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Title: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on March 11, 2021, 06:50:39 AM: Figured it would be cool to start a simple thread for past successful hunters, on how they got their spring bear (spot and stalk in fresh grass, calling, etc), and what date (late may, early June, etc).

My son will be hunting most of the season, but concentrating near the later part.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: MooseZ25 on March 11, 2021, 08:15:00 AM: This is my opinion on the NE spring bear hunt units. Biggest mistake I think unsuccessful spring bear hunters make hunting too early in the season. Everybody is so excited to come over here and get stuck in the snow and mud I guess. Best is to wait till mid may and June. Some years differ but the grass is growing, roads are dried up and all the bears are out and about. Second is they don't give them self enough time to hunt. I hear it all the time about we hunted two days and didn't see anything. Give yourself time. Plan for multiple weekends and and put the tag to use. As a resident of NE Washington it really is upsetting knowing one of our spring bear tags went unfilled. We are overrun with predators and bear are just another apex predator that needs to be managed. Every time I ask WDFW why we don't have more spring tags allowed I am told it's because of the lack of harvest on the issued tags. KILL A BEAR if you draw a spring tag. This year I drew a Aladdin unit tag and I will be killing a bear I saw last spring. It a dandy bear.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: hunter399 on March 12, 2021, 04:33:03 PM: Wanttohuntmore replied to your PM .

I have never harvested a spring bear ,so my knowledge is some what mute.
With that said have lived and hunted the NE corner my whole life.
I've only shot three bears my whole life.
All three I was out "Hunting bears" .
First bear was driving around at first lite ,just happened to see one and shot it.
Second bear about the same been driving around and stoped to take a leak,looked across the drainage bear there ,shot that one.
The third I was out hiking at Sun up ,shot it late mourning,packed it out ,took most of the day.

The point I'm getting at is I'm no expert guys.
Remember that when you PM me .
I do know some areas this and that.But I'm no bear expert.

With all that said.
Goodluck to all Turkey and bear hunters coming this way.
Turkey opening might be a good idea to have a shovel,tire chains,and a tow strap.For the mud.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: KFhunter on March 12, 2021, 04:47:33 PM: Quote from: MooseZ25 on March 11, 2021, 08:15:00 AM
This is my opinion on the NE spring bear hunt units. Biggest mistake I think unsuccessful spring bear hunters make hunting too early in the season. Everybody is so excited to come over here and get stuck in the snow and mud I guess. Best is to wait till mid may and June. Some years differ but the grass is growing, roads are dried up and all the bears are out and about. Second is they don't give them self enough time to hunt. I hear it all the time about we hunted two days and didn't see anything. Give yourself time. Plan for multiple weekends and and put the tag to use. As a resident of NE Washington it really is upsetting knowing one of our spring bear tags went unfilled. We are overrun with predators and bear are just another apex predator that needs to be managed. Every time I ask WDFW why we don't have more spring tags allowed I am told it's because of the lack of harvest on the issued tags. KILL A BEAR if you draw a spring tag. This year I drew a Aladdin unit tag and I will be killing a bear I saw last spring. It a dandy bear.
1000%

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Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 12, 2021, 05:09:52 PM: 3 years ago I spent 17 days hunting and learning the area. Seen 4 bear, 2 together. One shot opportunity that I calculated angle drop wrong. I'll be spending more than 17 days if that's what it takes this year. I don't think anyone should plan on a 3 day success story.
I plan on conserving fuel and hunting a lot of hours. Maybe I have an edge this year. :)
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 12, 2021, 05:14:47 PM: Maybe that was 5, but do you count a grizzly on the wrong side?
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: ThurstonCokid on March 12, 2021, 05:23:03 PM: I have never shot a spring bear before. But i plan to this year. Mid may-June i plan to take 3 day weekends and get after it. Lots of glassing and lots of time working a new area. I’ve hunted the unit before but never for bear. I’ve also harvested a bear but not spring. I’m thrilled to get the chance and feel super blessed to draw! If anyone has any tricks I am eager to hear them. I appreciate the mass of information many of you drop regularly and I’d love to reduce the NE bear pop. By 1 this spring.

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Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ridgeratt on March 12, 2021, 05:30:32 PM: Quote from: Ghost Hunter on March 12, 2021, 05:09:52 PM
Maybe I have an edge this year. :)

If you leave the kitchen window open they should be able to smell the bacon.
And what ever anyone says that is not baiting. ☺☺☺

Just don't stroll to the outhouse wearing the bacon necklace.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 12, 2021, 05:37:01 PM: Just got the tripod Deathgrip head for the 'bow today. :tup:
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Rob on March 12, 2021, 06:06:05 PM: Tagging along. I accept all the advise offered!

Will be in Kelly Hill this spring.

Totally agree on the timing comment from moosez25. I hit Sherman hard a couple years back and May is when it turned on.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on March 13, 2021, 07:10:14 AM: To clarify my OP, I was looking more for responses from past successful hunters in the spring. Trying to correlate a trend in what technique was used and about what date. Trying to determine if one method and timing is most successful. All my bear have been spot and stalk except one which was called. To be fair I've rarely called in the past.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: boneaddict on March 13, 2021, 07:25:53 AM: People hunt too early, get frustrated and move on with their spring.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on March 13, 2021, 07:31:28 AM: Quote from: boneaddict on March 13, 2021, 07:25:53 AM
People hunt too early, get frustrated and move on with their spring.

I think you nailed it. I'm guessing the few springers taken are random spot and stalk too.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 13, 2021, 07:32:21 AM: Quote from: ThurstonCokid on March 12, 2021, 05:23:03 PM
I have never shot a spring bear before. But i plan to this year. Mid may-June i plan to take 3 day weekends and get after it. Lots of glassing and lots of time working a new area. I’ve hunted the unit before but never for bear. I’ve also harvested a bear but not spring. I’m thrilled to get the chance and feel super blessed to draw! If anyone has any tricks I am eager to hear them. I appreciate the mass of information many of you drop regularly and I’d love to reduce the NE bear pop. By 1 this spring.

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Solid plan. :tup:
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: trophyhunt on March 13, 2021, 08:18:29 AM: I spent 17 days hunting spring bear last season, saw 20 bears. Spend as much time out there as you can, even if it’s quick weekend trips. You will eventually find a bear with enough time. Glass you butt off, watch that damn wind, they can smell like crazy. Really take the time if you see a bear to check for small Cubs, the new Cubs can be pretty small and hard to see. If you see two bears together and about the same age, the one in the rear should be the male, he should be pushing her. Be prepared, rutting boars are like rutting deer, always on the move, they just don’t stop much. I’m jealous, even though I drew the past two years, I miss it already. Good luck all!!
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: MooseZ25 on March 17, 2021, 07:41:03 AM: I spotted my first bear for 2021 in Douglas Unit the other day. Spot and stalk is my preferred method to hunt spring bears. Lot's of time on the glass around areas I find a sign that interests me. May when the bear start to rut can be awesome. Find the sign find the bear.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: dilleytech on March 17, 2021, 07:45:27 AM: Quote from: MooseZ25 on March 17, 2021, 07:41:03 AM
I spotted my first bear for 2021 in Douglas Unit the other day. Spot and stalk is my preferred method to hunt spring bears. Lot's of time on the glass around areas I find a sign that interests me. May when the bear start to rut can be awesome. Find the sign find the bear.

Do you think it really matters what direction a slope is facing or just wherever the green is? The unit I’ll be hunting seems to be mostly clear cuts mixed with thick forest.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: jrebel on March 17, 2021, 07:52:23 AM: Been successful on many hunts with me, family and friends. Find food, find sign and find bears. Good grass (not big blade grass), water, piles of poop (everywhere) and then find the bear. I spend a ton of time behind the glass and moving from a couple different areas that have sign. Good Luck.

I have tried calling with very little success....but I also have no idea what I am doing.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Rob on March 17, 2021, 07:53:42 AM: My opinion is that the direction the slope faces is not important, the green is. However the catch is, the green is made by the sun, and the sun hits southern slopes first and longest.

So north facing green is fine, but in rarer supply.

But I have chased bears for years without success so take any of my advice with a grain of salt!
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: MooseZ25 on March 17, 2021, 08:04:16 AM: Quote from: dilleytech on March 17, 2021, 07:45:27 AM
Quote from: MooseZ25 on March 17, 2021, 07:41:03 AM
I spotted my first bear for 2021 in Douglas Unit the other day. Spot and stalk is my preferred method to hunt spring bears. Lot's of time on the glass around areas I find a sign that interests me. May when the bear start to rut can be awesome. Find the sign find the bear.

Do you think it really matters what direction a slope is facing or just wherever the green is? The unit I’ll be hunting seems to be mostly clear cuts mixed with thick forest.

I always chase the green early in the spring season. Later when everything greens up I will look for sign like scat or tracks in the mud.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: boneaddict on March 17, 2021, 08:06:09 AM: Remember those big bears with the humps on their backs aren’t black bears
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: dilleytech on March 17, 2021, 09:10:14 AM: Quote from: boneaddict on March 17, 2021, 08:06:09 AM
Remember those big bears with the humps on their backs aren’t black bears

Are there really very many? Say percentage of grizz to black?
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: jrebel on March 17, 2021, 09:19:53 AM: Quote from: dilleytech on March 17, 2021, 09:10:14 AM
Quote from: boneaddict on March 17, 2021, 08:06:09 AM
Remember those big bears with the humps on their backs aren’t black bears

Are there really very many? Say percentage of grizz to black?

Just a big color phase is all..... :o
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: HillHound on March 17, 2021, 09:54:40 AM: What I want to know is who’s fault is it if a grizzly gets shot in an area where they are not forcing the hunters to take the identification test. They are doing their due diligence by forcing us to be able to identify them in certain areas. Seems like it would be a pretty good defense if someone accidentally shot one in an area where the test is not required. Or are they treating them like mule deer and Blacktail. Once the mule deer cross the Columbia crest Trail it becomes a Blacktail So once the grizzly leaves the units they have id tests for does he become a black bear?
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: birddogdad on March 17, 2021, 10:08:24 AM: Quote from: HillHound on March 17, 2021, 09:54:40 AM
What I want to know is who’s fault is it if a grizzly gets shot in an area where they are not forcing the hunters to take the identification test. They are doing their due diligence by forcing us to be able to identify them in certain areas. Seems like it would be a pretty good defense if someone accidentally shot one in an area where the test is not required. Or are they treating them like mule deer and Blacktail. Once the mule deer cross the Columbia crest Trail it becomes a Blacktail So once the grizzly leaves the units they have id tests for does he become a black bear?

asked a similar question to WDFW calling in a wolf sighting a couple years ago... was told "sir, there are no wolves there" i followed with "then its ok for me to shoot that trophy coyote when i see it again right?" .. and then silence...
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: HillHound on March 17, 2021, 10:16:07 AM: Quote from: MooseZ25 on March 17, 2021, 07:41:03 AM
I spotted my first bear for 2021 in Douglas Unit the other day. Spot and stalk is my preferred method to hunt spring bears. Lot's of time on the glass around areas I find a sign that interests me. May when the bear start to rut can be awesome. Find the sign find the bear.
That’s great to hear you’re seeing them up and moving around. Can I ask what time of day you saw it?
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: MooseZ25 on March 18, 2021, 07:56:26 AM: Quote from: HillHound on March 17, 2021, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: MooseZ25 on March 17, 2021, 07:41:03 AM
I spotted my first bear for 2021 in Douglas Unit the other day. Spot and stalk is my preferred method to hunt spring bears. Lot's of time on the glass around areas I find a sign that interests me. May when the bear start to rut can be awesome. Find the sign find the bear.
That’s great to hear you’re seeing them up and moving around. Can I ask what time of day you saw it?

It was mid day after the sun came up and was shining on a south facing hillside.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: hunter399 on March 18, 2021, 08:34:40 AM: Quote from: MooseZ25 on March 18, 2021, 07:56:26 AM
Quote from: HillHound on March 17, 2021, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: MooseZ25 on March 17, 2021, 07:41:03 AM
I spotted my first bear for 2021 in Douglas Unit the other day. Spot and stalk is my preferred method to hunt spring bears. Lot's of time on the glass around areas I find a sign that interests me. May when the bear start to rut can be awesome. Find the sign find the bear.
That’s great to hear you’re seeing them up and moving around. Can I ask what time of day you saw it?

It was mid day after the sun came up and was shining on a south facing hillside.
WOW :yike:
Already up and moving.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: bhawley76 on March 18, 2021, 10:07:00 AM: I seen one yesterday run across the road, It was a small cinnamon that looked like he needed a cheeseburger or 3.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Machias on March 18, 2021, 11:51:00 AM: And this is why guys get fired up and start hunting early. You start reading all the bear sightings and you get fired up and rip roar out of the gate and hunt your tail off and then by the end of April you are flat out wore out and haven't seen a dang thing and oh the crappie are biting....Wow, it's already the end of the season? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: hunter399 on March 18, 2021, 12:52:01 PM: Quote from: Machias on March 18, 2021, 11:51:00 AM
And this is why guys get fired up and start hunting early. You start reading all the bear sightings and you get fired up and rip roar out of the gate and hunt your tail off and then by the end of April you are flat out wore out and haven't seen a dang thing and oh the crappie are biting....Wow, it's already the end of the season? :chuckle: :chuckle:
That does have some truth to it. :dunno:
Also some maybe Turkey hunting ,might as well throw the rifle in ,do a little bear scout/hunting while you have filled the tank with gas to go hunting any way.
There will always be a few tag holder that only hunt a few weekends ,early or late any way.
I hope that many tags will get filled ,reality says probably not,but ohh well it's still fun just getting out there with about forty ticks on ya. :tup:
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: jrebel on March 18, 2021, 12:53:20 PM: One thing to remember....usually the first bears out of the dens are the big boars. You may not see as many but you could find the big daddy. :o

If your gonna hunt early....only do so on the warmer days.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 18, 2021, 02:34:06 PM: I'll be in the middle of bear country early. Pick and choose which day to hunt, which day to fish, which day to build fence, and which day to set and enjoy the quiet. Oh Lord, It's going to be a good spring.
:brew: I'll keep a few yellow jacket's in the creek. :tup:
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 23, 2021, 11:27:47 AM: I plan on playing the odds, hunting for a mature boar with a quality color phase pelt and low fat meat. Won't be hunting out of my truck like I was three years ago and have more time to work with. It would be the first and likely the last pelt I keep. I plan on continuing applying for spring bear and dragging the pelt out as long as required. Whatever it takes to keep the season.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 02, 2021, 07:36:29 PM: Was it that black yearling on Pierre Lake Rd that I kept seeing?
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ridgeratt on April 02, 2021, 07:42:54 PM: No sir. Said that it had a ginger tint!!
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: jrebel on April 02, 2021, 07:52:59 PM: I'll be checking the cams this week to see what is waking up. I suspect we will have a few running around but the masses are still hanging out in...or close to the den with the cold nights.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 02, 2021, 08:05:39 PM: Quote from: Ridgeratt on April 02, 2021, 07:42:54 PM
No sir. Said that it had a ginger tint!!

Ahhh. That scruffy little thing the wolves didn't get. :chuckle: Judy would smile. :)
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: hunter399 on April 02, 2021, 08:28:47 PM: Ya I've had that feeling that there might be something around.
Snow is melting fast...... :yike:
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 02, 2021, 08:56:30 PM: Looks like I'll be staying in the trees. :yike:
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: polishstunner on April 03, 2021, 07:34:32 AM: Quote from: Machias on March 18, 2021, 11:51:00 AM
And this is why guys get fired up and start hunting early. You start reading all the bear sightings and you get fired up and rip roar out of the gate and hunt your tail off and then by the end of April you are flat out wore out and haven't seen a dang thing and oh the crappie are biting....Wow, it's already the end of the season? :chuckle: :chuckle:
:yeah:
This quote is perfectly said. Maybe add that the credit card is smoking from the gas stations.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 03, 2021, 09:18:45 AM: I'll burn all my fuel getting to hunting camp. From there I walk and whistle them in. :fire.: :hunter:
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: actionshooter on April 03, 2021, 01:25:24 PM: good thread...
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 10, 2021, 07:53:14 AM: Don't get in too big a rush. I think they will be crawling deep into the dens this weekend.

Northeast Mountains-Okanogan Highlands-
Including the cities of Colville, Deer Park, Chewelah, Newport,
Kettle Falls, Republic, Inchelium, and Wauconda
412 AM PDT Sat Apr 10 2021

...Near Record Low Temperatures from tonight through Sunday... <>

TODAY...Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow showers. Highs in the mid to upper 40s. West wind 5 to 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.

TONIGHT...Mostly clear. Lows 19 to 26. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph in the evening, becoming light.

SUNDAY...Sunny. Highs in the lower to mid 50s.

SUNDAY NIGHT...Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 20s to lower 30s.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ridgeratt on April 10, 2021, 08:48:03 AM: Watching the snow levels building up. There's some wind so watch out for drifting. 😲
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: vandeman17 on April 10, 2021, 08:56:35 AM: Snowing here at my house in wenatchee. I think mid May is about the prime time
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: jrebel on April 10, 2021, 11:21:55 AM: Had my first bear on camera for the year 4/6. It was a big boar which is pretty typical as they always come out first. The last three years of running cameras in this particular area has bears waking up this time of year....but usually only the big boars and usually very nocturnal. The masses will be waking up in the next couple weeks.

Good luck to all the spring bear hunters this year.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: ROBBIELEEW on April 11, 2021, 07:08:11 AM: Seen 3 separate bears in yesterday between 700 and 1000 ft,so that's a good elevation to start.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 11, 2021, 07:41:30 AM: Quote from: ROBBIELEEW on April 11, 2021, 07:08:11 AM
Seen 3 separate bears in yesterday between 700 and 1000 ft,so that's a good elevation to start.

Where most of the NW bears will be. :tup:
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: HooknoseHunter on April 11, 2021, 06:11:31 PM: I spent the weekend at my property by the border. There’s still 2 feet of snow where the sun doesn’t hit so I couldn’t get my four wheeler to my camera spots. I don’t think the bears have come out yet in my area but I’ve already seen more elk up there in the last month than I saw all of last year.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on April 11, 2021, 08:25:13 PM: Quote from: Ghost Hunter on April 11, 2021, 07:41:30 AM
Quote from: ROBBIELEEW on April 11, 2021, 07:08:11 AM
Seen 3 separate bears in yesterday between 700 and 1000 ft,so that's a good elevation to start.

I didn't even know there were elevations that low in the northeast!

Where most of the NW bears will be. :tup:
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ridgeratt on April 11, 2021, 08:39:00 PM: Right now the water level on lake Roosevelt is 1271.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on April 11, 2021, 09:27:30 PM: Quote from: Ridgeratt on April 11, 2021, 08:39:00 PM
Right now the water level on lake Roosevelt is 1271.

So they hibernate underwater??? :)
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 11, 2021, 10:07:00 PM: Quote from: Wanttohuntmore on April 11, 2021, 09:27:30 PM
Quote from: Ridgeratt on April 11, 2021, 08:39:00 PM
Right now the water level on lake Roosevelt is 1271.

So they hibernate underwater??? :)

Pull the plug and flush them out.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: huntnnw on April 11, 2021, 10:17:47 PM: if you are limited on time or traveling long distances Id suggest not even wasting your time till May 10th and later. If you live close or can go whenever then it doesnt hurt to look. I have seen bears in April in NE units, but they lethargic and sightings are low compared to May and June.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: X-Force on April 11, 2021, 10:41:04 PM: Quote from: huntnnw on April 11, 2021, 10:17:47 PM
if you are limited on time or traveling long distances Id suggest not even wasting your time till May 10th and later. If you live close or can go whenever then it doesnt hurt to look. I have seen bears in April in NE units, but they lethargic and sightings are low compared to May and June.

Solid advice for west side units too.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on April 12, 2021, 06:38:30 AM: I'm curious what techniques were used in the past to get spring bear, spot and stalk probably most used... How about calling?
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: hunter399 on April 12, 2021, 08:42:28 AM: Watch this all bear hunters
Very informative.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: dilleytech on April 12, 2021, 11:24:23 AM: Grizzly bear have a hump and black bears do not. Except sometimes back bear do... when it comes to mature bears it’s pretty obvious but a young grizz and black sure are tough to me.
Title: Re: Spring bear in the northeast techniques and times
Post by: hunter399 on April 12, 2021, 12:08:34 PM: Ya ,
I'm not getting close enough to a grizz to check the claws,
At that point really past the point of too close.
But still pretty informative video though.