Post by: GWP on March 09, 2021, 07:24:14 AM
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-03/draft_non-native_game_fish_policy_0.pdf
Post by: bassquatch on March 09, 2021, 08:34:25 PM
More reasons to detest this State evolve every year. Can't wait to move! Smh
Post by: Jake Dogfish on March 09, 2021, 09:14:24 PM
I don’t see how they will be treated any differently.
Post by: Russ McDonald on March 10, 2021, 06:07:19 AM
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Post by: bassquatch on March 10, 2021, 06:09:44 AM
Simple rod and reel anglers don't have the financial means to fight it. Nor do we generate enough revenue for the State to just 'look the other way', or to focus their collective resources in a proper, more helpful direction.
Heaven forbid a seal or sea lion should lose its life. Or a couple thousand cormorants be removed. Or a couple netting seasons be canceled. Nope, it's those pesky walleye, bass and tiger musky. Hey WDFW, gut a few trout in this State and see what tumbles out...oops, did I type that out loud lol 8)
As long as there's a Florida and a Texas, I will always have spiny ray friendly States to retire in and catch bass until I shuffle off this rock. Poison away WDFW.
Welp, better gets back to bassin' before they've all dun ben kilt! Rant over. lol Smh
Post by: Russ McDonald on March 10, 2021, 07:22:34 AM
It's just more focusing on what's NOT the actual threat to the future of salmon and more excuses to waste money, land grab and ruin other fisheries in the process. Heck, I didn't even bother trying to catch a salmon last season and probably never will again.Love it and totally agree. I have fished for salmon and trout but you can't take the bass, walleye, norhterns out of MN boy
Simple rod and reel anglers don't have the financial means to fight it. Nor do we generate enough revenue for the State to just 'look the other way', or to focus their collective resources in a proper, more helpful direction.
Heaven forbid a seal or sea lion should lose its life. Or a couple thousand cormorants be removed. Or a couple netting seasons be canceled. Nope, it's those pesky walleye, bass and tiger musky. Hey WDFW, gut a few trout in this State and see what tumbles out...oops, did I type that out loud lol 8)
As long as there's a Florida and a Texas, I will always have spiny ray friendly States to retire in and catch bass until I shuffle off this rock. Poison away WDFW.
Welp, better gets back to bassin' before they've all dun ben kilt! Rant over. lol Smh
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Post by: Angry Perch on March 10, 2021, 08:05:03 AM
Post by: birdshooter1189 on March 10, 2021, 08:07:16 AM
Looking at that list, fishing in this state would suck without non-native species!
:yeah:
Post by: GWP on March 10, 2021, 08:57:41 AM
Looking at that list, fishing in this state would suck without non-native species!
I reluctantly agree...
I am a Panfish, Walleye and Cutthroat guy mainly, but am getting more into saltwater fishing of late. I really enjoy panfishing and eating them though. Caught a HUGE Pikeminnow out of Lake Washington a couple years ago. Hard to tell how many fish it had eaten over the years, but it had to be a lot.
Open up a season for the Seals and Sea Lions, or go 'unlimited' for the tribes until the numbers get under control. That would be worth hitting the locks to watch the harpooning!
Post by: Angry Perch on March 10, 2021, 09:05:59 AM
Looking at that list, fishing in this state would suck without non-native species!
I reluctantly agree...
I am a Panfish, Walleye and Cutthroat guy mainly, but am getting more into saltwater fishing of late. I really enjoy panfishing and eating them though. Caught a HUGE Pikeminnow out of Lake Washington a couple years ago. Hard to tell how many fish it had eaten over the years, but it had to be a lot.
Open up a season for the Seals and Sea Lions, or go 'unlimited' for the tribes until the numbers get under control. That would be worth hitting the locks to watch the harpooning!
Yes sir. Had some amazing lake Sammamish perch tacos last night!
Post by: GWP on March 10, 2021, 09:37:58 AM
Looking at that list, fishing in this state would suck without non-native species!
I reluctantly agree...
I am a Panfish, Walleye and Cutthroat guy mainly, but am getting more into saltwater fishing of late. I really enjoy panfishing and eating them though. Caught a HUGE Pikeminnow out of Lake Washington a couple years ago. Hard to tell how many fish it had eaten over the years, but it had to be a lot.
Open up a season for the Seals and Sea Lions, or go 'unlimited' for the tribes until the numbers get under control. That would be worth hitting the locks to watch the harpooning!
Yes sir. Had some amazing lake Sammamish perch tacos last night!
"Perch taco's" is a pair of words often heard here! Yummers!
Post by: bassquatch on March 10, 2021, 09:50:31 AM
Looking at that list, fishing in this state would suck without non-native species!
I can't help but feel that's the actual underlying intent. Get hunters out of the woods and anglers off the water, Washington State's true goal. :twocents:
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 10, 2021, 10:20:06 AM
I would like to see a lot of lakes expressly managed for the benefit of perch, crappie, walleye, pike etc. Particularly in the smaller, warmer eastside lakes where trout will never thrive.
Post by: Bullkllr on March 10, 2021, 10:47:39 AM
I would like to see a lot of lakes expressly managed for the benefit of perch, crappie, walleye, pike etc. Particularly in the smaller, warmer eastside lakes where trout will never thrive.
Aren't a lot of them already "managed" that way?
And I say "managed" because to the WDFW that means they don't have to do anything. On the west-side nearly all lowland lakes are what they call mixed species; meaning they do a token trout plant in the spring and let the rest of the species do as they will.
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 10, 2021, 10:50:25 AM
I would like to see a lot of lakes expressly managed for the benefit of perch, crappie, walleye, pike etc. Particularly in the smaller, warmer eastside lakes where trout will never thrive.
Aren't a lot of them already "managed" that way?
And I say "managed" because to the WDFW that means they don't have to do anything. On the west-side nearly all lowland lakes are what they call mixed species; meaning they do a token trout plant in the spring and let the rest of the species do as they will.
Exactly. And having 700,000,000 undersized panfish among the planter trout doesn't make it any better for anyone except for all the 49" Tiger Muskies
Post by: JJB11B on March 10, 2021, 11:28:26 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 10, 2021, 11:45:41 AM
so no spiny ray fish are native here? no catfish? I am sure there is some really important manipulated "Science" that backs it up but I believe that about as much as I believe the hype around COVID and any other gender besides Male or Female......... :o or that wolves need to be here...
Even if it's true, I disagree with the premise that native fish should overrule the management of fisheries in every situation. Particularly in lowland lakes.
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Post by: Jake Dogfish on March 10, 2021, 12:32:13 PM
It would be great if we could manage a few lakes for only one or two species but it’s just not possible without people complaining or taking things in to their own hands.
Post by: grundy53 on March 10, 2021, 12:32:34 PM
The term "native" (fill in the blank) is based on the notion that we pick an arbitrary point in time and what was there at that point is "native." Pick an earlier point and that creature isn't native. Pick a later point and a ton more is native. I've never understood why we think a certain point in time just got everything right. Nothing has been here forever, everything walked, crawled, swam or somehow got here.No kidding. Hawaiians are considered native people. Yet the pigs they brought to the islands with them are considered non native. Both arrived at the same time. Go figure.
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Post by: Angry Perch on March 10, 2021, 12:47:35 PM
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Post by: pd on March 10, 2021, 02:31:15 PM
The term "native" (fill in the blank) is based on the notion that we pick an arbitrary point in time and what was there at that point is "native." Pick an earlier point and that creature isn't native. Pick a later point and a ton more is native. I've never understood why we think a certain point in time just got everything right. Nothing has been here forever, everything walked, crawled, swam or somehow got here.No kidding. Hawaiians are considered native people. Yet the pigs they brought to the islands with them are considered non native. Both arrived at the same time. Go figure.
I never thought of that.