Post by: Ray on April 17, 2007, 06:47:32 PM
I just picked up another scope and had thought about picking up the Varmint reticle. For monetary reasons I decided against it and just went with the plane jane duplex.
Do any of you prefer any of these in some situations and or get a lot of use from some of them?
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Post by: PolarBear on April 17, 2007, 08:13:35 PM
Post by: Fletch on April 18, 2007, 02:11:28 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on April 18, 2007, 02:46:49 PM
Post by: PolarBear on April 18, 2007, 03:19:52 PM
Post by: pacyew on April 18, 2007, 09:52:32 PM
For tiny varmints or prairie dogs way out on the horizon, I find the fine duplex or the Varmint recticle to be the favorite. You've usually got good light and other than afternoon heat waves, optimum sighting conditions. You need to take the finest "bead" you can and I find that fine duplex helps. Add the windage and range references of the Varmint recticle and you're all set.
For big game, dim light and fast decisions in the field, the heavy duplex is the ticket!
Post by: littletoes on May 28, 2007, 09:16:54 AM
I like MillDots, or the newer Leupold TMR Reticle.
An illuminated version would be superb in low-light conditions. I don't own one of these, but have used them from friends rifles.
For hunting big-game, either of those would work great, and I've had success out to 600 yards.
If you practice, and know your come-ups, they work beyond great.
Like pacyew said above, for tiny varmints or small targets at extended rages I too like the fine duplex reticle.
Picked up a Boone & Crocket for the Wife, but as of yet I haven't had any time to figure come-ups yet. We shall see.
Post by: Ridgerunner on July 07, 2007, 12:43:44 PM
Post by: bcrawford on July 25, 2007, 07:35:48 AM
Post by: GoldTip on July 25, 2007, 07:50:59 AM
Post by: littletoes on July 28, 2007, 09:55:35 AM
I have the VX-III in 3.5-10 with a B&C reticle on it and used it on 3 different animals last year, using the correct cross bar for the range and it worked perfectly, one shot kills on all from 325-430 yards. I love that scope and cross hair combo.
SWEET!
I like the B&C too. Feel its kinda a modified Mill-Dot, or was pulled from that idea, mills just take it a bit further, and are there for windage too.
Post by: GoldTip on July 31, 2007, 08:38:51 AM
Post by: littletoes on July 31, 2007, 09:48:46 PM
When you get two or more guys together, each gets 10, and you race to see who gets done first....you get to laughing so hard when you make the call....its just great! Got to try it sometime!
Post by: Intruder on October 12, 2007, 09:03:52 AM
Post by: littletoes on October 20, 2007, 08:54:02 PM
For example, my Son and Wife both have identical .243's, shooting identical bullets, but one has the Boone & Crocket, while the other has the heavy duples reticle. Both the lower crosshair on the B&C and where the lighter reticle to heavy reticle meet ARE the same firing point at 300 yards.
I would say that any shooter should be able to use both examples fairly easily. All it takes is a bit of shooting, and load/field work.
Post by: Intruder on October 22, 2007, 03:31:52 PM
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I think it may just depend on the shooter
You're absolutely correct. A guy or gal should shoot what they have confidence in. My point wasn't intended to present a right or wrong way of doing things but more to illustrate that the manufactures out there are creating a market for their products by trying to convince people that they are some how at a disadvantage by not using said products.... or that they are at an advantage by using their product.
OK, I may be :beatdeadhorse: but here's another example....
Take a .270 w/ a 130 grn. It has a +/- 3" point blank range of around 280-300 depending on the actual bullet and actual load. So for all practical purposes (big game hunting) you really need no kind of compensation in sighting on an animal to 300 yards. So right off the bat the 200 and 300 yard sight points are superfluous. The 400 may be useful but much past that you're shooting beyond the cartridge's capacity to perform adequately. I know different companies build different capabilities in their compensation mechanism. Also, I can see if a person was really into varmint shooting where a mildot type setup would be practical. But I just think that for the most part these scopes are an example of marketing efforts that try to convince people they need something that in reality isn't all that beneficial to the hunter.
Again.... no disrespect to anyone who owns one of these scopes. I have friends that shoot them and they seem to work just fine for em.
Post by: littletoes on October 22, 2007, 08:41:21 PM
Butttt....there are those that can take advantage of those tiney little marks... :D
I think possibly a rethink may be in order to the thought process that beyond 300 to 400 yards is beyond a calibers capacity, but for all purposes, I would say as far as the general public is concerned, you are very right.
So many think that because they WANT to shoot far, and they have read a book, or played a video game (Lord help us), they can or even should.
Most absolutely should NOT.
The theater of Long Range should only be practiced by those that PRACTICE at said ranges. What we seem to forget, there are many many very capable.
Ever hear of a little sport called "Highpower"? Iron sight to 1000 yards, and thousands of rounds fired yearly. That indeed says enough, I should think. So as I have always said, limitations are not uniform across the board, nor are Horizons.
Good Luck! ;) Good Shootin.
Post by: Dudeluv on December 08, 2007, 08:51:07 PM
I have a couple VXIII 6.5x20x40's
I just bought a VXII 6X18X40 tonight for my new 204
but Sportsmans warehouse gave me the high rings instead of the medium so I have to go back and exchange them
Post by: scoyoc5 on December 23, 2007, 11:10:40 PM
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Post by: T-ROY on January 02, 2008, 08:56:24 AM
Post by: T-ROY on January 02, 2008, 09:12:53 AM
Intruder, ya know, I think it may just depend on the shooter.
For example, my Son and Wife both have identical .243's, shooting identical bullets, but one has the Boone & Crocket, while the other has the heavy duples reticle. Both the lower crosshair on the B&C and where the lighter reticle to heavy reticle meet ARE the same firing point at 300 yards.
I would say that any shooter should be able to use both examples fairly easily. All it takes is a bit of shooting, and load/field work.
so what are you looking at for a zero point of impact in yards using the junction of the duplex. is it close to 500??? it must matter what power the scope is on also,
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 30, 2010, 08:23:41 AM
Post by: addicted on December 31, 2010, 04:44:59 PM
3 fat posts that come together in a fine crosshair.
I liked the nikon BDC as it has it's place. low light is not it's place though. thin crosshairs dissapear.
Post by: high country on January 03, 2011, 12:15:21 PM
Post by: PolarBear on January 03, 2011, 12:23:22 PM
Post by: addicted on January 03, 2011, 12:31:15 PM
Hell, a lot of hunters feel that 6" groups at 200 yards wll still get them in the ball park at 400-500 yards, forget about a cross wind. :rolleyes:
paper plate at 50 yards ;) .......
last time i said that some guy thought i was serious. :chuckle:
Post by: Ratdog68 on January 04, 2011, 07:39:45 PM
Hell, a lot of hunters feel that 6" groups at 200 yards wll still get them in the ball park at 400-500 yards, forget about a cross wind. :rolleyes:paper plate at 50 yards ;) .......
I had a Savage 24V once (in .223) that couldn't group that at 25 yds. !!! :bash: That thing was a turd ! But, that was also before I knew about checking the crown... so, I cashed it in (without losing any money on it) and bought me a .22-250 :IBCOOL:
Post by: Jamieb on January 04, 2011, 08:37:50 PM
When I was trying diffrent scopes, I bought and used a bunch of diffrent reticles, I could get by just fine with almost any of them but I'm back to the standard duplex in most of the scopes I own. I do have a couple of .224's that wear scopes with a fine duplex but the rifles are built for ground squirl shooting and one scope with a heavy duplex(4.5-14) that I like but everything else wears a leupold with a standard duplex.
Post by: 2506 on January 06, 2011, 06:02:15 PM
Post by: tlbradford on January 06, 2011, 10:58:00 PM