Post by: MHWASH on July 27, 2021, 03:25:10 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2021, 05:28:59 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2021, 05:31:07 PM
Post by: Stein on July 27, 2021, 06:30:07 PM
Post by: follow maggie on July 27, 2021, 06:32:40 PM
I’d recommend not buying anything right now because you’re going to overpay for whatever it is you end up buying. The market is stupid right now. Reliable supply of new vehicles will come to us ~October per Ford.
:yeah:
Post by: slowhand on July 27, 2021, 08:16:39 PM
How about a nice used tundra? Great long lasting trucks.
Post by: actionshooter on July 27, 2021, 08:25:55 PM
I’d recommend not buying anything right now because you’re going to overpay for whatever it is you end up buying. The market is stupid right now. Reliable supply of new vehicles will come to us ~October per Ford.
Spot On.... for $25K right now your going to get a 2013 with 150K on it.... wait if you can.
As an example, my daughter just sold her 2019 Kia back to the dealer she bought it from 18 months ago and she made $6k on it.
Post by: MHWASH on July 27, 2021, 08:34:14 PM
The internet has several 2012-2014 pickups with 100k-80k for around $25 right now.
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2021, 08:38:02 PM
Waiting is definitely an option, no real reason to switch other than I want something I’ll use more. Perhaps now would be a good time to sell my Mazda while prices are good.
The internet has several 2012-2014 pickups with 100k-80k for around $25 right now.
2012 ecoboost is 2nd year and still more problematic than any of the newer body style years.
Post by: slowhand on July 27, 2021, 09:41:56 PM
It’s a common trade in vehicle at the Toyota dealer. I see it often.Waiting is definitely an option, no real reason to switch other than I want something I’ll use more. Perhaps now would be a good time to sell my Mazda while prices are good.
The internet has several 2012-2014 pickups with 100k-80k for around $25 right now.
2012 ecoboost is 2nd year and still more problematic than any of the newer body style years.
Trade in their problem child eco boost on a new tundra.
Another point… they don’t give them much for the trade, I don’t think they hold there value well.
Post by: Duckhunter14 on July 27, 2021, 09:46:16 PM
Post by: Stein on July 27, 2021, 10:24:01 PM
Post by: JakeLand on July 28, 2021, 08:17:24 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 28, 2021, 08:20:54 AM
Post by: deerlick on July 28, 2021, 08:31:04 AM
Post by: b23 on July 29, 2021, 10:42:32 AM
if you think chevy 5.3 are bulletproof you havent owned one with cylinder canceling, hope you save 9k for a new engine and while your at it go ahead and save for the tranny, silverados and f-150 keep our shop very busy. buy a tundra and dont look back.
Not saying one is any better than the other but in all fairness they sell more Ford and Chevy/GMC pickups in one month than Toyota sells Tundra's in a whole year so naturally you're going to see a lot more of those than the other.
Post by: MHWASH on July 29, 2021, 02:42:41 PM
Something else I'm wondering about is the off road type packages such as the Z71 or Ford's FX4. Do these provide a smoother or rougher ride when on rough Forest roads?
Post by: NRA4LIFE on July 29, 2021, 02:53:13 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 29, 2021, 02:56:04 PM
Post by: johnbmyersii on July 29, 2021, 02:58:39 PM
I'm not ruling Tundra's out, but I've heard the mileage isn't that great on them. Also looking for a nice ride in the mountains, not like my 3/4 ton, which I'll be keeping for the heavy hauls.
Something else I'm wondering about is the off road type packages such as the Z71 or Ford's FX4. Do these provide a smoother or rougher ride when on rough Forest roads?
Ive had a 18 f150 FX4 and currently a 20 f150 regular 4x4. I cant tell a difference between the fx4 and regular 4x4. The one nice thing about the fx4 was the hill decent control mode but I dont miss it on the new truck. If you get a ford make sure its got the locking diff
Post by: Lokaybinnity on July 29, 2021, 03:29:05 PM
Post by: bushmantom on July 29, 2021, 03:41:42 PM
No affiliation with the seller but who is paying that much fo a truck with 360,000 miles on it.
Post by: fishngamereaper on July 29, 2021, 03:55:46 PM
All my stuff now is hd stuff so no recommendations on never models.
Post by: jackelope on July 29, 2021, 04:27:30 PM
i have a 2013 f 150 with the 5.0 its a power house and i havnt had a single problem stay a way from the eco beast no replacement for displacement. a truck shouldn't need a turbo unless its a diesel.
LOL.
You should drive one of the 3.5 Ecoboosts.
I don't disagree that the 5.0 is a good engine and something that should be considered, but the 3.5 ecoboost will run circles around the 5.0 from a power standpoint, especially when towing.
Post by: vandeman17 on July 29, 2021, 04:29:37 PM
i have a 2013 f 150 with the 5.0 its a power house and i havnt had a single problem stay a way from the eco beast no replacement for displacement. a truck shouldn't need a turbo unless its a diesel.
LOL.
You should drive one of the 3.5 Ecoboosts.
I don't disagree that the 5.0 is a good engine and something that should be considered, but the 3.5 ecoboost will run circles around the 5.0 from a power standpoint, especially when towing.
I have the 3.5 ecoboost and can attest to this
Post by: slowhand on July 29, 2021, 04:37:03 PM
@slowhand - are doing away with the 5.7 in the Tundra and only going to a v-6 turbo ?Not that I am aware of.
I know we will have a hybrid model tundra next year.
In one of my tech classes I complained about having to buy a super duty to get a diesel tow vehicle. Being a Toyota master tech driving a Ford I get a lot of poo from everyone.
The instructor said he got to drive one of the pre production hybrid tundras, he said you definitely will not want a diesel after you drive the hybrid tundra (massive amounts of powers).
We will see
I love love my ‘15 6.7 diesel f350
It’s been nothing short of perfect since new
Post by: jackelope on July 29, 2021, 04:55:29 PM
Post by: actionshooter on July 29, 2021, 10:07:21 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 30, 2021, 10:56:39 AM
This is just me but I have been holding off this year because of the crazy prices... I just heard a rumor that Ford received a bunch of the computer chips they were waiting for to ship F150s out.... can't confirm if it's true (Jackelope?) but after the stockpiled trucks start hitting the lots, I'm guessing there are going to be some serious deals and 0% financing offers....We got a few new trucks and transit vans in this week. I heard rumor that they’re going to ship trucks without the chips and have us install them after the fact too. Can’t confirm that.
It’s not just trucks either. We’ve got 12-15 Focus and Fiesta’a sitting here with bad transmission control modules waiting for parts that we can’t get.
Post by: follow maggie on July 30, 2021, 02:57:10 PM
This is just me but I have been holding off this year because of the crazy prices... I just heard a rumor that Ford received a bunch of the computer chips they were waiting for to ship F150s out.... can't confirm if it's true (Jackelope?) but after the stockpiled trucks start hitting the lots, I'm guessing there are going to be some serious deals and 0% financing offers....We got a few new trucks and transit vans in this week. I heard rumor that they’re going to ship trucks without the chips and have us install them after the fact too. Can’t confirm that.
It’s not just trucks either. We’ve got 12-15 Focus and Fiesta’a sitting here with bad transmission control modules waiting for parts that we can’t get.
Saw this on the news last week. Ford is running out of storage space.
Post by: Taco280AI on July 30, 2021, 03:30:25 PM
I know we will have a hybrid model tundra next year.
The instructor said he got to drive one of the pre production hybrid tundras, he said you definitely will not want a diesel after you drive the hybrid tundra (massive amounts of powers).
A hybrid and not a twin turbo? From the rumors more power than the Ecoboost and better mileage. Will we have to get a 15 year mortgage to afford it?
Post by: jackelope on July 30, 2021, 06:52:49 PM
I know we will have a hybrid model tundra next year.
The instructor said he got to drive one of the pre production hybrid tundras, he said you definitely will not want a diesel after you drive the hybrid tundra (massive amounts of powers).
A hybrid and not a twin turbo? From the rumors more power than the Ecoboost and better mileage. Will we have to get a 15 year mortgage to afford it?
The hybrid f150 makes more power than the ecoboost now too. More tow rating too. Hybrids will take over the lead in power.
Post by: jackelope on July 30, 2021, 06:54:18 PM
This is just me but I have been holding off this year because of the crazy prices... I just heard a rumor that Ford received a bunch of the computer chips they were waiting for to ship F150s out.... can't confirm if it's true (Jackelope?) but after the stockpiled trucks start hitting the lots, I'm guessing there are going to be some serious deals and 0% financing offers....We got a few new trucks and transit vans in this week. I heard rumor that they’re going to ship trucks without the chips and have us install them after the fact too. Can’t confirm that.
It’s not just trucks either. We’ve got 12-15 Focus and Fiesta’a sitting here with bad transmission control modules waiting for parts that we can’t get.
Saw this on the news last week. Ford is running out of storage space.
Google “Ford Kentucky speedway”
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210731/fdb218a31e45681f1a7a37a4d5fbb22f.jpg)
Post by: Dan-o on July 30, 2021, 07:02:27 PM
This is just me but I have been holding off this year because of the crazy prices... I just heard a rumor that Ford received a bunch of the computer chips they were waiting for to ship F150s out.... can't confirm if it's true (Jackelope?) but after the stockpiled trucks start hitting the lots, I'm guessing there are going to be some serious deals and 0% financing offers....We got a few new trucks and transit vans in this week. I heard rumor that they’re going to ship trucks without the chips and have us install them after the fact too. Can’t confirm that.
It’s not just trucks either. We’ve got 12-15 Focus and Fiesta’a sitting here with bad transmission control modules waiting for parts that we can’t get.
Saw this on the news last week. Ford is running out of storage space.
Google “Ford Kentucky speedway”
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210731/fdb218a31e45681f1a7a37a4d5fbb22f.jpg)
I would love it if a HUGE wave of trucks came available....... and I could pick one up at a reasonable price.
Post by: follow maggie on July 30, 2021, 07:10:42 PM
Post by: actionshooter on July 30, 2021, 08:45:40 PM
This is just me but I have been holding off this year because of the crazy prices... I just heard a rumor that Ford received a bunch of the computer chips they were waiting for to ship F150s out.... can't confirm if it's true (Jackelope?) but after the stockpiled trucks start hitting the lots, I'm guessing there are going to be some serious deals and 0% financing offers....We got a few new trucks and transit vans in this week. I heard rumor that they’re going to ship trucks without the chips and have us install them after the fact too. Can’t confirm that.
It’s not just trucks either. We’ve got 12-15 Focus and Fiesta’a sitting here with bad transmission control modules waiting for parts that we can’t get.
Saw this on the news last week. Ford is running out of storage space.
Google “Ford Kentucky speedway”
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210731/fdb218a31e45681f1a7a37a4d5fbb22f.jpg)
Ya, read about that a month and a half ago and this is exactly where my speculation of great deals to come is based on.... it's insane
Post by: thinkingman on August 04, 2021, 10:03:39 PM
You’re likely to get one with a crappy rusted frame and bed, has or desperately needs suspension upgrade and then you’ve still got 20 year old technology.
2015 F150 has been flawless with 118k.
Ten years driving a Toyota and I would never go back.
Post by: Dan-o on August 04, 2021, 11:28:15 PM
Tundra is the most overrated car on the market, next to Tacoma.
You’re likely to get one with a crappy rusted frame and bed, has or desperately needs suspension upgrade and then you’ve still got 20 year old technology.
2015 F150 has been flawless with 118k.
Ten years driving a Toyota and I would never go back.
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: thinkingman on August 05, 2021, 09:18:16 AM
i have a 2013 f 150 with the 5.0 its a power house and i havnt had a single problem stay a way from the eco beast no replacement for displacement. a truck shouldn't need a turbo unless its a diesel.You sound like you know a lot about trucks.
Post by: carlyoungs on August 05, 2021, 09:23:35 AM
i have a 2013 f 150 with the 5.0 its a power house and i havnt had a single problem stay a way from the eco beast no replacement for displacement. a truck shouldn't need a turbo unless its a diesel.You sound like you know a lot about trucks.
Pot meet kettle
Post by: thinkingman on August 05, 2021, 09:27:00 AM
What would you like to know?i have a 2013 f 150 with the 5.0 its a power house and i havnt had a single problem stay a way from the eco beast no replacement for displacement. a truck shouldn't need a turbo unless its a diesel.You sound like you know a lot about trucks.
Pot meet kettle
I love this video!
Reminds me when the rear window shook loose on my Tacoma driving in the mountains.
https://youtu.be/p1LO6uxy11I (https://youtu.be/p1LO6uxy11I)
Post by: thinkingman on August 05, 2021, 09:30:14 AM
Toyota fanboys will want to turn down the volume so you can't hear the audience literally laughing at the Tundra.
https://youtu.be/EWjTbiYo3x0 (https://youtu.be/EWjTbiYo3x0)
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 05, 2021, 10:28:00 AM
• all 4 rotors at 150k miles
My next truck won't be a tundra due to the fact I can't get a crew and 6.5ft bed. It'll likely be an f150 xlt ecoboost.
Post by: rtspring on August 05, 2021, 10:55:07 AM
I bought a used 2007 Toyota tundra with 38k miles on it in 2014. She now has 180k rough miles on her. Been a real piece of garbage for me. List of things I've had to fix or replace on that truck are as follows:
• all 4 rotors at 150k miles
My next truck won't be a tundra due to the fact I can't get a crew and 6.5ft bed. It'll likely be an f150 xlt ecoboost.
Bout time you join the Ford family.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 05, 2021, 12:02:29 PM
ha! I had two fords prior to the tundra. Both 7.3's. Great trucks. Id be getting another tundra but like I said, gotta have the crew cab and a 6.5ft bed and they don't offer it. Their crew max is so over the top huge. Chop a foot out of that cab and put it into a longer bed for God's sakes.I bought a used 2007 Toyota tundra with 38k miles on it in 2014. She now has 180k rough miles on her. Been a real piece of garbage for me. List of things I've had to fix or replace on that truck are as follows:
• all 4 rotors at 150k miles
My next truck won't be a tundra due to the fact I can't get a crew and 6.5ft bed. It'll likely be an f150 xlt ecoboost.
Bout time you join the Ford family.
Post by: thinkingman on August 05, 2021, 12:04:49 PM
I bought a used 2007 Toyota tundra with 38k miles on it in 2014. She now has 180k rough miles on her. Been a real piece of garbage for me. List of things I've had to fix or replace on that truck are as follows:
• all 4 rotors at 150k miles
My next truck won't be a tundra due to the fact I can't get a crew and 6.5ft bed. It'll likely be an f150 xlt ecoboost.
Good for you.
It's all how you use it.
My 2006 Tacoma was completely outclassed by basic hunting and fishing needs.
Needed massive upgrades to simply be competent.
Based on the videos I posted, I would not want to drive a Tundra on the washboard or basalt roads I use for hunting and fishing, especially after 100k miles on it.
BTW, I have a 6.5' F150 SC.
Love the thing other than parking is a pain.
Full disclosure- I have added some modest suspension and 33" Falken Wildpeak tires.
I do LOTS of research before I add any mods.
You're welcome to take a look at it.
PM me if you're curious.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 05, 2021, 12:18:41 PM
I dont know if you've noticed yet thinkingman but nobody cares what you think of toyota. You are sooooo over the top you've completely lost any credibility on the subject of vehicles. Tone it down a bit and somebody down the road may take you seriously on here. And I'm far from a Toyota leg humper. Ive owned a dozen trucks over the years and only one has been a Toyota. Its also been the only trouble free vehicle I've ever owned soooo :dunno:
Post by: thinkingman on August 05, 2021, 02:34:06 PM
All how you use it? You implying mine is a freeway queen?Sorry, Karl.
I dont know if you've noticed yet thinkingman but nobody cares what you think of toyota. You are sooooo over the top you've completely lost any credibility on the subject of vehicles. Tone it down a bit and somebody down the road may take you seriously on here. And I'm far from a Toyota leg humper. Ive owned a dozen trucks over the years and only one has been a Toyota. Its also been the only trouble free vehicle I've ever owned soooo :dunno:
You were not my intended target.
I hope the Toyota Leg Humpers don't summarily dismiss the information I post.
That would be like liberals voting Biden no matter what the facts are.
Post by: Angry Perch on August 05, 2021, 03:35:05 PM
All how you use it? You implying mine is a freeway queen?Sorry, Karl.
I dont know if you've noticed yet thinkingman but nobody cares what you think of toyota. You are sooooo over the top you've completely lost any credibility on the subject of vehicles. Tone it down a bit and somebody down the road may take you seriously on here. And I'm far from a Toyota leg humper. Ive owned a dozen trucks over the years and only one has been a Toyota. Its also been the only trouble free vehicle I've ever owned soooo :dunno:
You were not my intended target.
I hope the Toyota Leg Humpers don't summarily dismiss the information I post.
That would be like liberals voting Biden no matter what the facts are.
You've done a pretty good job of ensuring that.
This thread is making me think I should sell my 2012 F150 with 110k miles on it, ride my bike for the next 6 months, and buy a new truck!
Post by: jackelope on August 05, 2021, 03:42:45 PM
ha! I had two fords prior to the tundra. Both 7.3's. Great trucks. Id be getting another tundra but like I said, gotta have the crew cab and a 6.5ft bed and they don't offer it. Their crew max is so over the top huge. Chop a foot out of that cab and put it into a longer bed for God's sakes.I bought a used 2007 Toyota tundra with 38k miles on it in 2014. She now has 180k rough miles on her. Been a real piece of garbage for me. List of things I've had to fix or replace on that truck are as follows:
• all 4 rotors at 150k miles
My next truck won't be a tundra due to the fact I can't get a crew and 6.5ft bed. It'll likely be an f150 xlt ecoboost.
Bout time you join the Ford family.
You shoot a rifle with a muzzle brake and you've owned 2 7.3's. It's a miracle you still have your hearing.
Post by: thinkingman on August 06, 2021, 09:45:41 AM
:chuckle:ha! I had two fords prior to the tundra. Both 7.3's. Great trucks. Id be getting another tundra but like I said, gotta have the crew cab and a 6.5ft bed and they don't offer it. Their crew max is so over the top huge. Chop a foot out of that cab and put it into a longer bed for God's sakes.I bought a used 2007 Toyota tundra with 38k miles on it in 2014. She now has 180k rough miles on her. Been a real piece of garbage for me. List of things I've had to fix or replace on that truck are as follows:
• all 4 rotors at 150k miles
My next truck won't be a tundra due to the fact I can't get a crew and 6.5ft bed. It'll likely be an f150 xlt ecoboost.
Bout time you join the Ford family.
You shoot a rifle with a muzzle brake and you've owned 2 7.3's. It's a miracle you still have your hearing.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 06, 2021, 10:19:58 AM
..ha! I had two fords prior to the tundra. Both 7.3's. Great trucks. Id be getting another tundra but like I said, gotta have the crew cab and a 6.5ft bed and they don't offer it. Their crew max is so over the top huge. Chop a foot out of that cab and put it into a longer bed for God's sakes.I bought a used 2007 Toyota tundra with 38k miles on it in 2014. She now has 180k rough miles on her. Been a real piece of garbage for me. List of things I've had to fix or replace on that truck are as follows:
• all 4 rotors at 150k miles
My next truck won't be a tundra due to the fact I can't get a crew and 6.5ft bed. It'll likely be an f150 xlt ecoboost.
Bout time you join the Ford family.
You shoot a rifle with a muzzle brake and you've owned 2 7.3's. It's a miracle you still have your hearing.