Post by: rosscrazyelk on April 21, 2009, 03:22:37 PM
Post by: Machias on April 21, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Post by: alecvg on April 21, 2009, 03:46:04 PM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on April 21, 2009, 03:49:06 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 21, 2009, 03:59:02 PM
report it. it is part of our duty as responsible stewards of the outdoors. it is easy and you can even do it online and/or anonymously...though you should do it over the phone as soon as you can if you don't have a cell or don't have service.
Post by: rasbo on April 21, 2009, 04:03:30 PM
Post by: agchawk on April 21, 2009, 04:10:26 PM
for the life of me i can never understand why people want to know if it is worth reporting. please don't take this the wrong way. this is the 3rd or 4th threead this spring on whether or not someone should report a potential wildlife crime.
report it. it is part of our duty as responsible stewards of the outdoors. it is easy and you can even do it online and/or anonymously...though you should do it over the phone as soon as you can if you don't have a cell or don't have service.
I was thinkin' the same thing. You know, if it's worth enough of your time to log onto the computer, create a new thread topic, type the thing up, and post it then it is most certainly worth reporting to the Game Department IMO.
Post by: heavy hauler on April 21, 2009, 09:16:24 PM
Post by: hoytem on April 21, 2009, 11:08:25 PM
Post by: Tim on April 22, 2009, 05:25:54 AM
Post by: farmin4u_98948 on April 22, 2009, 06:24:39 AM
Post by: funkster on April 22, 2009, 07:48:03 AM
i have found dozens of elk skulls at st helens with the skull plate cut or the antlers cut off like sheds.they starved to death. maybe that is the case there.or maybe someone legally killed a elk and cut the skull plate :twocents:
:yeah:
Post by: littlebuf on April 22, 2009, 08:02:31 AM
Post by: Coasthunterjay on April 22, 2009, 08:43:02 AM
he listened to everything i had to say and then proceeded to tell me that it was probably a tribal kill.......
didnt look like any tribal kill to me and it wasnt on the reservation. It was on an open loggin road....right off the side of the road.....they just shot it, took the meat, and nothing else....no horns nothing.....JUST LEFT EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
But the thing was...all the GMU's up here i believe are 3 point or better........BAD JU-JU IF I SAY.
I REPORTED AND NOTHING HAPENED BUT YOU MIGHT GET LUCKY IN YOUR CASE.....ATLEAST THEY TOOK THE HORNS.
Post by: jackelope on April 22, 2009, 08:47:27 AM
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ATLEAST THEY TOOK THE HORNS.
really?
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they just shot it, took the meat, and nothing else....no horns nothing.....JUST LEFT EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.i would think the important thing to take if you're gonna kill an elk would be the meat. i'm not sure i understand your post.
Post by: boneaddict on April 22, 2009, 09:03:14 AM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on April 23, 2009, 12:27:44 PM
Post by: Machias on April 23, 2009, 12:31:58 PM
Post by: Cascade_Sherpa on April 23, 2009, 07:05:48 PM
just on a side not, i submitted a report about two weeks ago now. left my name number and haven't heard from the game department once :dunno: i will continue to report any illegal activity i may encounter in the woods because that's the right thing to do, but more and more im starting to believe that fish and game really doesn't care unless it makes the news. sad
This is the second or third post with this kind of response. Unfortunately for ALL of us, I've had the same kind of response from OUR public servants the Fish and Wildlife department. Several years back while hunting a three point and better area of the St. Helens tree farm, my dad and I found two dead spike bulls in different locations in a single day. It appeared both bulls were mistakenly shot and left to spoil and bloat. We took the time to record everything we found and phone the game department with locations and descriptions. We weren't expecting appreciation, or any major applause from anybody. It just seem like the right thing to do. What we got was a very short and pointed conversation from the local warden who asked us what our motivations were for reporting the 'incident'. When we told him we weren't sure what he was suggesting, he said "look guys, you aren't going to get any bonus points out of this". As if that was the only thing that a couple of hunters could be interested in. The whole thing totally pissed me off, we thought we were doing the right thing and were made to feel like we committed a crime by the very person whose job it was to protect law abiding citizens and game animals!
Post by: elksnout on April 23, 2009, 09:14:06 PM
Post by: 300rum on April 23, 2009, 09:48:18 PM
Post by: groundhog on April 24, 2009, 08:02:56 AM
Post by: Rob on April 24, 2009, 08:30:17 AM
a guy i used to work with found a four point bull skeleton and cut the antlers off, then brought them to work. he didn't know you're supposed to leave 'em if the skull is intact(does anyone know why?). simple enough mistake...I didn't report him. :dunno:
I had never heard this before... Is this really true???
Post by: Coasthunterjay on April 24, 2009, 08:38:22 AM
QuoteATLEAST THEY TOOK THE HORNS.
really?Quotethey just shot it, took the meat, and nothing else....no horns nothing.....JUST LEFT EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.i would think the important thing to take if you're gonna kill an elk would be the meat. i'm not sure i understand your post.
my point was because only the meat on what i found was taken that the gamewarden didnt do anything....
I HATE TO SEE AN ANIMAL GET POACHED.......for meat, body parts, fun, whatever....doesnt matter.
But with the horns taken he might have more of a claim that the gamey might listen to...thats all i was saying...
gamey didnt even care about what i had to say when i found a illegal sized animal killed....
Post by: Coasthunterjay on April 24, 2009, 08:41:21 AM
Well, I called it in but the attitude of the person on the other end of the phone sounded like he did not give one ounce of care in the world..
my point exactly....thats basically what i got also.......
terriable man....wish someone cared out there.........but they might be doing something that w dont know about and just not making a big deal out of it.....it is there job and they probably get tired hearing about it.
we probably just take it differenty not being in the middle of it all the time....
Either way if i see it again, ide still call it in.....its the right thing to do!
Post by: alecvg on April 24, 2009, 07:13:09 PM
a guy i used to work with found a four point bull skeleton and cut the antlers off, then brought them to work. he didn't know you're supposed to leave 'em if the skull is intact(does anyone know why?). simple enough mistake...I didn't report him. :dunno:
I had never heard this before... Is this really true???
Yes, it is illegal to take a skull, though the wardens don't seem to enforce it so much from what I have heard.
Post by: Cascade_Sherpa on April 25, 2009, 08:19:11 AM
Post by: boneaddict on April 25, 2009, 08:31:29 AM
for example th ebuck I found yesterday was in velvet, and had chew marks and thus not worth much as a trophy. I am betting that after e-mails and calls are made, they will OK me to go get it. If not, I will give them the coordinates and they can. I also believe if its a big trophy, then they would probably keep it. I do know a gal who even got permission to keep a ram skull this last year. That shocked me.
Post by: mossback91 on April 25, 2009, 08:38:37 AM
Post by: boneaddict on April 25, 2009, 08:43:17 AM
Post by: Cascade_Sherpa on April 26, 2009, 09:30:07 AM
Post by: elkkiller on May 05, 2009, 08:54:38 PM
just on a side not, i submitted a report about two weeks ago now. left my name number and haven't heard from the game department once :dunno: i will continue to report any illegal activity i may encounter in the woods because that's the right thing to do, but more and more im starting to believe that fish and game really doesn't care unless it makes the news. sad:yeah:
Post by: Hillbilly270 on May 05, 2009, 09:13:15 PM
Post by: littlebuf on May 05, 2009, 10:12:50 PM