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Other Activities => Fishing => Topic started by: AL WORRELLS KID on January 03, 2021, 08:21:26 PM
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If so, then perhaps you can remember dodging a few sunken logs as you crossed the Lake?
Here's an old picture of the Rafts of Logs on Lake Kapowsin back in the day, that might explain where they all came from! :chuckle:
Doug
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That's an awesome picture of the history of the lake. I do have a few memories from the lake over the years. But have quit going there in recent years due to having issues with people in that area. Hose lines getting cut for siphoning gas always is a bummer to come back to. Always makes it hard to get home after not having any fuel left.
Wish it wasn't like that out there because it could be an enjoyable lake for many adventures.
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Thats a great picture Doug. I can see where I grew up in that picture. If you have others I would appreciate seeing them.
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Yes very cool picture indeed. Do you happen to know what year that was?
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Fished it for years used to have some good kokanee Fishing.rolled up on stumps many times the campground from champion was a good spot also
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That was my childhood lake. Love fishing there. Trout fishing is great. Love the old history of it wish I could go back in time and see the old town.
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Very cool, so, stupid question here. Did they float the logs to the other end and then transport on trucks? I'm curious why didn't they just load them on trucks at the mill? Old logging pics are like porn to me, just spent a weekend in Idaho at a little cabin and the walls were full of old photos, TOUGH dudes back then!!!
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A lot of logs were flumed down to Kapowsin and never saw a truck. They did also haul down into Kapowsin too. I believe there were six separate sawmills and 2 cedar shake mills at the height of Kapowsins glory. When the mills started shutting down, they hauled into the reload with oversize trucks. The train took them from there out to Port of Tacoma.
Edit to say rail brought a lot of logs down as well.
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A lot of logs were flumed down to Kapowsin and never saw a truck. They did also haul down into Kapowsin too. I believe there were six separate sawmills and 2 cedar shake mills at the height of Kapowsins glory. When the mills started shutting down, they hauled into the reload with oversize trucks. The train took them from there out to Port of Tacoma.
Sweet, thanks man.
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This is a great coffee table book, awesome pictures and history. Not tons about kapowsin in it but lots of western Washington history.https://www.ebay.com/i/264679670025?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28 (https://www.ebay.com/i/264679670025?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28)
Here's a paper I've never seen before if anyone's interested in it. https://digitalcommons.cwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1734&context=etd (https://digitalcommons.cwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1734&context=etd)
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Some sections of the old flume are still in place. Imagine the board feet involved over those years.
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Memories of the old resort before it sank.
Even used Ericksons after that..
spent many years there in the 70's and later...
Hated when they started charging access to the woods behind it.
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Have not been back in years..
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Use to fish it a lot, then the tweekers and crackheads made it impossible to leave a vehicle I. The parking lot for more then 10 minutes
So much glass on the ground from broken windows.
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I used to fish out there quite a bit in my smaller bass boat. One day using the big motor I got stuck on a log out in the middle, and the stump was as wide as my boat. Had a heck of a time getting off that one..... It wasn't always the meth heads, also the 4 wheelers down there raising hell in the parking lot. Many times they would be spinning gravel all over the place, right down the side of your truck. Quit for a lot of years until they got the new ramp. Then its been easy pickins for anyone that wants to bust some windows for a bit of change. I left my doors unlocked....wish I had a pet Momba in there that would chase them *censored*s down....
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Me and my brothers always wanted to pull up some big logs and mill them to see what it looks like. I can only imagine
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My dad says they did a pretty big salvage years ago. It was before I can remember though. It would be really interesting to see some of those boards.
I camped on the island a lot as a kid, of course thats a big no no now. Ive been told there was a whore house on that island in the early days :yike:
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If your referring the a house that shares the name of a garden tool yes. From what I know and have been told. I grew up next to a gentleman that had been there since the 40s and his dad was there when it was a busy city and said there sure was. Would be so cool to safely dive the lake. So many lures :chuckle:
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In the mid to late 70s my dad owned a 2 man saw mill at 304th and Meridian just behind where the gas station is now. He cut short/small orders for Willows lumber until he passed in 1978. I was just 4 then and remember logs being dropped of and playing in sawdust piles as tall as the building. I also remember driving the logging roads behind the lake hunting with him the year he passed. As a boy of 8 or 9 a neighbor of ours would take my brother and I down 304th to where the train tracks are and we would park and walk down the tracks to a path to the edge of the lake. It was swampy and they had boards set out to get to an old log barge that was tied up to shore. We would night fish by lantern light for catfish often from that barge. It was an amazing place for a kid that age. A nice man from church would take us frogging with spotlights around the lake also. Slow going looking for dead heads and cruising the lake short netting toads. Good times.
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I've fished Kapowsin once or twice a summer for the past few years. Haven't had any trouble with my vehicle, but i've seen the piles of glass on the ground and it makes me nervous. I always feel relieved when I get back to my truck and find it undisturbed.
It's a fun lake to fish. I've had afternoons where i've caught and released 60+ bluegill, pumpkinseed, black crappie, rock bass, largemouth bass, yellow perch, and trout.
The parking lot is all paved now, so not much gravel to sling around. The parking lot is usually mostly full when I've been there.
I've seen some homeless camps in the bushes to the east of the public boat ramp and also along the eastern edge of the lake.
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My dad says they did a pretty big salvage years ago. It was before I can remember though. It would be really interesting to see some of those boards
I remember them pulling up a lot of logs, took out one we always fished by because the bluegill would run 10"+
Never figured out another one that was as consistent a producer of that size.
Even though they took out a lot of logs, it didn't seem to reduce the number much..
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If your referring the a house that shares the name of a garden tool yes. From what I know and have been told. I grew up next to a gentleman that had been there since the 40s and his dad was there when it was a busy city and said there sure was. Would be so cool to safely dive the lake. So many lures :chuckle:
I spent a lot of summer days finding lures and digging for old bottles down there. The house i grew up in was actually down next to the lake then moved up the hill later on. Built in 1908. The thieving has a been an issue for as long as I can remember, although I would say its gotten better.
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In the mid to late 70s my dad owned a 2 man saw mill at 304th and Meridian just behind where the gas station is now. He cut short/small orders for Willows lumber until he passed in 1978. I was just 4 then and remember logs being dropped of and playing in sawdust piles as tall as the building. I also remember driving the logging roads behind the lake hunting with him the year he passed. As a boy of 8 or 9 a neighbor of ours would take my brother and I down 304th to where the train tracks are and we would park and walk down the tracks to a path to the edge of the lake. It was swampy and they had boards set out to get to an old log barge that was tied up to shore. We would night fish by lantern light for catfish often from that barge. It was an amazing place for a kid that age. A nice man from church would take us frogging with spotlights around the lake also. Slow going looking for dead heads and cruising the lake short netting toads. Good times.
Thats awesome. I knew a family that pulled a lot of frogs out of the lake. I could never get into it, the taste was fine more of a mental thing :chuckle: lots of people collecting those snails too, I never got the courage to try them lol
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I grew up fishing and hunting Kapowsin. Great lake and lots of fun. In the fall and winter we'd go "cast and blast"ing. Come home with a pile of ducks and usually a few trout. Back when Elmer (then Andy) owned the private dock, it was pretty secure too. Too bad things didn't work out for Andy.
I have a tough time wanting to go back with that public ramp being the only option. It's pretty sketchy and I'm really not interested in dealing with strung out tweakers when I'm in my recreation time. Maybe sometime I'll try it out again when I can empty the truck out and make it very unappealing for a break in.
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Kapowsin was my Dad's Favorite Lake back in the 60's and 70's. Surprising since we lived in Kent, WA but would head down to fish almost every weekend.
I remember when I was 10 years old we arrived at the lake and discovered neither one of us had put the oars in the car. We found a couple of old 1X6's floating along the shore to use as paddles, we didn't get near our Limit that day but it made for a memorable Trip. Sure was a great lake for Spiny Ray and Big Carryovers just trolling a Fly over them big logs when the leaves started to change color.
We were Trapping Beaver and Muskrats in November up on the North End of the lake when a storm hit. Dodging Sunken Logs amongst the Whitecaps made for an interesting zigzagging struggle back to the Launch.
Dad was giving his little 15 horsepower Evinrude all she had, as he took orders from his soaked Kid navigating off the bow.
We didn't tell Mom about that one (as the two drowned Rats snuck in the back door to find a change of clothes.) :IBCOOL:
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Man I love hearing all these story’s about kapowsin!
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I would fish the dock at ericsons when Linda ran it,there times she would force a shot of whiskey on me. The old wood boats I loved my kids would say let's troll dad..lol I was told that some time in history they were going to make kapowsin the state capital
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Ericsson’s was the best. Man when we pulled in we always hoped that the 14 foot smoker craft was sitting at the end of the dock. We would rent it every time if it was there. We thought we were sailing the biggest boat on the lake :chuckle:
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Ericsson’s was the best. Man when we pulled in we always hoped that the 14 foot smoker craft was sitting at the end of the dock. We would rent it every time if it was there. We thought we were sailing the biggest boat on the lake :chuckle:
Same!!
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A Family used to compete with us as we would drop anchor and fish just off the Island.
The the Lily Pads would come alive next to our boat and up would pop an Otter chewing on a Crappie. We had suspected they were in the neighborhood as evidenced by all the Crayfish Shells on the logs.
This same Family also frequented both Ohop and Tanwax lakes and when they showed up we knew it was best to move down the lake.
The Resort over on Tanwax had a Old Pet Raccoon inside a Rabbit Cage that used to love eating all the Freshwater Snails you would bring him up from the lake. These were Big Black Snails about an inch across and he could eat them as fast as a Kid could collect them. :tup:
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Ericsson’s was the best. Man when we pulled in we always hoped that the 14 foot smoker craft was sitting at the end of the dock. We would rent it every time if it was there. We thought we were sailing the biggest boat on the lake :chuckle:
Same!!
So you were who would take it :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I never knew about "The Quarry" up on the hill, it's well hidden when fishing at lake level.
"I knew a little bit about Lake Kapowsin’s history from what my Dad told me. He said that at one time, 100 years ago, it had been a booming logging town. The lake now is so quiet and peaceful that it’s hard to imagine how raucous the town must have been with lumber mills and around 900 residents. There are still shanties from the era around Lake Kapowsin, and rumor has it that a train sits at the bottom of the lake, an eerie reminder of the past."
Lake Kapowsin actually came into being about 500 years ago when a mudflow rushed down the slopes of Mt. Rainier. The mudflow dammed a creek, flooded the valley, and drowned the forest in the rising water, creating Lake Kapowsin. When the first settlers arrived, they leveled the trees poking out of the lake and used the lake to float logs. Fires destroyed half the town years later, and eventually local businesses were moved or destroyed. Less than 400 people live in the city of Kapowsin now.
The Washington State Department of Natural Resources is considering designating Lake Kapowsin as the state’s first freshwater aquatic reserve because of its unique geologic origins, natural habitats, and relatively undeveloped shorelines.
Around 1503, Mt. Rainier unleashed the Electron Mudflow. This lahar, a river of mud, began on the western slopes of the mountain, taking with it trees as big as three meters in diameter, and swept down the Puyallup River to Puget Sound. The process dammed the Kapowsin tributary and created the lake we see today.
Settlers began trickling into the area in the 1880’s. Fred Hilgert and his wife are credited with establishing the first homestead on Lake Kapowsin. This was short-lived, as a railroad was built through their backyard and forced them to move away from the shoreline. Lumber mills popped up along Kapowsin’s shore lands and the Lake was used as a log pond. Employment steadied and expanded, the population grew, and by 1910 the town of Kapowsin was bustling. The lakeshore was home to workers and their families, and supported businesses and schools. Seattle and Tacoma used connecting railways to bring lumber from Kapowsin for building expansion. By the 1920’s and 30’s, however, the timber boom town of Kapowsin gave way to mill fires and Tacoma’s unrealized reservoir plans.
Today the 512-acre Lake Kapowsin preserves the remains of a mature old growth forest, and thus contains evidence for dating the historic lahar.
Kapowsin Lake was surveyed by a crew from September 7-9, 1999. Multiple gear types Electrofishing, Gill nets, and Trap nets.
Largemouth bass and bluegill were the most abundant species sampled both numerically (32.6 and 42.5 percent, respectively) and by biomass (39.4 and 26.3 percent, respectively). Other species sampled during the survey, in order of highest to lowest abundance, include: yellow perch; rock bass; pumpkinseed; black crappie; brown bullhead; and Coho. Few largemouth bass of quality size and greater were encountered during the survey. Similar to bass, few bluegill of quality size and greater were sampled from the lake.
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There sampling seems weird to me. All the years we fished Kapowsin, we were after rainbows only. Always caught fish. Never heard of or seen any Coho?
Lots of perch, crappie, bass though.
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Used to be loaded with them coming up through the Puyallup to kapowsin creek then through the lake. I haven't seen or heard of anyone catching one in the lake in probably 25 years. I'm sure its happened though
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I fished it regularly from 1990 through 2010, then the breakins got to bad. Never saw a silver. Too Many limits of rainbows to count though.
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Yeah, not sure why no rainbows were mentioned in that data. State still plants every year. Crappie numbers seem way down recently. Getting hard to find any ime. Crowded there this past spring/summer.
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I fished it regularly from 1990 through 2010, then the breakins got to bad. Never saw a silver. Too Many limits of rainbows to count though.
Yes, lots of rainbows I didn't catch that they didn't list them there. Regarding the coho, loaded may be an exaggeration but there were plenty that came through. A neighbor of mine caught and smoke many of them over the years. Ive seen a few recently within half a mile of the lake in the creek, but not in the amounts I used to see them. Hopefully you didn't lose too much out of your rig, the tweakers suck
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Andy Ericson used to talk about trolling for kings. Take that with about 40 grains of salt.
I’ve loaded up a stringer or two of good perch in that lake and certainly many limits of trout. Kokanee here and there. Bass are all throughout.
Fun lake. I just don’t want to park my truck there anymore :dunno:
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I remember my mom telling a story about my dad going to get Periwinkles from the creek to fish for kings. Hmmm?
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They net pen raised coho on the lake for a few years.
We also used to catch chum in the winter while duck hunting..
Been at least 15 years though...
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The creepiest experience I've ever had on a lake was on Kapowsin. We were out toward the southwest end of the lake when we saw a rope. I can't remember if it was over a log or if we snagged it with some fishing gear. All I remember was we discovered a rope. Like any teenage boy would do, we started pulling on that thing. It had some weight, but it was coming up. We pulled and pulled until finally it broke surface - a black trash bag about the size of a human head. We were so freaked out we threw it back in and motored away. I'm sure it wasn't that (probably would have heard about some headless body or something) but when two teenage boys are in the boat, it's definitely that.
Looking back, we probably should have figured out what it was. :dunno:
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I've heard stories of steelhead in there too :dunno:
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And Bigfoot
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I’ve heard a few story’s of tweakers trying to cook on the island and flipping the boat over and drowning
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And Bigfoot
Batsquatch... :chuckle:
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ctwiggs1,
As Kids our imaginations would run wild as we peered into the Deep Water from our small two man Rowboat.
We could imagine all kinds of creatures lurking in the depths below, just waiting for that small hand or foot to be dangled over the side.
I remember having that creepy feeling when our boat would pass over a huge submerged log. You could see it looming out of the darkness as the sun shone through the water. What was that I saw moving down there?
Yikes!
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https://washingtonbigfoot.com/2019/04/04/legend-of-batsquatch/ (https://washingtonbigfoot.com/2019/04/04/legend-of-batsquatch/)
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Yeah I think my second creepiest experience was on that lake as well when we high centered on a submerged log. Lots of "rock the boat, but don't rock the boat too much" to get out of that pickle.
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There's a stump near the south end with a memorial plaque remembering two men who drowned several years ago. Reminds everyone to "wear your lifejacket". It is from this incident I believe:
The lake has seen it's share of tragedies for sure. This one among others:
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/pierce-county-man-drowns-in-same-lake-where-mom-brother-died-38-years-ago/ (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/pierce-county-man-drowns-in-same-lake-where-mom-brother-died-38-years-ago/)
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Only fished it once several years ago as a guest of a local. Real nice gentlemen, really cool lake. Caught them on green and red wedding ring tipped with a worm, trolling nice and slow. I really liked seeing all the stumps in the lake. Never seen that many stumps before, just gotta be careful is all.
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It’s a Great Lake to fish I wish there was more warning about what boats should be on there. Now that there is a public launch I have see more and more boats that shouldn’t be on there or boats that are going way to fast
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I have helped look for bodies in that lake. Night with big lights works the best. All the logs makes it creepy for sure. Divers did not like it because of all the lost lures.
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Did they ever find those two guys? Lake Wenatchee is still holding some bodies that I dove for when I was on the Chelan County Dive Team in the late 80s and early 90’s.
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The canoe guys? Yes. They floated up.
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Then there are those who never will return.
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Ah yes, I grew up fishing Kapowsin for trout, bass and everything in between! I remember my Dad having me sit on the bow of our boat looking for stumps while he was cruising at 25 mph through the log jungle...All I had time to yell was "DAA", before we were airborne, lol Luckily us and the boat were fine, but we never did that again :)