Post by: silverdalesauer on February 26, 2021, 01:41:45 PM
- coyote/small game hunting
- deer hunting
- shooting sports (target)
- home defense (optional)
I've added home defense just because I know that there's multiple options with an AR-style rifle that many friends use to both hunt with and serve as a back up for home defense. But, at the same time, I'm more of a shotgun guy who'd prefer to use a pump-shot gun for the home defense. So, it's not absolutely necessary.
Thoughts?
Post by: tgray on February 26, 2021, 01:52:35 PM
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on February 26, 2021, 02:03:53 PM
Post by: LDennis24 on February 26, 2021, 02:08:26 PM
Or the trusty old .308!
Best survival/apocalypse gun... .22 long rifle or similar rimfire, but .22 ammo is everywhere. I would carry a .22 in that instance cuz I could carry 1000 rnds easily. Try that with even a .223...
Post by: fowl smacker on February 26, 2021, 03:08:53 PM
Post by: ellensburgpo on February 26, 2021, 03:14:22 PM
I have a 7mm rem mag I love it.
This was the route I went a few years back and still think it’s the right answer.
If home defense was truly in the equation I would go with the Maxim Defense PDW, animals would still die, I’d just have to get closer.
Post by: hunter399 on February 26, 2021, 03:19:22 PM
:yeah:Gotta + 1 to the 308 ,great caliber.
Or the trusty old .308!
Best survival/apocalypse gun... .22 long rifle or similar rimfire, but .22 ammo is everywhere. I would carry a .22 in that instance cuz I could carry 1000 rnds easily. Try that with even a .223...
I have to add 243 also, everything you said could be done with a 243 and very easy recoil.
With that said ,my first bolt action rifle was a 270 and it put meat on the table Alot for me.
I currently been playin with the 7mm mag past few years ,it seems to get the job done.
Post by: jrebel on February 26, 2021, 03:32:13 PM
If you don't care about the hides on yotes and you want to hunt bigger game than deer.....options are countless. 6.5, .270, 7mm, 06, 300,...........If you don't want to step into a magnum caliber I would strongly consider the 6.5 or .270. You can get the 6.5 creed in an AR10 platform if you want to add home defense to the menu. I'm personally not a fan of hunting with AR platforms. They are heavy, loud and clunky.....I know people will disagree with that last statement that is why I preface it as my opinion.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on February 26, 2021, 03:39:07 PM
Post by: b23 on February 26, 2021, 04:15:34 PM
6.5 AR 10
:yeah:
The AR10 6.5 Creed does check a lot of boxes and everyone should have at least one.
Post by: MADMAX on February 26, 2021, 04:25:40 PM
Post by: KFhunter on February 26, 2021, 04:26:15 PM
Then a medium to mag size rifle for a second choice, to cover deer and elk, bear.
Then AR platform.
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Post by: snake on February 26, 2021, 05:55:04 PM
Post by: wadu1 on February 26, 2021, 06:01:35 PM
Used to be 30-06 , load them up or load them down for what ever you wanted to hunt. Ammo you could get anywhere. Times have changed.:yeah:
Or .308 load up or down.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on February 26, 2021, 06:02:40 PM
Post by: wadu1 on February 26, 2021, 06:06:33 PM
.06 .270 7mm mag. And well the .22 has killed more game than all of them combined. :tup:Very true about the old .22. I have a hair on 3X3 muley rack my grandmother harvested in Colorado in 1900 with a Stephens Crackshot .22.
Post by: Humptulips on February 26, 2021, 06:10:07 PM
For years I used a 7mm Rem mag for big game but more recently I have packed a 300 Win Short mag. I would not think of using these for small game. As far as shooting sports I guess you could use what ever but I should think most would want something that was affordable to shoot. That ought to fit in well with small game but crossing over to big game too. I can't see it.
Post by: BigGoonTuna on February 26, 2021, 06:12:32 PM
It’s hard to beat the .308 or 30-06 for ubiquity. They do everything well with tolerable recoil and (in normal times) cost of ammunition. Someone who wants an adequate rifle to do everything probably isn’t going to mind tearing up hides on coyotes or want magnum recoil from something capable of taking an elk at 600 yards.
Post by: kselkhunter on February 26, 2021, 06:33:29 PM
If you really can only have one for all those purposes? 35 Whelen. :) 158gr or 180gr pistol bullets (they're lower velocity loads for pistol bullets) for small game, coyote, bobcat. Then step up to a big game load for everything else. Can load from180gr up to 310gr bullets for everything from deer to grizzly.
Or just get a multi-barrel combined. Like the Double Badger in 243win and 410ga. Or one of the old Baikal's if you can find one. Those came in lots of varieties of combinations. There is a cool 257 Roberts over 12ga Baikal on Gunbroker right now that would be fun. But they did 308/12, etc. combos. Some of the old Savage 24 and Savage 42 combos are good too if you can find them.
Post by: huntnphool on February 26, 2021, 07:13:26 PM
Post by: The Big Game Hunter on May 15, 2021, 08:53:35 AM
You can learn more about those cartridges below if you're interested.
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/7mm-rem-mag-vs-30-06/
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/6-5-creedmoor-vs-30-06/
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Post by: Taco280AI on May 15, 2021, 09:39:23 AM
Post by: Igor on May 15, 2021, 09:43:48 AM
.243 or .270 would be hard to beat.
The .270 is, indeed, hard to beat. I consider it one of the best calibers for deer-sized game. It is a little light for elk, IMO. However, I have a friend who has hunted Roosevelt elk on the peninsula with his .270 for many, many years, and has been very successful. I might choose the .30-'06 over the .270. The '06 is extremely versatile when it comes to reloading. Can't really go wrong with either caliber.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on May 15, 2021, 10:00:27 AM
Edit - obviously I didn’t read the whole question!
Post by: Stein on May 15, 2021, 10:25:21 AM
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Post by: Dan-o on May 15, 2021, 10:54:34 AM
Funny, I have 7 or 8 hunting rifles and do not own a 30-06. However, if I were to choose only one, that would probably be it.
I also don't own a 30-06, but if pressed for a single rifle might go there.
Tons of factory ammo across a very wide spectrum, and I'm guessing better ammo availability at small town stores than about any other caliber. ..... present times excepted.
Post by: ghosthunter on May 15, 2021, 11:06:04 AM
Post by: jstone on May 15, 2021, 11:31:18 AM
.243 Savage LR heavy rifle
7MM mag Christianson Mesa Long Range
Both are lights out guns
Post by: hunter399 on May 15, 2021, 11:37:13 AM
Some of this can be said with 30-06 and others.
Ability to load 110 grain or military Fmj for varmint and such that will punch a small hole.
Same ability to take bigger game with a 150 or 165 grain.
If you don't reload and want options.
That's what I would go with.
Post by: Caseyd on May 15, 2021, 12:01:53 PM
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Post by: Igor on May 15, 2021, 04:45:56 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on May 15, 2021, 04:47:50 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 15, 2021, 04:54:30 PM
I don't want to derail an excellent discussion, and turn it into an argument, but I've always been curious why someone would chose .308 Winchester over the .30-'06. A comparison of both might be a positive contribution here.
I've never owned a 308 and I've had, and still have, more than a couple 30/06 rifles, but I'd guess the reason why is the 308 recoils less, and still pretty much works just as well as the 30/06.
Post by: Taco280AI on May 15, 2021, 05:28:53 PM
I've always been curious why someone would cho(o)se .308 Winchester over the .30-'06.
If they have no intent of shooting past 300 yards, or even to it.
You could play that game with quite a few cartridges.
Why choose a 308 when you could have a 30-06?
Why choose a 30-06 when you could get a 300 Win Mag?
Why choose a 300 Win Mag when you could get a 300 PRC?
And best yet, why choose any of those when you could get a 280AI? :tup:
Post by: Igor on May 15, 2021, 05:42:13 PM
You could play that game with quite a few cartridges.
Why choose a 308 when you could have a 30-06?
Why choose a 30-06 when you could get a 300 Win Mag?
Why choose a 300 Win Mag when you could get a 300 PRC?
And best yet, why choose any of those when you could get a 280AI? :tup:
Well, it wasn't meant as "playing a game", as you put it. It was meant as a serious question, comparing two very similar calibers. If you want to "play a game" then just add "Wby" to the end of any caliber you care to discuss, and most likely .280AI won't even be in the discussion.
Post by: Taco280AI on May 15, 2021, 05:50:43 PM
You could play that game with quite a few cartridges.
Why choose a 308 when you could have a 30-06?
Why choose a 30-06 when you could get a 300 Win Mag?
Why choose a 300 Win Mag when you could get a 300 PRC?
And best yet, why choose any of those when you could get a 280AI? :tup:
Well, it wasn't meant as "playing a game", as you put it. It was meant as a serious question, comparing two very similar calibers. If you want to "play a game" then just add "Wby" to the end of any caliber you care to discuss, and most likely .280AI won't even be in the discussion.
I guess I should have used the sarcasm font in parts of my post :rolleyes:
But I gave you a serious answer as well, which also eluded you.
Post by: Igor on May 15, 2021, 05:55:59 PM
You could play that game with quite a few cartridges.
Why choose a 308 when you could have a 30-06?
Why choose a 30-06 when you could get a 300 Win Mag?
Why choose a 300 Win Mag when you could get a 300 PRC?
And best yet, why choose any of those when you could get a 280AI? :tup:
Well, it wasn't meant as "playing a game", as you put it. It was meant as a serious question, comparing two very similar calibers. If you want to "play a game" then just add "Wby" to the end of any caliber you care to discuss, and most likely .280AI won't even be in the discussion.
I guess I should have used the sarcasm font in parts of my post :rolleyes:
But I gave you a serious answer as well, which also eluded you.
It didn't elude me......I just don't think that adding a boutique cartridge to the discussion adds much.
Post by: Taco280AI on May 15, 2021, 06:06:59 PM
You could play that game with quite a few cartridges.
Why choose a 308 when you could have a 30-06?
Why choose a 30-06 when you could get a 300 Win Mag?
Why choose a 300 Win Mag when you could get a 300 PRC?
And best yet, why choose any of those when you could get a 280AI? :tup:
Well, it wasn't meant as "playing a game", as you put it. It was meant as a serious question, comparing two very similar calibers. If you want to "play a game" then just add "Wby" to the end of any caliber you care to discuss, and most likely .280AI won't even be in the discussion.
I guess I should have used the sarcasm font in parts of my post :rolleyes:
But I gave you a serious answer as well, which also eluded you.
It didn't elude me......I just don't think that adding a boutique cartridge to the discussion adds much.
You sure about that?
I've always been curious why someone would cho(o)se .308 Winchester over the .30-'06.
If they have no intent of shooting past 300 yards, or even to it.
That is in reference to the 308, which was already under discussion by you and nothing I added. So serious answer given. Why not, if you never shoot 300 or 200 yards, go with a 308?
Post by: bobcat on May 15, 2021, 06:10:39 PM
Post by: Igor on May 15, 2021, 06:21:27 PM
You could play that game with quite a few cartridges.
Why choose a 308 when you could have a 30-06?
Why choose a 30-06 when you could get a 300 Win Mag?
Why choose a 300 Win Mag when you could get a 300 PRC?
And best yet, why choose any of those when you could get a 280AI? :tup:
Well, it wasn't meant as "playing a game", as you put it. It was meant as a serious question, comparing two very similar calibers. If you want to "play a game" then just add "Wby" to the end of any caliber you care to discuss, and most likely .280AI won't even be in the discussion.
I guess I should have used the sarcasm font in parts of my post :rolleyes:
But I gave you a serious answer as well, which also eluded you.
It didn't elude me......I just don't think that adding a boutique cartridge to the discussion adds much.
You sure about that?I've always been curious why someone would cho(o)se .308 Winchester over the .30-'06.
If they have no intent of shooting past 300 yards, or even to it.
That is in reference to the 308, which was already under discussion by you and nothing I added. So serious answer given. Why not, if you never shoot 300 or 200 yards, go with a 308?
Precisely.
Post by: BigGoonTuna on May 15, 2021, 07:42:40 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on May 15, 2021, 07:54:18 PM
Post by: konradcountry on May 15, 2021, 08:04:55 PM
But if you aren't invested in 308 I think 7-08 is the way to go.
3006 is just plain fun at the range though.
Post by: Taco280AI on May 15, 2021, 08:26:33 PM
You could play that game with quite a few cartridges.
Why choose a 308 when you could have a 30-06?
Why choose a 30-06 when you could get a 300 Win Mag?
Why choose a 300 Win Mag when you could get a 300 PRC?
And best yet, why choose any of those when you could get a 280AI? :tup:
Well, it wasn't meant as "playing a game", as you put it. It was meant as a serious question, comparing two very similar calibers. If you want to "play a game" then just add "Wby" to the end of any caliber you care to discuss, and most likely .280AI won't even be in the discussion.
I guess I should have used the sarcasm font in parts of my post :rolleyes:
But I gave you a serious answer as well, which also eluded you.
It didn't elude me......I just don't think that adding a boutique cartridge to the discussion adds much.
You sure about that?I've always been curious why someone would cho(o)se .308 Winchester over the .30-'06.
If they have no intent of shooting past 300 yards, or even to it.
That is in reference to the 308, which was already under discussion by you and nothing I added. So serious answer given. Why not, if you never shoot 300 or 200 yards, go with a 308?
Precisely.
So why the curiosity of choosing the 308 over an -06? In short range applications it makes perfect sense.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on May 15, 2021, 08:44:47 PM
Post by: hunter399 on May 15, 2021, 08:47:37 PM
I don't want to derail an excellent discussion, and turn it into an argument, but I've always been curious why someone would chose .308 Winchester over the .30-'06. A comparison of both might be a positive contribution here.Brass and reloading components was cheaper pre covid19.
Case capacity is smaller than the 06 .
Ammo on the shelf today I assume is about the same,nothing.
Recoil with 308 is a bit lighter ,150 grain is where the 308 shines.
The rifle I bought ended up turning into my son's rifle.
He went from 243 to 308 pretty easy with keeping accuracy.
I don't own an 06 now ,but did have one before I started reloading .
Long range there is better calibers than a 308 like the 06.
But for shots under 200 yards 308 does pack a punch.
Really not much difference between the two ,just a few hundred FPS . My son's loads with a 150 grain come in on the cronograph at 2850.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on May 15, 2021, 08:54:39 PM
https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/308-great/#:~:text=Despite%20the%20military%20dropping%207.62%20for%20its%20main,specialized%20military%20units%20who%20required%20long-range%20precision%20rounds.
Post by: Igor on May 15, 2021, 09:02:17 PM
I don't want to derail an excellent discussion, and turn it into an argument, but I've always been curious why someone would chose .308 Winchester over the .30-'06. A comparison of both might be a positive contribution here.Brass and reloading components was cheaper pre covid19.
Case capacity is smaller than the 06 .
Ammo on the shelf today I assume is about the same,nothing.
Recoil with 308 is a bit lighter ,150 grain is where the 308 shines.
The rifle I bought ended up turning into my son's rifle.
He went from 243 to 308 pretty easy with keeping accuracy.
I don't own an 06 now ,but did have one before I started reloading .
Long range there is better calibers than a 308 like the 06.
But for shots under 200 yards 308 does pack a punch.
Really not much difference between the two ,just a few hundred FPS . My son's loads with a 150 grain come in on the cronograph at 2850.
You make a great case for the .308. One of the interesting aspects of that caliber is the lighter recoil. I have known a few hunters who were very recoil-sensitive, and felt-recoil is a very real consideration when choosing a hunting rifle.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on May 15, 2021, 09:08:21 PM
Go get some 😎
Post by: X-Force on May 15, 2021, 09:57:25 PM
If you can find ammo.
Post by: huntnphool on May 15, 2021, 11:19:32 PM
Its not there yet but in 5 years I think you will see 300 Prc being mentioned a lot in answers. 215 gr @ 3000 fps, 1000 yd capable, shootable without brake or lightweight with brake. The main advantage over these others mentioned is it can do targets or game to 1000 yds.Are you saying 7mmRM is not capable of being used at 1000 yards?
Edit - obviously I didn’t read the whole question!
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 16, 2021, 04:38:29 AM
Said it before, all those Army sniper confirmed K’s can’t be wrong. Love my .308.
Yep.👍
As I have .300winmag as my forum name.🤣
But my back up is a .308.😉
Post by: Special T on May 16, 2021, 01:48:03 PM
6.5 Grendel AR 15I belive you can resize 7.62x39 cases to grendel specs. I personally think its a great round.
If you can find ammo.
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Post by: Special T on May 16, 2021, 01:55:15 PM
I think you can make the case for several different choices is you allow 2 calibers but im not sure how you can go wrong with the price availability variety of the 06 feed it a 110 pill or as heavy as you dare for moose or somethi g more dangerious.
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on May 16, 2021, 02:33:43 PM
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Hard to fault the 7mag with 195 bergers. On smaller game prob better than 300prc, slight edge to prc on elk but splitting hairs for sure.
Post by: Bob33 on May 16, 2021, 02:56:20 PM
My favorite all around big game cartridge is the 300 WSM.
Post by: Stein on May 16, 2021, 05:43:48 PM
Said it before, all those Army sniper confirmed K’s can’t be wrong. Love my .308.
We have the 30-06 to thank for the opportunity to make those .308 shots. :chuckle:
Ballistically, they are very similar, my 30-06 hunting load probably chronos pretty close to a .308 since my barrel likes them a bit slower than max.
Short action could be helpful in some situations, but it's really a toss up. 30-06 gives you a bit heavier bullet options but not much.
Ammo is available and everybody and their brother makes a huge range of .308 bullets, known powder combinations, what's not to like for normal range shots?
Plus, the old cranky guys at the range tend to take it easy on you when they see you are shooting 30-06 and don't make fun of you behind your back like the trendy new stuff. :chuckle:
Tons of great options out there, pick something that has the punch to knock down the biggest thing you want to shoot and get good at shooting it. I think a lot of guys are way over gunned these days, judging from the targets at the range at hunter sight in day, they aren't even getting the advantages of faster, heavier bullets.
Post by: idaho guy on May 16, 2021, 08:39:48 PM
I own one hunting rifle and it’s a 30-06. Never needed anything else.
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:yeah: I dont even ever shoot my 30-06 anymore but I killed everything with one growing up in montana. I have a real soft spot for the 30-06. The different loads available even as factory ammo is enormous. We even had some down to 65 grain factory bullets back in the day. I have shot my 300 win mag the most hunting the last few years. You will have to get a 22lr for small game if you want to salvage much :chuckle:. I still think the 30-06 is the most versatile big game hunting rifle. I would also be very comfortable having a 30-06 for home defense
Post by: huntingfool7 on May 17, 2021, 07:06:40 AM
Just like the previous topic I posted on "Best All Around Carry Pistol for Versatile Use" I've run into another question much like it. This one comes from someone wondering what would be the best all around rifle to own (if you could only own one) for the following purposes:
- coyote/small game hunting
- deer hunting
- shooting sports (target)
- home defense (optional)
I've added home defense just because I know that there's multiple options with an AR-style rifle that many friends use to both hunt with and serve as a back up for home defense. But, at the same time, I'm more of a shotgun guy who'd prefer to use a pump-shot gun for the home defense. So, it's not absolutely necessary.
Thoughts?
Anyone that asks a question like this is unlikely to be looking at competitive target sports. If down the road they decide to compete in some discipline, that sport will dictate their second firearm choice.
For informal plinking/target, coyotes and deer a .243 will cover those basis nicely. Throwing in home defense is a monkey wrench. A rifle for the original parameters will likely have sighting equipment ill suited to inside the home distances in the dark. If home defense must be considered in this scenario, I would suggest a Remington pump action .243 with a scope in a QD mount so the open sights could be utilized. I'd also add a light on a rail.
FWIW- I would add a light under the barrel of the shotgun. A light mounted under the barrel will allow you to point and shoot a shotgun as if it were daylight with the barrel easily visible for reference pointing.
Post by: ctwiggs1 on May 17, 2021, 09:04:55 AM
.223 for coyote
.22 LR for small game
darn near any centerfire for deer
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 17, 2021, 10:23:12 AM
I don't want to derail an excellent discussion, and turn it into an argument, but I've always been curious why someone would chose .308 Winchester over the .30-'06. A comparison of both might be a positive contribution here.
I've never owned a 308 and I've had, and still have, more than a couple 30/06 rifles, but I'd guess the reason why is the 308 recoils less, and still pretty much works just as well as the 30/06.
Weight.
Post by: Igor on May 17, 2021, 10:40:40 AM
I don't want to derail an excellent discussion, and turn it into an argument, but I've always been curious why someone would chose .308 Winchester over the .30-'06. A comparison of both might be a positive contribution here.
I've never owned a 308 and I've had, and still have, more than a couple 30/06 rifles, but I'd guess the reason why is the 308 recoils less, and still pretty much works just as well as the 30/06.
Weight.
I would guess that the difference in weight between the two calibers in the same rifle isn't much of a consideration. A Winchester Featherweight in .30-'06 weighs 4 oz. more than the same rifle in .308.
Post by: greenhead_killer on May 17, 2021, 10:44:24 AM
Post by: thinkingman on May 17, 2021, 11:05:47 AM
Flawless and anyone who disagrees is a moron and will be subjected to the Cancel Culture!
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 17, 2021, 11:19:03 AM
I don't want to derail an excellent discussion, and turn it into an argument, but I've always been curious why someone would chose .308 Winchester over the .30-'06. A comparison of both might be a positive contribution here.
I've never owned a 308 and I've had, and still have, more than a couple 30/06 rifles, but I'd guess the reason why is the 308 recoils less, and still pretty much works just as well as the 30/06.
Weight.
I would guess that the difference in weight between the two calibers in the same rifle isn't much of a consideration. A Winchester Featherweight in .30-'06 weighs 4 oz. more than the same rifle in .308.
Depends on the manufacturer and trim, I suppose. Difference between .30-'06 weighs nearly a half pound more than the same rifle in .308 for the Ruger Hawkeye Hunter. If you go to the Compact, which they don't offer in the .30-'06, you are looking at about a pound and a half savings.
Post by: Platensek-po on May 17, 2021, 12:00:43 PM
Toyota Tacoma.
Flawless and anyone who disagrees is a moron and will be subjected to the Cancel Culture!
Wow just wow. You need help man. Your obsession about this is unhealthy
Post by: greenhead_killer on May 17, 2021, 02:16:49 PM
Toyota Tacoma.:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Flawless and anyone who disagrees is a moron and will be subjected to the Cancel Culture!
Post by: thinkingman on May 17, 2021, 02:35:05 PM
:chuckle:Toyota Tacoma.
Flawless and anyone who disagrees is a moron and will be subjected to the Cancel Culture!
Wow just wow. You need help man. Your obsession about this is unhealthy
Post by: konradcountry on May 17, 2021, 07:52:53 PM
I would guess that the difference in weight between the two calibers in the same rifle isn't much of a consideration. A Winchester Featherweight in .30-'06 weighs 4 oz. more than the same rifle in .308.
It depends on the rifle.
I've seen zero difference and I've seen a half pound difference.
Post by: Igor on May 17, 2021, 08:03:18 PM
I would guess that the difference in weight between the two calibers in the same rifle isn't much of a consideration. A Winchester Featherweight in .30-'06 weighs 4 oz. more than the same rifle in .308.
It depends on the rifle.
I've seen zero difference and I've seen a half pound difference.
Yep. My original point was a response to the post that someone might pick a .308 over a .30-'06 due to the difference in weight. My opinion is that, in general the weight savings is minimal, but there are exceptions.
Post by: HAGEMANIAC on May 17, 2021, 08:18:19 PM
7MM 08
:yeah:
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on May 17, 2021, 08:22:00 PM
7MM 08
:yeah:
Here’s some discussion on just that.
https://gunnewsdaily.com/7mm-08-vs-308/#:~:text=There%20are%207mm%20rounds%20with%20more%20grains%20of,but%20the%20.308%20is%20generally%20the%20heavier%20bullet.
Post by: konradcountry on May 18, 2021, 06:23:25 AM
Here’s some discussion on just that.
https://gunnewsdaily.com/7mm-08-vs-308/#:~:text=There%20are%207mm%20rounds%20with%20more%20grains%20of,but%20the%20.308%20is%20generally%20the%20heavier%20bullet.
Not a bad write-up but doesn't go over wind drift.
Post by: Westside88 on May 20, 2021, 07:35:06 AM
For myself weight, barrel length, all weather protection, detachable magazine and a standard readily available cartridge were all on the wish list. A threaded barrel to allow a brake ( really not needed) and possibly a suppressor were a plus as well. Once you narrow down the operating system and features, the cartridge choices will likely be 2-4 standout choices as well.
Post by: metlhead on May 20, 2021, 10:08:24 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 20, 2021, 10:11:58 AM
Post by: Cougartail on May 20, 2021, 11:06:45 AM
7MM 08
:yeah:
7mm-08 in a BLR SS Takedown model would be my dream gun.
I think I'll start looking now!
Post by: metlhead on May 20, 2021, 04:48:03 PM