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Title: Let's talk batteries
Post by: rasbo on February 28, 2021, 05:51:55 AM: Ok ,my ulltera has arrived,what batteries are you guys using? It's a 24 volt so I'll need two batteries..size? Heck while we're here how about a plug for the motor
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: CP on February 28, 2021, 06:01:01 AM: https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,256484.0.html
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: CP on February 28, 2021, 06:14:06 AM: Quote from: rasbo on February 28, 2021, 05:51:55 AM
It's a 24 volt so I'll need two batteries..size?

They make 24V batteries:

https://battlebornbatteries.com/product/50ah-24v-lifepo4-deep-cycle-battery/
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: RockChuck on February 28, 2021, 06:42:12 AM: Those lithium’s are light but spendy!! Are you thinking a wet lead acid or sealed batteries? Depending on space and weight requirements Trojan SCS225 is a good option or a bit bigger and heavier a pair of Trojan T1275
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: CP on February 28, 2021, 08:27:43 AM: Aluminum boat? There is no way I'd allow a wet lead acid battery on my aluminum boat.
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: TommyH on February 28, 2021, 10:25:34 AM: Quote from: CP on February 28, 2021, 08:27:43 AM
Aluminum boat? There is no way I'd allow a wet lead acid battery on my aluminum boat.

Care to expand on this?
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Post by: Stein on February 28, 2021, 10:44:19 AM: Battery acid eats aluminum. They bounce around all day in the boat and nobody ever looks at them. The battery can develop pinhole leaks from rubbing or the little plugs at the top can leak or get knocked off and then all of a sudden the water is on the wrong side of the hull. Sealed batteries are designed for much more abuse, the automotive ones aren't designed to be bounced all around on the water and trailer.
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Post by: GWP on February 28, 2021, 10:46:59 AM: I am using a pair of sealed Interstate 31's now (80lb thrust 24v) but I am seriously looking at building my own lithium pack for a different boat that would end up being used for both boats. The weight of the 31's actually makes the one boat ride better, but will be too much (with the Riptide trolling motor) on the other boat.
The 31's have never run out of juice, though I have run them down pretty low on a very long windy day.
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: CP on February 28, 2021, 11:01:18 AM: Quote from: TommyH on February 28, 2021, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: CP on February 28, 2021, 08:27:43 AM
Aluminum boat? There is no way I'd allow a wet lead acid battery on my aluminum boat.

Care to expand on this?

Like Stein posted, battery acid eats aluminum. I had a StarCraft once upon a time that got a hole eaten through the hull by spilled acid. And these days there are so many better options; gel, AGM, Lithium, etc. There is no reason to mess with acid anymore. I can't count the pairs of jeans and gloves that I've ruined over the years with battery acid.
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: GWP on February 28, 2021, 11:23:06 AM: Forgot the ‘plug’ part.
COMEGETSOME posted a pic and part number for a plug that looks great.
MKR26 plug.
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: Blacklab on February 28, 2021, 01:21:21 PM: two 27s in parallel. This 12v last all day. They sit in a milk crate at the foot of pass through. Being yours is 24V might lead towards 31s in series.
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: rasbo on February 28, 2021, 01:28:33 PM: Quote from: CP on February 28, 2021, 08:27:43 AM
Aluminum boat? There is no way I'd allow a wet lead acid battery on my aluminum boat.
never had a problem in any boat or other rigs,but I do take care of my stuff...
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: rasbo on February 28, 2021, 01:31:03 PM: Quote from: RockChuck on February 28, 2021, 06:42:12 AM
Those lithium’s are light but spendy!! Are you thinking a wet lead acid or sealed batteries? Depending on space and weight requirements Trojan SCS225 is a good option or a bit bigger and heavier a pair of Trojan T1275
lead most likely, I want the weight up front to see how it works out..if it's to much I might have to sell my wife and grandchildren for lithium :chuckle:
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Post by: RockChuck on February 28, 2021, 03:16:16 PM: I’d Put them in a good battery box for extra insurance, like said above there is a lot of bouncing in a boat and when it’s on the trailer. Keep the water level correct and you’ll probably be fine, I have used a few different sealed lead acid battery’s and had good luck with AGM but they get expensive also! Odyssey and north star are the 2 that come to mind that I have used.
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: GWP on February 28, 2021, 03:28:05 PM: My starting motor/outboard only batteries have always been lead acid, and I do not remember ever having a sealed one for starting. They have always been in a box and strapped down. Never had an issue with serious corrosion or leaks. You DO have to fill them once in a while, so I know there is evaporation. Just has not been a problem. Mostly aluminum boats.
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: CP on March 01, 2021, 06:18:34 AM: Quote from: rasbo on February 28, 2021, 01:28:33 PM
Quote from: CP on February 28, 2021, 08:27:43 AM
Aluminum boat? There is no way I'd allow a wet lead acid battery on my aluminum boat.
never had a problem in any boat or other rigs,but I do take care of my stuff...

Then the Duracell SLI24MDC is a good, cheap, wet acid, marine deep cycle. It’s a group 24, 75ah. They are about 45lbs and run around $110 each. I believe Walmart carries them. They should last you 4 or 5 years if you treat them right. I have a set in my RV and they have served me well.

Next step up, I also own a set of SLI31AGM – Group 31, 100ah. They weight about 65lbs and go for about $250. Very good batteries and being AGM, you don’t have the acid spillage issue to worry about or contain.

The very best lead acid deep cycle I’ve ever owned is the GC2-XHD-UTL. I run my cabin on a pair of them, they are 7 years old and are just now starting to show their age. 232ah and they weigh a ton. I think they were somewhere around $200/each. But they are 6V so you would need 4 of them. Weight and volume probably make them impractical for a small boat.

Whatever you pick, you are going to get stuck with core charges unless you have a trade in. I think they run about $40 per battery.
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: dilleytech on March 01, 2021, 08:37:06 AM: Quote from: Blacklab on February 28, 2021, 01:21:21 PM
two 27s in parallel. This 12v last all day. They sit in a milk crate at the foot of pass through. Being yours is 24V might lead towards 31s in series.

You meant to say in series not parallel.

I just have two Walmart brand 29 series deep cycles installed in battery boxes. They seem to work well for about 3 years and cost around 70$ each. Haven’t had any of them leak yet but that’s what the battery boxes are for. Most importantly install an inboard two bank battery charger/maintainer and keep them plugged in. For maximum battery life and convenience. Minnkota sells a good plug. They can be found on Amazon or whatever. And the quick disconnect plate is nice.
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: huntnphool on March 01, 2021, 09:28:29 AM: https://www.odysseybattery.com/applications/marine-rv-batteries/

Well worth the money rasbo :tup:
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: huntnphool on July 26, 2021, 04:45:09 PM: Pulled my boat out and tuned up my kicker. It’s been sitting since last September and the 17 year old batteries are still sitting at 12.6 volts.
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 26, 2021, 04:51:24 PM: That’s great! I’m going to have to look into them I’m in need of a couple deep cycle batteries.
Title: Re: Let's talk batteries
Post by: spin05 on August 06, 2021, 01:13:19 AM: Quote from: rasbo on February 28, 2021, 05:51:55 AM
Ok ,my ulltera has arrived,what batteries are you guys using? It's a 24 volt so I'll need two batteries..size? Heck while we're here how about a plug for the motor

Trojan T-series are kinda of the cream of the crop for lead batteries. I have since switched to US Batteries. cheaper,more reserve power. Been happy so far i think we are on year 3 or 4