Post by: Longbow 58 on March 22, 2021, 09:47:45 PM
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Post by: Bob33 on March 25, 2021, 09:36:27 PM
What's it take to get the permit? Does a torn rotator cuff documented with an MRI suffice? Not for me but a few others I know.Only after it could not be surgically repaired.
Post by: scotbradly726 on March 29, 2021, 08:50:44 AM
What's it take to get the permit? Does a torn rotator cuff documented with an MRI suffice? Not for me but a few others I know.Only after it could not be surgically repaired.
Or if it is surgically repaired, but still has significant enough permanent damage.
You have to wait 12 month after surgery (or determination that surgery will not repair) before you can even apply.
I'm going in for my appointment on June 14th with my doc to see if I qualify or not. I don't think I'll ever get strong enough to pull a bow back and hold it well enough to ethically take a shot on a live animal. So, fingers crossed!!!!
Post by: dvolmer on March 30, 2021, 08:35:38 AM
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Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 31, 2021, 03:48:52 PM
I just got my special weapon use permit at the end of last year as well. Had the companion card for a couple of years and now I'm looking forward to coming back into the hunting aspect of the group instead of the camp kitchen guy ha ha. I've had multiple surgeries and can't bird hunt anymore along with rifle hunting. The family does archery and it sure feels good to part of the team again. Yes, you can use a scope, however according to what they tell me from the state the scope must come attached as part of the purchase of the crossbow. I just recently went through it all and honestly the state people in Olympia were great to deal with and walked me through the entire process.
Raises an interesting question. A lot of crossbows are sold as a package with scope. Will these crossbow with 2 - 8x scopes be legal for everyone during muzzleloader season?
Post by: OutHouse on March 31, 2021, 03:52:26 PM
You can use a scope on a crossbow during archery season with the disability permit
Weird. Seems kinda unfair the disability is for the shoulder or something else not the eyes so why allow optics?
Post by: emac on March 31, 2021, 06:18:14 PM
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Post by: dvolmer on March 31, 2021, 06:41:40 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 31, 2021, 06:56:24 PM
I just got my special weapon use permit at the end of last year as well. Had the companion card for a couple of years and now I'm looking forward to coming back into the hunting aspect of the group instead of the camp kitchen guy ha ha. I've had multiple surgeries and can't bird hunt anymore along with rifle hunting. The family does archery and it sure feels good to part of the team again. Yes, you can use a scope, however according to what they tell me from the state the scope must come attached as part of the purchase of the crossbow. I just recently went through it all and honestly the state people in Olympia were great to deal with and walked me through the entire process.
Raises an interesting question. A lot of crossbows are sold as a package with scope. Will these crossbow with 2 - 8x scopes be legal for everyone during muzzleloader season?
I’m guessing it will match the 1x scope or red dot change for muzzys if it passes. There is a lot of 1x crossbow scopes and 1x red dots and I’m guessing that is what you will be able to use on a cross bow during muzzle season.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 31, 2021, 07:06:27 PM
My personal opinion on all of this (and its just my two cents for what that's worth), is that a person with a multi-season permit should not be allowed to use a crossbow. Many hunters will tell you that a crossbow is the most deadliest weapon around. Especially with a scope. 100 yard range, extremely accurate, and quite.
Are these crossbow hunters? Does a compound bow make noise? Try amplifying that. Why are some of the compound bow guys shooting out to 100 yards? Because they can.
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on March 31, 2021, 07:11:13 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 31, 2021, 07:24:06 PM
I honestly see some disadvantages with the crossbow, weight, awkwardness, slow loading... but when the time comes I think it's great for keeping those with bad shoulders out hunting. I really don't think a scope on one helps, but understand the complexity of getting an open sight on one is tough these days.
My wife is an average at best vertical bow shot. 45 minutes after buying a crossbow and scope setup, she could accurately shoot to 50 yards better than I can shoot my vertical bow.
She killed three deer a couple days later with that setup, one was a quartering away shot at 42 yards.
Post by: slim9300 on March 31, 2021, 08:08:51 PM
Exactly. An 8 year old child can shoot 2” groups at 50 yards easily from a rest. I have watched it multiple times now. I’m not against Crossbows at all, they just should not be allowed during regular archery seasons unless it’s a youth or disabled hunter. I can easily shoot sub 6” groups at 100 yards with one also.I honestly see some disadvantages with the crossbow, weight, awkwardness, slow loading... but when the time comes I think it's great for keeping those with bad shoulders out hunting. I really don't think a scope on one helps, but understand the complexity of getting an open sight on one is tough these days.
My wife is an average at best vertical bow shot. 45 minutes after buying a crossbow and scope setup, she could accurately shoot to 50 yards better than I can shoot my vertical bow.
She killed three deer a couple days later with that setup, one was a quartering away shot at 42 yards.
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Post by: slim9300 on March 31, 2021, 08:13:12 PM
My personal opinion on all of this (and its just my two cents for what that's worth), is that a person with a multi-season permit should not be allowed to use a crossbow. Many hunters will tell you that a crossbow is the most deadliest weapon around. Especially with a scope. 100 yard range, extremely accurate, and quite. I hunt a ranch in Eastern Washington for deer. I usually get the multi-season tag and hunt the earlier muzzleloader season and the modern rifle season. I don't hunt the late archery season because it seems to be impossible to get the deer in the 40 yard range you need for a shot in the open country (believe me I have had numerous friends try and they are very accomplished bow hunters). The late archery season is right in the middle of the rut and getting 80-100 yards away from the deer is very doable but under 50 is practically impossible. The big bucks come out of the woodwork during this time during the rut and I go up and film them every year during the late archery timeframe. Hunting that with a crossbow would be devastating for the vulnerable bucks. Pretty crazy if you ask me. I have had both of my rotator cuffs, labrum, and one of my bicep tendons repaired with multiple surgeries (4 separate surgeries). I have never bow hunted to date, and now you are telling me I can go in and get a doctors note and start hunting mule deer in the rut with one of the deadliest weapons made??? Sounds pretty crazy if you ask me. One more perk of living in a *censored* Liberal whacked-out state if you ask me! But then again, you probably didn't ask........ :oIt’s much harder to get than you think and they do everything not to give them out. My old man tried and he had all of the doctors paperwork filled out plus hasn’t been able to pull even a 50# bow for 5-6 years. We archery hunted together for over a decade before that. He has the disabled permit but they have denied his crossbow permit twice.
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Post by: dvolmer on March 31, 2021, 10:47:58 PM
My personal opinion on all of this (and its just my two cents for what that's worth), is that a person with a multi-season permit should not be allowed to use a crossbow. Many hunters will tell you that a crossbow is the most deadliest weapon around. Especially with a scope. 100 yard range, extremely accurate, and quite. I hunt a ranch in Eastern Washington for deer. I usually get the multi-season tag and hunt the earlier muzzleloader season and the modern rifle season. I don't hunt the late archery season because it seems to be impossible to get the deer in the 40 yard range you need for a shot in the open country (believe me I have had numerous friends try and they are very accomplished bow hunters). The late archery season is right in the middle of the rut and getting 80-100 yards away from the deer is very doable but under 50 is practically impossible. The big bucks come out of the woodwork during this time during the rut and I go up and film them every year during the late archery timeframe. Hunting that with a crossbow would be devastating for the vulnerable bucks. Pretty crazy if you ask me. I have had both of my rotator cuffs, labrum, and one of my bicep tendons repaired with multiple surgeries (4 separate surgeries). I have never bow hunted to date, and now you are telling me I can go in and get a doctors note and start hunting mule deer in the rut with one of the deadliest weapons made??? Sounds pretty crazy if you ask me. One more perk of living in a *censored* Liberal whacked-out state if you ask me! But then again, you probably didn't ask........ :oIt’s much harder to get than you think and they do everything not to give them out. My old man tried and he had all of the doctors paperwork filled out plus hasn’t been able to pull even a 50# bow for 5-6 years. We archery hunted together for over a decade before that. He has the disabled permit but they have denied his crossbow permit twice.
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Good point Slim. I have no idea what hoops you have to jump through to get the status. I'm sure this will be a great thing for those who truly miss bow hunting due to physical issues. I just have a worry about the abuse some could do with it. We will have to wait and see how it all comes out in the wash. I haven't shot a compound bow in over 35 years and have never fired a crossbow so all I can really go on is what I have heard and been told. Will be interesting to see the outcome.
Post by: OutHouse on April 01, 2021, 09:08:09 AM
The reason Optics are allowed is because almost every single crossbow comes with a scope and there are not very many manufacturers that make open sights and the open sites are expensive I know cuz I have one sitting in a box because when I got my special use permit scope for not legal on crossbows
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Oh okay I didn't know that. Time to go have my shoulder checked out! Kidding :chuckle:
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 01, 2021, 09:31:16 AM
The reason Optics are allowed is because almost every single crossbow comes with a scope and there are not very many manufacturers that make open sights and the open sites are expensive I know cuz I have one sitting in a box because when I got my special use permit scope for not legal on crossbows
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Oh okay I didn't know that. Time to go have my shoulder checked out! Kidding :chuckle:
Don't let the scope fool you. I don't think you'll find many crossbow manufacturers promoting 100 yard shots on game animals.
Post by: Platensek-po on April 01, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
I think its a fine program, my only request would be to allow youth to have their own separate 2 or 3 day season for deer with a crossbow. I think its the perfect weapon to get kids started hunting.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 01, 2021, 10:13:10 AM
Post by: Farmer72 on June 12, 2021, 08:19:27 PM
I just got my special weapon use permit at the end of last year as well. Had the companion card for a couple of years and now I'm looking forward to coming back into the hunting aspect of the group instead of the camp kitchen guy ha ha. I've had multiple surgeries and can't bird hunt anymore along with rifle hunting. The family does archery and it sure feels good to part of the team again. Yes, you can use a scope, however according to what they tell me from the state the scope must come attached as part of the purchase of the crossbow. I just recently went through it all and honestly the state people in Olympia were great to deal with and walked me through the entire process.
Raises an interesting question. A lot of crossbows are sold as a package with scope. Will these crossbow with 2 - 8x scopes be legal for everyone during muzzleloader season?
No you can not. You can only use a crossbow during modern unless you have the disability permit which let's you use it during archery You can't use it for muzzleload season at all.
Post by: slim9300 on June 12, 2021, 09:26:39 PM
Which is insanity but I’m sure has to do with the optics.I just got my special weapon use permit at the end of last year as well. Had the companion card for a couple of years and now I'm looking forward to coming back into the hunting aspect of the group instead of the camp kitchen guy ha ha. I've had multiple surgeries and can't bird hunt anymore along with rifle hunting. The family does archery and it sure feels good to part of the team again. Yes, you can use a scope, however according to what they tell me from the state the scope must come attached as part of the purchase of the crossbow. I just recently went through it all and honestly the state people in Olympia were great to deal with and walked me through the entire process.
Raises an interesting question. A lot of crossbows are sold as a package with scope. Will these crossbow with 2 - 8x scopes be legal for everyone during muzzleloader season?
No you can not. You can only use a crossbow during modern unless you have the disability permit which let's you use it during archery You can't use it for muzzleload season at all.
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Post by: getreal711 on June 12, 2021, 10:13:10 PM