Post by: Night goat on July 23, 2021, 05:55:03 PM
The bucket and bag method that’s currently employed at my shack has gotta go
Water table is a little high (18 ft I think) for septic, I’m on a well, I’m in the mountains where it regularly freezes and gets below zero at night, and power can be intermittent in the winter so I’m pretty much sold on the idea of getting a propane incinerator toilet but just don’t know where to begin and can’t find many options online and thought I’d check with the fine folks here and see if anybody has
Any experience or anything
Post by: Ridgeratt on July 23, 2021, 06:01:13 PM
What could possibly go wrong. 🤔
Don't forget to buckle up and wear a helmet.
Post by: Mark Brenckle on July 23, 2021, 06:15:00 PM
Post by: Night goat on July 23, 2021, 06:41:45 PM
I'm wondering since you are making methane and your using propane and a open flame.
What could possibly go wrong. 🤔
Don't forget to buckle up and wear a helmet.
That’s not how that works…. You place a wax liner in the unit, do your business, and close it and it drops into a sealed combustion chamber, and the device ignites once you push the burn button and cooks it off and turns it to ash. methane would only be produced if it were stored in a sealed container. But once the liquid part is evaporated it just burns til it’s done.
It’s all sealed and is vented to the outside like any other propane fueled device. Eco friendly sanitary and clean burning
Post by: Special T on July 23, 2021, 07:01:20 PM
Where these shine is intermittent use by a couple of people. If you plan on having another couple and their kids in the wintertime you may be using the bag method anyway. :twocents:
Post by: Stein on July 23, 2021, 07:50:09 PM
I'm wondering since you are making methane and your using propane and a open flame.
What could possibly go wrong. 🤔
Don't forget to buckle up and wear a helmet.
Where are the nomination forms for 2021 post of the year? :chuckle:
Post by: Bullkllr on July 23, 2021, 08:12:08 PM
I'm wondering since you are making methane and your using propane and a open flame.
What could possibly go wrong. 🤔
Don't forget to buckle up and wear a helmet.
You're referring to the "Instant Incinerator Toilet" marketed by Ronco in the late 80s. Never really caught on, but I'll bet it was hell on a dingle berry problem.
Post by: Night goat on July 23, 2021, 11:14:52 PM
I know some one with one. They dont work as good in the cold, and if you combine that with a bunch of people it becomes even worse. This is for your cabin in the woods that your going ro have a bunch of people at in the wintertime right?
Where these shine is intermittent use by a couple of people. If you plan on having another couple and their kids in the wintertime you may be using the bag method anyway. :twocents:
No kids allowed at the shack that’s a huge rule
It’s strictly a 21+ Establishment
Primarily myself, a girlfriend, and maybe occasional weekend guest, mainly evening hours. The point of the property is to have a base camp to go off and adventure
From, not hang out at all the time This is a low key place, maybe the occasional small group like once or twice a year
Post by: Romulus1297 on July 23, 2021, 11:23:10 PM
Post by: Night goat on July 24, 2021, 12:26:59 AM
We are on the second electric incinolet toilet nice to be by a bakery early in the morning in stehekin
What’s your power consumption on that thing? Can you realistically run one on solar? The electric is obviously the most affordable but I read some need 240v and can take almost 2 hours to burn and my power isn’t very reliable in the winter. I’ve been without up to 3 weeks at a stretch before. Don’t really want to rely on the grid, although I could buy a Honda generator and an electric and still be under the cost of a propane however I don’t really feel like firing up a generator at 237am when I gotta take a grumper and listen to it run til the toilet is done cycling to shut it off or even worse fall asleep with it running and run it out of gas….
I’d much rather run out and stock up on propane once a month
Post by: Romulus1297 on July 24, 2021, 01:15:17 AM
Post by: hunter399 on July 24, 2021, 02:29:06 AM
Mmmmmm.its so good!
Post by: Jingles on July 24, 2021, 04:43:00 AM
Post by: CastleRocker on July 24, 2021, 09:10:33 AM
The issues that we had were;
The next person not waiting until the previous cycle was complete, and so there would be an incomplete burn.
Too many people using it as a urinal. It couldn't evaporate that much liquid. It did fine with around 8-10 people all day everyday. My folks would have parties, and anything over 50 people would be a headache...80-100 was a PITA!
When excess urine became an issue, the spark plug would rust, and not ignite. This would cause a pile up. So we had signage in the outhouse that said to "close the lid and wait for the roar. If no ignition, lift and close the lid a couple times, and then notify us please".
I believe it was installed around '71 or '72. In 1980 my folks were over there and Dad was building a new outhouse behind that one for urine only. (It pretty much eliminated most of the problems I listed). They were putting the roof on the morning the mountain blew.
The only reason we took it out was the bowl finally rusted out, and there were no more replacement parts to be found. I don't remember what brand it was. We definitely got our use out of it!
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 24, 2021, 06:51:01 PM
We had one for about 30 years. It was pretty simple. It had a limit switch on the lid, so when the lid was lifted, the fan came on. The user took care of business, and when the lid was shut the switch would operate a solenoid that turned on the propane, and started the spark plug sparkling. You could DEFINITELY tell when it fired, as it roared like a weed burner wide open with no regulator! There was a timer that shut off the gas after a set time, and ran the exhaust fan for awhile longer. If it was just our family with a few guests, we'd empty out the ashes every two or three days.
The issues that we had were;
The next person not waiting until the previous cycle was complete, and so there would be an incomplete burn.
Too many people using it as a urinal. It couldn't evaporate that much liquid. It did fine with around 8-10 people all day everyday. My folks would have parties, and anything over 50 people would be a headache...80-100 was a PITA!
When excess urine became an issue, the spark plug would rust, and not ignite. This would cause a pile up. So we had signage in the outhouse that said to "close the lid and wait for the roar. If no ignition, lift and close the lid a couple times, and then notify us please".
I believe it was installed around '71 or '72. In 1980 my folks were over there and Dad was building a new outhouse behind that one for urine only. (It pretty much eliminated most of the problems I listed). They were putting the roof on the morning the mountain blew.
The only reason we took it out was the bowl finally rusted out, and there were no more replacement parts to be found. I don't remember what brand it was. We definitely got our use out of it!
When ya gotta poop, ya got to poop! LOL
Post by: Tenkara on July 25, 2021, 01:42:22 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 26, 2021, 09:21:38 AM