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Title: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: bbarnes on April 30, 2009, 05:41:15 PM
This was emailed to me and I thought I would share. Let the Mt. Saint Helens Advisory Commitee know your feelings before it is too late.  :yike: The NPCA is purshing hard in Washington DC to convert this into a national park. When you look at the maps attached below you will realize how our hunting opportunities will be reduced.

Axel Swanson         swansona@co.cowlitz.wa.us

Jim Adams             jima@nwinterp.org

Jim and Debbie Waters info@carsonridgebnb.com

Jim Sedell               jimsedell@yahoo.com

Lee Grose               bocc@co.lewis.wa.us

Maree Lerchen         maree@windermere.com

Sherie Weisser        dsweisser@gmail.com

Mark Plotkin            mark@visitmtsthelens.com

Mark Smith              ecoparkman@mac.com

Mary Kay Nelson     Info@VisitRainier.com

Nancy Parkes          n.parkes@comcast.net

Paul Pearce            pearce@co.skamania.wa.us

Casey Roeder         casey@skamania.org

Debbie Slack          slack@co.skamania.wa.us


Also, you should send your feedback to Sean Smith of the National Parks Conservation Association and tell him why this area should remain the same. THESE PEOPLE ARE NO FRIENDS TO OUR RECREATION!!!! :bdid:

Sean Smith, M.S.

Director, NW Region

National Parks Conservation Association

Protecting Our National Parks for Future Generations

206.903.1444 x21

206.903.1448 fax

206-818-4041

ssmith@npca.org

313-A First Ave., South

Seattle, WA  98104


In addition, you should contact Congressman Brian Baird.




Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: saudog on May 04, 2009, 07:42:00 PM
Hey there,

You knew this wouldn't be done and over with.  What's with the "preserve" verbage?  Would they allow hunting in that area?

Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: KillzElk on May 05, 2009, 11:50:50 AM
Thank you so much for the info BB this might make it simple for all to view..
Why is this 2008 have they all-ready made there mind up last year?

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Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: bbarnes on May 05, 2009, 05:08:08 PM
After going to all of the meetings i can guarantee,there will be no hunting, horse back riding, mountain bike riding or snow mobiling.This group wont be happy untill everything is looked up, and its hands off.B Barnes KEEPING PULIC LANDS PUBLIC :mgun2: :tree1:
Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: JoeVon on May 05, 2009, 07:13:57 PM
Bruce, what is the "Mt. St. Helens Preserve" specified as?  What is its planned use ?  Will it be huntable?
Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: Dean44 on May 05, 2009, 07:51:43 PM
What is the deal with Map E? It is dated a year later than the others- April 2009, and shows even a lot of private land near Swift that would be part of the Park, along with a lot more public land. It is the most confiscatory option of them all. Not only are they trying to take our public hunting grounds but now they are going to confiscate private property? It just shows how emboldened they are now.
Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: bbarnes on May 05, 2009, 09:42:53 PM
The park service would not be specific and my advice to all sportsman is send all of your state reps and everyone on the advisory board a letter or email.Say NO
NATIONAL PARK at MT SAINT HELENS and keep our public lands public in a nice way.
We need to flood the advisory board and congressman and senators with emails and letters, this is the only way they will listen.There was a bill signed in march by congressman Baird called the HISTORIC PUBLIC LANDS BILL,and they received billions of dollars for historic lands to be purchased.Well my way of thinking is the mt and the area around it like, marble mt, goat marsh and the high lakes are historic lands and there for sale.We need to encourage the reps to buy this land, before it turns into subdivisions.B Barnes keeping public lands public.
Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: Kain on May 29, 2009, 01:11:47 PM
Did I miss something?  WDFW GoHunt shows the area around Mount St. Helens being national park.

http://fortress.wa.gov/dfw/gispublic/apps/gohunt/default.htm?VIEW=Deer/Elk&BOX=1154812.480187849:231453.6139262148:1416842.782390197:415177.26091470895

Is this huntable?
Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: Bob on May 29, 2009, 01:14:13 PM
the area that lays within the monument area is (national park)
Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: bobcat on May 29, 2009, 01:17:10 PM
It's not a national park... it's a national monument.
Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: Kain on May 29, 2009, 01:18:29 PM
I guess Im confused then.  The map legend says it is Federal-Park service.  It looks a lot like those maps posted above.  Can we hunt in that area or not?  Specifically that arm that drops into the Lewis River unit.
Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: bobcat on May 29, 2009, 01:38:50 PM
Yes, national monuments you can hunt.

The only area down there you can't hunt is the Loo-wit GMU.
Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: Kain on May 29, 2009, 02:28:03 PM
Thanks Bobcat.  I was pretty sure that was the case but after seeing the dark green on the map I thought they might have made it a national park after all.  I am easily confused.  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: FrankDown on June 04, 2009, 05:21:24 PM
From readingthe letter and lookign at the maps they dont seem to know what direction it may take.  I dont see it set in stone as a national monument.  The maps show a park.  Either way it seems that they dont know or are being subversive about letting anyone know waht their full intent might be.

Whats wrong with the way it is now?
Title: Re: Mt Saint Helens.....This could be whats in store.
Post by: bobcat on June 04, 2009, 06:50:55 PM
They think they can get more money if it's a National Park rather than a National Monument.
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