast that is select grade quality. Our USDA meat grades are as follows prime, choice, and select. Make sure you find out the grade of meat and not just a label. 😉🥃🇺🇸L
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: Stein on December 16, 2020, 01:02:00 PM: Yeah, we just picked up our Prime yesterday and I noticed it was hard to tell them apart because they were in a case mixed in with Choice. It was easier to look at the price which was in big letters rather than the tiny, smudged print telling you what it actually was.
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Post by: grundy53 on December 16, 2020, 01:03:40 PM: They've been doing that for years. I had this argument with my wife a couple of years ago. I told her it wasn't a a prime rib she said "yes it is. Read the label".... apparently select grade prime rib is a thing....

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Post by: timberfaller on December 16, 2020, 01:29:18 PM: Love marketing ploys!! Seen it today at a local box store! Christmas "sale" price was the regular price on the item all last year! BUT the price advertised it normally sold for was higher SO it LOOKED like it was on sale!!

However I did see some prices that were "sale" merited as legit, but not by much.

Kinda explains why some people have fallen victims for "shut up and wear a mask" "stay home stay safe"! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: CP on December 16, 2020, 02:40:12 PM: It’s my understanding that “Prime Rib” is a cut, not a grade.
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Post by: syoungs on December 16, 2020, 02:47:43 PM: Quote from: CP on December 16, 2020, 02:40:12 PM
It’s my understanding that “Prime Rib” is a cut, not a grade.

it is. They should really be calling it a "rib roast", instead of prime rib, but prime rib sure sells better to the un-informed.
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: CP on December 16, 2020, 02:51:25 PM: Smart Foodservice Warehouse in Everett usually has choice grade standing rib roasts. I need to get up there and get one. :drool:

I don't know where you can find prime
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: NRA4LIFE on December 16, 2020, 02:55:26 PM: Costco has USDA prime. That's where we get ours every year. B&E meats usually has them too.
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Post by: Stein on December 16, 2020, 03:45:42 PM: Costco has prime and choice, price difference isn't much. Bone in and bone out.
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Post by: Buzz2401 on December 16, 2020, 04:06:14 PM: I've had Choice and Prime many times and don't find Prime to be worth the extra money. I have had many choices's that were better then other Primes'. That being said how you cook it makes a huge difference. And as others have said it is a rib roast so anybody that labels it as a Select or Choice "Prime Rib" is just trying to sell their lower grade meat under false pretenses.
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Post by: Stein on December 16, 2020, 04:16:38 PM: Costco prime is the bomb, I've eaten at many well known places while on business trips and the cold smoke, sous vide, torch on a Costco prime is better than anything I've had.
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Post by: NRA4LIFE on December 16, 2020, 04:23:13 PM: I agree. All their prime steaks are great as well. Just had a couple ribeyes the other night. They were fantastic.
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Post by: Stein on December 16, 2020, 04:27:04 PM: They have these online too, I'm sure a good option if you can afford $107 a pound. Free shipping so you save a bit there. :chuckle:

https://www.costco.com/japanese-wagyu-boneless-ribeye-roast%2c-a5-grade%2c-12-lbs.product.100311435.html
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: kenzmad on December 16, 2020, 05:26:05 PM: Truth in advertising leaves something to be desired. Was talking to the Safeway meat counter lady about their Wild Caught Keta Salmon. She said it was a good deal at $6.99/ pound.
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: carlyoungs on December 16, 2020, 05:39:22 PM: It would be nice if they labeled it as it should be. Dog Fish for $6.99 a pound. Almost as bad as Atlantic Farm raised salmon for $12.99 a pound.
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Post by: NOCK NOCK on December 16, 2020, 05:57:57 PM: Couple drinks beforehand and Prime & Choice all taste the same. :chuckle:
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Post by: Buckjunkie on December 16, 2020, 06:35:27 PM: 3.98/lb should tell you everything you need to know
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Post by: Angry Perch on December 16, 2020, 08:42:48 PM: Quote from: NRA4LIFE on December 16, 2020, 04:23:13 PM
I agree. All their prime steaks are great as well. Just had a couple ribeyes the other night. They were fantastic.
Have you tried the ribeye caps? Ridiculous!
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: Stein on December 16, 2020, 09:01:57 PM: Quote from: Buckjunkie on December 16, 2020, 06:35:27 PM
3.98/lb should tell you everything you need to know

:chuckle:

They should grind it into burger, it would increase the value to $4.49/lb.
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: Angry Perch on December 16, 2020, 09:20:19 PM: A little off topic, but anymore, I don't go looking for a certain steak or grade. I go to Costco and see what talks to me. If the Choice Ribeyes have good marbling, I'm in. Sometimes it's fillets. If the Prime sirloins are well marbled, they are fantastic, and a great buy. But it's a little tougher to see inside a rib roast.
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Post by: spookgus on December 16, 2020, 09:49:07 PM: Are the ribeye caps you speak of, sold separately at Costco? My wife just eats the eye so I get a cap for my next day’s lunch.
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: Angry Perch on December 16, 2020, 10:02:12 PM: Quote from: spookgus on December 16, 2020, 09:49:07 PM
Are the ribeye caps you speak of, sold separately at Costco? My wife just eats the eye so I get a cap for my next day’s lunch.

Yep. That fatty, amazing outside strip. Possibly the best piece of the cow. They pinwheel them and tie them into steaks. I recommend uncoiling them and putting the strips on skewers, and a minute on a wicked hot grill. God it's good.

Oh, and your wife is crazy! But you're the beneficiary! :chuckle:
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Post by: smdave on December 17, 2020, 01:04:44 AM: You can barely buy hamburger for that price, it would make great summer sausage.
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Post by: muledhunter on December 17, 2020, 02:18:25 AM: Costco uses meat tenderizer on a lot of their cuts. I know they do on the caps. I buy brisket there but not steaks.
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Post by: Caseyd on December 17, 2020, 04:39:07 AM: Quote from: muledhunter on December 17, 2020, 02:18:25 AM
Costco uses meat tenderizer on a lot of their cuts. I know they do on the caps. I buy brisket there but not steaks.

Costco is one of the largest beef buyers/retailers in the US. You don’t hear of to many E. coli issues related to Costco so I don’t worry about some tiny needles poking my steak. Plus with medium everything’s dead :chuckle:
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: Bigshooter on December 17, 2020, 04:50:49 AM: It is important to understand that a “prime rib” does not necessarily mean that the meat is USDA graded prime beef. “prime rib” refers to the cut, not the grade. So a “prime rib” may be USDA graded prime, choice or select.

https://mrsteak.com/2020/09/02/prime-rib-vs-ribeye-whats-the-difference/

Prime rib is a cut not a grade. Many cuts have many different names. Know your cuts and know your grades.
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: Blacklab on December 17, 2020, 06:12:37 AM: Quote from: smdave on December 17, 2020, 01:04:44 AM
You can barely buy hamburger for that price, it would make great summer sausage.

That is something that makes you go hummmmmm😉🥃🇺🇸
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: nwwanderer on December 17, 2020, 06:17:17 AM: A tiny % is actually graded, inspected yes, graded no. It takes time and money, time is short and the packers want the money. Grade is mostly a factor of age and fat content, yield is proportion of fat to lean. Eating quality is much more complicated than both
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: NOCK NOCK on December 17, 2020, 06:34:15 AM: Quote from: Caseyd on December 17, 2020, 04:39:07 AM
Quote from: muledhunter on December 17, 2020, 02:18:25 AM
Costco uses meat tenderizer on a lot of their cuts. I know they do on the caps. I buy brisket there but not steaks.

Costco is one of the largest beef buyers/retailers in the US. You don’t hear of to many E. coli issues related to Costco so I don’t worry about some tiny needles poking my steak. Plus with medium everything’s dead :chuckle:

Including the taste! :'( Not sure if Muledhunter is talking tenderizer as in machined or MSG like powder, Guessing the later
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: Geoduck Duck Goose on December 17, 2020, 07:17:40 AM: Quote from: Angry Perch on December 16, 2020, 10:02:12 PM
Quote from: spookgus on December 16, 2020, 09:49:07 PM
Are the ribeye caps you speak of, sold separately at Costco? My wife just eats the eye so I get a cap for my next day’s lunch.

Yep. That fatty, amazing outside strip. Possibly the best piece of the cow. They pinwheel them and tie them into steaks. I recommend uncoiling them and putting the strips on skewers, and a minute on a wicked hot grill. God it's good.

Oh, and your wife is crazy! But you're the beneficiary! :chuckle:
Ribeye caps are among the most underrated cut on the cow without question. Also a big fan of the picanha--the top sirloin cap.
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: Angry Perch on December 17, 2020, 09:27:36 AM: Quote from: muledhunter on December 17, 2020, 02:18:25 AM
Costco uses meat tenderizer on a lot of their cuts. I know they do on the caps. I buy brisket there but not steaks.

Please clarify. They us "meat tenderizer" or "a meat tenderizer"?
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Post by: NRA4LIFE on December 17, 2020, 09:35:28 AM: Yes, I have tried the ribeye caps. Those are unreal. I also unroll them and cook them on the BGE super, super hot.
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Post by: Whitpirate on December 18, 2020, 06:10:52 AM: Costco blade tenderizes every cut in the case...wish they wouldn’t do it to the prime... that said I’ve bought them too.
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Post by: Caseyd on December 18, 2020, 04:51:45 PM: Blade not powder.
Title: Re: Meat grade reminder
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on December 18, 2020, 06:07:11 PM: Quote from: Geoduck Duck Goose on December 17, 2020, 07:17:40 AM
Quote from: Angry Perch on December 16, 2020, 10:02:12 PM
Quote from: spookgus on December 16, 2020, 09:49:07 PM
Are the ribeye caps you speak of, sold separately at Costco? My wife just eats the eye so I get a cap for my next day’s lunch.

Yep. That fatty, amazing outside strip. Possibly the best piece of the cow. They pinwheel them and tie them into steaks. I recommend uncoiling them and putting the strips on skewers, and a minute on a wicked hot grill. God it's good.

Oh, and your wife is crazy! But you're the beneficiary! :chuckle:
Ribeye caps are among the most underrated cut on the cow without question. Also a big fan of the picanha--the top sirloin cap.

Those are called the coulotte steak.. I was in the meat industry for 35 years and we were selling "coulotte steaks" back in the '70's. We cut all the steaks for the Keg & Butcher Baker Candlestick Maker Restaurants and they wanted center cut only. I bought 20,000 pounds of whole choice top sirloin a week. So, we had all the caps left over and marketed them as coulotte steaks. Pretty good steaks...they plump when you cook them.

And yes, Prime Rib is a cut...not a USDA grade. There are or used to be quite a few grades...Standard ( mostly dairy cows that were boned and ground for burger-- USDA Good -- No roll, a non- grade . the packers would have the federal meat inspector not roll the beef with a grade stamp--it was not quite marbled enough for a choice but better than a Good. That way they got more money for a "no Roll" than to roll it with the Good grade.-- USDA Choice -- and USDA Prime. I would put a Prime grade NY strip on the shelf in the cooler and leave it for 45 days before cutting it. Can't describe how fantastic that was..I was really spoiled.