Post by: huntnphool on December 10, 2021, 12:03:06 AM
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Post by: Bob33 on December 10, 2021, 06:50:02 AM
https://www.ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/im-not-buying-6mm-creedmoor
Post by: kselkhunter on December 10, 2021, 08:27:22 AM
Post by: huntnphool on December 10, 2021, 10:00:27 AM
Post by: buglebuster on December 10, 2021, 10:25:50 AM
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Post by: b23 on December 10, 2021, 11:54:50 AM
Post by: huntnphool on December 10, 2021, 01:37:57 PM
Post by: fly-by on December 10, 2021, 02:20:23 PM
I had a 6CM built a couple years ago on a SA Rem 700 using a 20in Proof CFW barrel. I haven't really shot it very much but it shoots very well and is a sweet little gun to shoot. I went with a 9tw because I knew the heaviest bullet I'd shoot would be Berger's 95gr Hunting VLD. So far all I've shot are Nosler 70gr BT's. I'm not sure a 7tw is needed unless you plan to shoot the 115's. Most of the 6CM I've seen typically have 8tw barrels but per Berger my 9tw will shoot the 105's fine just at about -2% BC.
Beautiful rife. What's the balance like with the short CF barrel and did you go 20" because you run a suppressor?
Post by: b23 on December 10, 2021, 03:48:29 PM
I had a 6CM built a couple years ago on a SA Rem 700 using a 20in Proof CFW barrel. I haven't really shot it very much but it shoots very well and is a sweet little gun to shoot. I went with a 9tw because I knew the heaviest bullet I'd shoot would be Berger's 95gr Hunting VLD. So far all I've shot are Nosler 70gr BT's. I'm not sure a 7tw is needed unless you plan to shoot the 115's. Most of the 6CM I've seen typically have 8tw barrels but per Berger my 9tw will shoot the 105's fine just at about -2% BC.
Beautiful rife. What's the balance like with the short CF barrel and did you go 20" because you run a suppressor?
Thank you, it did seem to turn out really well. As for balance, without a can, it's very neutrally balanced but screw a can on and like anything with a can it changes the balance point but certainly not to the point it's an issue.
I'm not implying you did but often people assume that 6CM in the pic is a lightweight build because it has a CFW barrel. The build specs on that particular rifle is trued SA Rem 700 w/spiral fluted bolt, McM Varmint model stock, Vortex HS-T 4-16x44, NF UL .885 ring, NF pic rail, 20in Proof CFW barrel, and standard Rem BDL bottom metal. All fairly standard stuff with a fairly lightish optic (20oz) and if I recall the stock was right around 2lbs maybe a couple ounces more and that gun as it sits in the picture with no can still weighs 9lbs 1.5oz which certainly isn't what anyone would consider a LW build. Because it's short, even with a can, it always feels lighter than it really is.
Post by: huntnphool on December 11, 2021, 11:42:15 PM
I had a 6CM built a couple years ago on a SA Rem 700 using a 20in Proof CFW barrel. I haven't really shot it very much but it shoots very well and is a sweet little gun to shoot. I went with a 9tw because I knew the heaviest bullet I'd shoot would be Berger's 95gr Hunting VLD. So far all I've shot are Nosler 70gr BT's. I'm not sure a 7tw is needed unless you plan to shoot the 115's. Most of the 6CM I've seen typically have 8tw barrels but per Berger my 9tw will shoot the 105's fine just at about -2% BC.
Beautiful rife. What's the balance like with the short CF barrel and did you go 20" because you run a suppressor?
Thank you, it did seem to turn out really well. As for balance, without a can, it's very neutrally balanced but screw a can on and like anything with a can it changes the balance point but certainly not to the point it's an issue.
I'm not implying you did but often people assume that 6CM in the pic is a lightweight build because it has a CFW barrel. The build specs on that particular rifle is trued SA Rem 700 w/spiral fluted bolt, McM Varmint model stock, Vortex HS-T 4-16x44, NF UL .885 ring, NF pic rail, 20in Proof CFW barrel, and standard Rem BDL bottom metal. All fairly standard stuff with a fairly lightish optic (20oz) and if I recall the stock was right around 2lbs maybe a couple ounces more and that gun as it sits in the picture with no can still weighs 9lbs 1.5oz which certainly isn't what anyone would consider a LW build. Because it's short, even with a can, it always feels lighter than it really is.
Great info :tup:
Post by: jjness11 on December 13, 2021, 08:12:34 PM
Post by: jasnt on December 14, 2021, 07:55:27 AM
Post by: buckfvr on December 14, 2021, 08:35:44 AM
Post by: jasnt on December 14, 2021, 09:09:42 AM
To say one is better than the other (6mm cm vs. .243 win), would be splitting hairs.yup
Really can’t say any cartridge is better than any other because it depends on the consumers needs and wants.
Post by: buckfvr on December 14, 2021, 10:51:15 AM
Yes I'm older and have owned a great many calibers from the 22 centerfires up to and including .338. Most of all, I miss my model 70 .270 with the laminated stock from the late 80's that Mike Palazzo accurized. Fine shooter I will always regret having parted with.
Post by: kselkhunter on December 14, 2021, 11:03:04 AM
Where the 6mm CM shines is in the longer heavier bullets 115gr VLD and 101gr Hammer Hunter, and both companies recommend a 1:7 twist rate on the barrel for those.
Post by: b23 on December 14, 2021, 12:18:37 PM
Seems to be plenty of factory rounds on the shelf, specs look good.
IMO, if you're shooting factory ammo and you want a .243/6mm the 6mm CM is going to be your best option. Hornady has done a really good job with making factory ammo for the 6 & 6.5 CM that shoots very well in most factory guns. They've done the same thing with the 6.5PRC as well.
Post by: b23 on December 14, 2021, 12:19:24 PM
Bingo! :yeah:To say one is better than the other (6mm cm vs. .243 win), would be splitting hairs.yup
Really can’t say any cartridge is better than any other because it depends on the consumers needs and wants.