Post by: JJB11B on September 14, 2021, 01:49:36 PM
Post by: Mtnwalker on September 14, 2021, 01:52:13 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on September 14, 2021, 01:56:33 PM
I should have known when he asked me to push it out (by hand) out of the hangar. The damn thing doesn't weigh much more than a pack of gum. For god's sakes, the gas tank is in the wings.
A moth would take you down. A moth!! If you hit a swallow, it's MAYDAY!
Never F-ING Again.
Carry on.
Post by: Special T on September 14, 2021, 02:02:59 PM
I am not a pilot but have family members that are. If i were so inclined i would likely get my license first while exploring what kind of plane to get. Liability is huge and if your just flying your family for fun a DYI plane might be the right way to go.
Trenrs bush take off and landing videos are pretty damned cool also
Post by: whacker1 on September 14, 2021, 02:06:46 PM
i too am tagging along.
Post by: KFhunter on September 14, 2021, 02:07:13 PM
Buy your 182, get help buying it.
Hire a cfi with a ton of 182 hours from local area, ask around clubs and at airport
I'd avoid structured schools
Post by: Rob on September 14, 2021, 04:28:29 PM
So much fun and I miss it.
I can say without a doubt it is the most dangerous thing I have ever done. And I have been a very active mountain climber, rock climber, ice climber, caver, cave diver, wreck diver, tech diver, ice diver, motorcycle rider, dangerous game hunter, and many other things I have probably forgotten.
I lost two flight instructors (one orhpaned her kids when she and her husband were killed in Mesa. The other was single but the best pilot I had ever flown with), my dads rental plane was totaled, and then the replacement crashed too. I had an engine quit at the end of a Minnesota to New Mexico cross country and a real close call in another plane not too long after that. Another friend totaled his float plane and sank it during a landing
Not trying to talk you out of it-it really is amazing. But go in eyes wide open to the risks. If things go wrong while flying, you cant pull over to the shoulder and sort it out! And there is Zero room for bravado- there are old pilots and bold pilots but no old bold pilots!
Post by: Taco280AI on September 14, 2021, 05:49:53 PM
Flying is fun and safe with the right planning, preparation and mindset of maturity, judgment and decision making. Always stay ahead of your plane. Always be thinking what's next... what's next... what's next. Always be thinking what if...
I went out to Lihue in Jan of 2020 and took a helicopter tour ride around the island. Beautiful! Even though I wasn't flying every time we crossed a ridge the helicopter pilot in me kept asking myself okay if we lost the engine (SE turbine) now we could autorotate down to there. Cross another ridge... we could make it down to there. Cross another... we could uh... hmmm... uh we'd be f'd.
Always think one or three steps ahead. Always think what if. Don't do anything stupid. Don't show off. Always plan ahead and use your maturity and good decision making to never put yourself in a bad position. Don't be afraid to turn around or end your flight early. Most accidents are a series of events leading up to the crash site, but sometimes all it takes is one bad call.
182s are good planes, a bit bigger, heavier, smoother and more comfortable than 172s. Also more powerful and faster. I like them a lot. Ideally start off on something smaller and work up to it. Shop around for a good school and instructor. How's their maintenance and safety record? Since I was in Colorado Springs at the time I got my fixed wing ratings at an Air Force aero club. Some of the instructors were pure civilian, others retired Air Force, and one I flew with was an F16 Thunderbird pilot, think he's in the Guard flying F15s now. In the year and a half, or so, that I was looking at and training there they didn't have a single accident or engine failure, and their planes flew a lot! They were on top of their maintenance all the time.
Take training seriously and study. A lot. Learn aeromedical factors and visual illusions. Don't over plan and over prepare to the point of it not being fun each time. Do your work, but know when to just say alright, let's go fly. And have fun!
Post by: jeffro on September 14, 2021, 06:43:14 PM
I am capable of flying just about anything, just not licensed or rich enough to afford the hobby
The 2 who built kit planes are both no longer around…
One belly flopped in Idaho the other got wind sheered into the side of Mt Rainer
Stick to well built, proven airframes
Im partial to the Piper Cub, solid and reliable.
Post by: Machias on December 08, 2021, 01:39:34 PM
Post by: EmeraldBullet on December 08, 2021, 01:55:47 PM
Post by: C-Money on December 09, 2021, 06:43:10 AM
My brother flew ERJ145 for Express Jet/United before moving to a charter jet company. With United, he would wake up in Quebec City and -30 and be in Mexico on a beach at the end of the route that day. Now its pretty rare that he is out for more than a night or two. Good job being a pilot for sure, you sure see the country.
Getting a pilot's license is a great thing, very rewarding.
Post by: HUNTIN4SIX on December 09, 2021, 06:59:13 AM
Post by: jackson7 on December 09, 2021, 08:40:09 AM
An old time instructor back when gave me some good advice as i was on my cross country trip [350 miles].
I called in to flight school after 1st leg and told him thunderstorms were rolling through.
He replied , '"remember, you would rather be on ground wishing you were up there, than up there wishing you were on the ground." Good luck.
Post by: kellama2001 on December 09, 2021, 10:06:27 AM
My 17 year old is working on his license. About 30 hrs so far. Solo-ing and cross country. More time in a plane than car. Nerve racking seeing him leave the house in his car then flying over the house an hour later. Proud of him, he pays for it from years of selling 4H steers. :chuckle:
That is really cool! Sounds like a great kid :tup:
I got my private pilot's license years ago, it was a ton of fun but not a hobby I could afford to keep doing. I really miss it. I agree with @jackson7 to rent for awhile until you find the plane you really want. If I ever get back in to flying I want to go for my chopper license. No need for a runway! Good luck with your adventure, lots of good advice here...
Post by: Machias on December 09, 2021, 10:47:08 AM
Post by: kselkhunter on December 09, 2021, 11:05:05 AM
It is pretty cool though as my buddy flies into the nearest mountain air strips where we are hunting and I drive and pick him up. Sometimes he takes me up for scouting trips for elk before the season starts so we can get a general idea. I've taken the controls many times once up in the air. Fun times. He flies quite a bit for fun.
If it's just a plane for enjoyment and not trying to haul a moose out, the light sport aircraft are pretty cool and are likely what I'd buy. They sip gas, and many that run the Rotax engines can run on either avgas or ethanol-free automotive gas (ie boat gas). They just have the downside of a specific weight limit to be classified as an LSA. They have lighter pilot restrictions too (no medical, etc.). But I'd still get a regular pilots license so I could at least rent a larger aircraft sometime if I needed it.
My wife took her pilots lessons in a Cirrus SR20 back when we lived in Boise (there is a great flight school there). Man those things are fast, and more difficult to learn on especially take off and landing. I went up a few times with her and the instructor, very cool plane. I'd suggest a regular old Cessna to learn on.
Post by: Taco280AI on December 09, 2021, 06:45:12 PM
Very cool Taco280AI, hope you get the A320. I like the leg room configuration of the A320. United's 737 configuration is awful, my femurs do not fit in economy seats.
I did get the Bus and am flying again. LAX to Chicago then Phoenix tomorrow. Then a 30 hour Lihue overnight the next day in a 321NEO, before going back to LA. Nice flying plane, comfortable and quiet. Had a 737 jumpseater with us who commented how quiet it was in comparison, and roomy up front. I like it so far :tup:
Post by: jackson7 on December 09, 2021, 07:55:33 PM
Post by: C-Money on December 13, 2021, 06:41:08 AM
Very cool Taco280AI, hope you get the A320. I like the leg room configuration of the A320. United's 737 configuration is awful, my femurs do not fit in economy seats.
I did get the Bus and am flying again. LAX to Chicago then Phoenix tomorrow. Then a 30 hour Lihue overnight the next day in a 321NEO, before going back to LA. Nice flying plane, comfortable and quiet. Had a 737 jumpseater with us who commented how quiet it was in comparison, and roomy up front. I like it so far :tup:
Thats great to hear!! Glad you are flying, what a great job to have. The A321 is really nice! Agree, the Airbus is very quiet. I am a American made guy through & through, and should look forward to riding in a Boeing, but Airbus really makes some nice airplanes that are very comfortable. I'd even ride anywhere on a CRJ-200 before I ever wanna get on a United 737 again!!
Post by: Taco280AI on December 13, 2021, 07:31:23 AM
Very cool Taco280AI, hope you get the A320. I like the leg room configuration of the A320. United's 737 configuration is awful, my femurs do not fit in economy seats.
I did get the Bus and am flying again. LAX to Chicago then Phoenix tomorrow. Then a 30 hour Lihue overnight the next day in a 321NEO, before going back to LA. Nice flying plane, comfortable and quiet. Had a 737 jumpseater with us who commented how quiet it was in comparison, and roomy up front. I like it so far :tup:
I'd even ride anywhere on a CRJ-200 before I ever wanna get on a United 737 again!!
Let's not get carried away now :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on December 13, 2021, 07:42:31 AM
Post by: Born2late on December 13, 2021, 09:45:22 PM
grew up in the aviation industry building kit planes for customers.
Have built a bunch of glasairs 1,2s and 3. Also have built glastars ,fiberglass floats for 185s and 206s, built composite propellers also.
If i was going to get a plane of my own it would be a sportsman if a kit plane ,quality kit and very forgiving to fly plus you can trailer it home so you don't have to have a hanger to keep it in
.For a certified plane i'd get a birddog because they are just awesome to fly and cool history behind them. look on you tube their is video of a guy with his whole family stuffed in one landing it on a carrier after fleeing vietnam.
Post by: Machias on December 14, 2021, 08:58:35 AM
Post by: Born2late on December 14, 2021, 09:45:37 PM
Fun to build and really fun and easy to fly.
You can put the heavy gear on it and run the big tundra tires or run it on floats or have the nose wheel on it for the 3rd option of gear set ups.
My Good friend has one that is probably one of the most heavily modified made and the thing is awesome.
What is cool is you can do all your own work building it and can set the plane up to suit what you will want to use it for.
Post by: Naches Sportsman on December 14, 2021, 10:14:28 PM
Since the people in my career field are getting a 50% pay increase, it is in the back of my mind to look at my commercial fixed wing and rotor licenses some point and saving my body from being beat up for the next 20 years.
I’m working in the Aviation sector this winter to gain experience and can say that there is a pilot shortage.
Post by: LongBomb on December 14, 2021, 10:35:20 PM
Still looking at getting mine before 35. Had a conversation with “pd” (Daniel) on here in October about par 61 schools and his business. If any of you are thinking about getting yours and are in the Seattle area, get in touch with him.
Since the people in my career field are getting a 50% pay increase, it is in the back of my mind to look at my commercial fixed wing and rotor licenses some point and saving my body from being beat up for the next 20 years.
I’m working in the Aviation sector this winter to gain experience and can say that there is a pilot shortage.
Not to derail but 50% wage increase?.....what career are you in??
Post by: KFhunter on December 14, 2021, 10:47:20 PM
but they ain't buying airplanes
Post by: Naches Sportsman on December 14, 2021, 10:54:16 PM
Still looking at getting mine before 35. Had a conversation with “pd” (Daniel) on here in October about par 61 schools and his business. If any of you are thinking about getting yours and are in the Seattle area, get in touch with him.
Since the people in my career field are getting a 50% pay increase, it is in the back of my mind to look at my commercial fixed wing and rotor licenses some point and saving my body from being beat up for the next 20 years.
I’m working in the Aviation sector this winter to gain experience and can say that there is a pilot shortage.
Not to derail but 50% wage increase?.....what career are you in??
USFS/federal wildland fire. Near a 50% increase that was included in the infrastructure bill that was passed. still not much but at least I won’t be making the same as a burger flipper for a few years.
Post by: luvmystang67 on December 14, 2021, 11:02:33 PM
I do think it could be fun to fly around in circles in a powered parachute... I might try to get training in that one of these days.
I learned in a C140 at Arlington. Fun learning plane, great guy there, Jerry Painter at Wild Blue Aviation
Post by: LongBomb on December 14, 2021, 11:03:38 PM
GotchaStill looking at getting mine before 35. Had a conversation with “pd” (Daniel) on here in October about par 61 schools and his business. If any of you are thinking about getting yours and are in the Seattle area, get in touch with him.
Since the people in my career field are getting a 50% pay increase, it is in the back of my mind to look at my commercial fixed wing and rotor licenses some point and saving my body from being beat up for the next 20 years.
I’m working in the Aviation sector this winter to gain experience and can say that there is a pilot shortage.
Not to derail but 50% wage increase?.....what career are you in??
USFS/federal wildland fire. Near a 50% increase that was included in the infrastructure bill that was passed. still not much but at least I won’t be making the same as a burger flipper for a few years.
Post by: Netminder01 on March 11, 2022, 09:26:14 AM
Flying hunters and anglers into remote camps is my 'made it" goal.
Good thread to remind me what I'm working for...
Post by: GWP on March 11, 2022, 11:57:09 AM
Father was a WWII pilot (and before) and LOVED aviation. He was meticulous and an excellent pilot.
The stats ‘used’ to be the average pilot kept current for 2 1/2 years before not flying any more after getting their license.
Maintenance is critical. Once in the air, awareness is critical. Always head on a swivel thinking about the ‘what if’.
In all my years I only had a single ‘incident’ flying, and it was not all that bad.
I am VERY careful whom I fly with, and have passed on flying with some.
You can not (for long) half azz, be lazy about ANY of it, or take chances.
Had a Bud that flew from Western Wa to Western Montana about every two weeks for years in a 185. Never an issue.
Post by: ucwarden on March 11, 2022, 02:05:27 PM
I personally would suggest getting your private license or at least get 20+ hours before buying a plane, but of-course then you have to pay the rental fees. As you get more flying time, your preferences will likely change, plus there is always a chance you find flying is just not your thing.
I lost my medical quite a while back, so I don't fly anymore, but I can help in any way, let me know.
Now one piece of advice- Never make the mistake of thinking you can fly around the west coast at will, without having to wait in line for commercial flights. Many VFR private pilots have paid the ultimate price for making the decision that "The weather is not that bad, and we can get around it, but I've gotta to get back for work tomorrow."
Enjoy! There's nothing like it.
Post by: Taco280AI on March 11, 2022, 02:32:28 PM
Post by: pd on March 11, 2022, 02:54:54 PM
I'm beginning to consider a Cessna 140 with a 110hp upgrade. Guy I know has numerous planes and this is an extra 140 of his. Haven't looked into it, seen it, just talked with him about it. Love the idea, but would have to be picky about when and where in the mountains I'd fly. Have a bit of research to do.
Prices are finally starting to come down, they have been nutz throughout Covid. 110-hp on a C-140, that would make for a zippy taildragger, and could be a lot of fun. Good luck!
Post by: KFhunter on March 11, 2022, 03:01:23 PM
My bro could teach me he's an instructor, my son could teach me he's a private pilot but hasn't reached CFI yet
For me, since I know people, would buy a plane to start out with rather than rent. There's a guy local that instructs for $45/hr and rents a C150 for $90/hr, but we're both a bit big to fit us in it.
I'd buy a C180, get a bunch of hours on it, trade or sell or modify to a bush kit
I really wanted to build a Bearhawk, but then I found out it's nearly impossible to get a check ride in them and being experimental you can't hire out with it, ever.
Post by: Skywagon_185 on March 11, 2022, 07:10:57 PM
Post by: GASoline71 on May 23, 2022, 11:20:25 AM
Gary
Post by: Macs B on May 24, 2022, 08:26:23 AM
Post by: pd on May 24, 2022, 11:14:51 AM
I learned to fly in 1972. PPL in about '74. Rented planes for a few years but found their restrictions not suitable to how I wanted to fly, no unpaved strips etc. At age 40 bought a C182 with a Robertson STOL kit. Great back country airplane. My first real cross country was to Wrangell AK. 3years later I bought a C185. Canada and Alaska was my favorite destinations. One summer, flew to AK 4 times. Flying gave me much pleasure by allowing me to go into the great wildernesses to the north. In '96 I bought into a very remote hunting camp in AK. Fly in access only. An outdoorsmans dream. Moose hunting was awesome. Had to quit in 2015 due to medical problems and costs. Accumulated around 3000 hours of back country flying without bending any aluminum. Probably the best thing I ever did.
I know dozens, if not hundreds, of guys who would give their first born child to do what you have done.
Name checks out as well.
Post by: pd on May 24, 2022, 11:21:40 AM
I'm a retired Army Rotary Wing Pilot, civilian multi engine instrument guy. We own a half share in a Cessna 337H turbo, sometimes referred to as a Mix Master, Sky Master, or O2. Don't fly near as much as I should, but we do travel a bit by air.
Push-pull. I have never actually seen one of those. Sure beats my 150. :chuckle: