Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 01, 2022, 07:43:55 AM
Post by: KFhunter on January 01, 2022, 07:57:18 AM
Worse is when its a rear track, the front went over, but the back didn't, then you back up and the front won't go over now either, so you're high centered on it.
Post by: Southpole on January 01, 2022, 08:08:59 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 01, 2022, 08:18:49 AM
Common problem is getting a track under a log that it went under instead of over it like you wanted :chuckle:
Worse is when its a rear track, the front went over, but the back didn't, then you back up and the front won't go over now either, so you're high centered on it.
Has this happened to you in snow?
Post by: Caseyd on January 01, 2022, 08:46:59 AM
We have a Polaris Ranger we just put the tracks on for the third year in a row. The only limitations is that they are wide so if you’re going to take it on some skinny trails that it fit through with the tires you’re probably not going to get through with the tracks. The other thing to keep in mind is you need to think ahead for sharp turns. It doesn’t turn on a dime. Other than that we love it. No matter how much snow or the quality of the snow it never sinks more than about 7 inches deep. It’ll go anywhere a snowmobile will.
SXS on tracks cannot go anywhere a snowmobile can. The pressure per square inch is about 4 times the amount of a sled. This is the first year that sxs owners can legally register their vehicle for snow travel, you must duel register as a snowmobile. With that said, many sxs have already been severally stuck and rescued by snowmobilers. The motto of never ride alone applies to sxs also and some of them would of never made it out alone.
Most are finding they don’t want to venture to far off the groomed trail.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on January 01, 2022, 09:02:32 AM
SxS with tracks = 1500-2800#
Plus snowmobile glides on skis at speed - think drive over water at speed.
But compared to a truck oh yea!
Post by: Southpole on January 01, 2022, 09:09:40 AM
That hasn’t been our experience. We’ve ventured up into 3 feet of snow, never had any issues. Fresh snow old snow no problems. We have talked to guys that have been snowmobiling for years and they see tracked Polaris’ up where they ride from time to time with no issues. And no you’re not going to race around like a snowmobile and fart around vertical like a snowmobile. It’s still a good idea not to travel alone regardless.We have a Polaris Ranger we just put the tracks on for the third year in a row. The only limitations is that they are wide so if you’re going to take it on some skinny trails that it fit through with the tires you’re probably not going to get through with the tracks. The other thing to keep in mind is you need to think ahead for sharp turns. It doesn’t turn on a dime. Other than that we love it. No matter how much snow or the quality of the snow it never sinks more than about 7 inches deep. It’ll go anywhere a snowmobile will.
SXS on tracks cannot go anywhere a snowmobile can. The pressure per square inch is about 4 times the amount of a sled. This is the first year that sxs owners can legally register their vehicle for snow travel, you must duel register as a snowmobile. With that said, many sxs have already been severally stuck and rescued by snowmobilers. The motto of never ride alone applies to sxs also and some of them would of never made it out alone.
Most are finding they don’t want to venture to far off the groomed trail.
Post by: bearpaw on January 01, 2022, 09:58:04 AM
I don't look at it as a replacement for a snowmobile, it's not. I view it as a UTV I can use all winter on most of the roads I would use it on during the summer, but at a much slower speed. They seem to go fine in 3 or 4 feet of snow, if it's powder it pushes through, if it's wet snow you sink half way, but there is a lot clearance on tracks, as long as it isn't too steep they seem to go pretty good.
Post by: Southpole on January 01, 2022, 10:05:50 AM
Post by: Norman89 on January 01, 2022, 10:20:51 AM
Post by: Southpole on January 01, 2022, 10:36:02 AM
No experience with a sxs, but a local guy I use to wheel with had a Suzuki samurai on mattracks, pretty much the same thing to me I have always called my samurai a adult sized street legal go cart. That guy would always be at the back of the pack to pull everyone out no matter who or what got stuck. He would race up the ditch in 5' of snow like it was nothing at all. No he didn't try to mountain climb like a sled, but it went wherever he pointed it. I'll be building one, that's for sureOkay, you need to get a picture of that thing, sounds bad ass.
Post by: Ridgeratt on January 01, 2022, 10:47:29 AM
https://kootenays.craigslist.org/snw/d/grasmere-1983-ford-ranger-on-tracks/7427146544.html
And a road trip.
Post by: Southpole on January 01, 2022, 10:54:35 AM
Heres a ford ranger.Oh nice :chuckle:
https://kootenays.craigslist.org/snw/d/grasmere-1983-ford-ranger-on-tracks/7427146544.html (https://kootenays.craigslist.org/snw/d/grasmere-1983-ford-ranger-on-tracks/7427146544.html)
And a road trip.
Post by: jackelope on January 01, 2022, 12:15:28 PM
This was out front of Bickford Ford a few weeks ago.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 01, 2022, 12:32:08 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220101/2b039283375639a8481dcbfdab89ae38.jpg)
This was out front of Bickford Ford a few weeks ago.
Was it for sale, or just a tease mobile?
Post by: kselkhunter on January 01, 2022, 01:03:46 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220101/2b039283375639a8481dcbfdab89ae38.jpg)
This was out front of Bickford Ford a few weeks ago.
Was it for sale, or just a tease mobile?
You can just buy the tracks and put them on your vehicle. http://www.americantracktruck.com/
Post by: jrebel on January 01, 2022, 01:17:33 PM
The guy at Mattracks says the SxS with tracks I want will take me anywhere I want to go.....period. He acknowledges they are not fast, but they turn SxS's in to little tanks.
Post by: Katmai Guy on January 01, 2022, 01:32:40 PM
Post by: KFhunter on January 01, 2022, 02:56:19 PM
Couldn't remember the website, Spokane
When I buy I'm driving down there, prolly going to be camso 4s or whatever gen they're on
Get In Touch
CONTACT US
866-243-8359
11617 E Trent Ave
Spokane, WA 99206
Post by: Buckhunter24 on January 01, 2022, 03:18:06 PM
Post by: Jingles on January 01, 2022, 04:15:24 PM
Camso ATV/UTV Track Systems
2401 W Behrend Dr Suite J-45
Phoenix, AZ 85027
800-462-0578
Post by: huntandjeep on January 01, 2022, 04:41:22 PM
Post by: Caseyd on January 01, 2022, 05:01:48 PM
One thing to think about is they are not legal on groomed snowmobile trails. Another thing to think about is on Ice they suck . A buddy has a set for his General and another has a set for a 4wheeler . Both say if there is any ice under the snow they have a hard time going and a harder time stopping on a hill .
Starting this year you can operate your sxs on groomed snowmobile trails as long as you dual register it.
https://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/trackedatv.html
Post by: huntandjeep on January 01, 2022, 05:14:43 PM
The way I read that is the front tires need Skis to operate on a groomed trail .One thing to think about is they are not legal on groomed snowmobile trails. Another thing to think about is on Ice they suck . A buddy has a set for his General and another has a set for a 4wheeler . Both say if there is any ice under the snow they have a hard time going and a harder time stopping on a hill .
Starting this year you can operate your sxs on groomed snowmobile trails as long as you dual register it.
https://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/trackedatv.html
Post by: Sr15 on January 01, 2022, 05:22:00 PM
Post by: KFhunter on January 01, 2022, 05:30:19 PM
Common problem is getting a track under a log that it went under instead of over it like you wanted :chuckle:
Worse is when its a rear track, the front went over, but the back didn't, then you back up and the front won't go over now either, so you're high centered on it.
Has this happened to you in snow?
I don't own a tracked atv/sxs I got my info from chatting with border patrol who uses them. I figure they'd know the in's and outs as they run around in my hunting areas.
They was offloading several of them, so I went over and chatted em up :chuckle:
The tracks skewering themselves under a log made a lot of since to me, and seemed it would suck trying to get a saw under there
Post by: Caseyd on January 01, 2022, 05:39:25 PM
The way I read that is the front tires need Skis to operate on a groomed trail .One thing to think about is they are not legal on groomed snowmobile trails. Another thing to think about is on Ice they suck . A buddy has a set for his General and another has a set for a 4wheeler . Both say if there is any ice under the snow they have a hard time going and a harder time stopping on a hill .
Starting this year you can operate your sxs on groomed snowmobile trails as long as you dual register it.
https://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/trackedatv.html
3rd bullet point is tracks or combination of tracks/ski.
Post by: huntandjeep on January 01, 2022, 07:18:28 PM
Yeah guess I missed that part :chuckle: . Anyway it will be a learning curve for everyone .The way I read that is the front tires need Skis to operate on a groomed trail .One thing to think about is they are not legal on groomed snowmobile trails. Another thing to think about is on Ice they suck . A buddy has a set for his General and another has a set for a 4wheeler . Both say if there is any ice under the snow they have a hard time going and a harder time stopping on a hill .
Starting this year you can operate your sxs on groomed snowmobile trails as long as you dual register it.
https://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/trackedatv.html
3rd bullet point is tracks or combination of tracks/ski.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 02, 2022, 08:58:20 AM
I was thinking they might be a better way of transportation in the winter hunting the roads for cats.
Post by: Southpole on January 02, 2022, 09:38:49 AM
Thanks everyone for the sage advice.I think a side by side would be perfect for that purpose. You can bring a lot of gear with you and if you have a heater like us it’s pretty luxurious.
I was thinking they might be a better way of transportation in the winter hunting the roads for cats.
Post by: Southpole on January 02, 2022, 12:19:58 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2022, 01:08:12 PM
Post by: idaho guy on January 02, 2022, 01:44:52 PM
Thanks everyone for the sage advice.
I was thinking they might be a better way of transportation in the winter hunting the roads for cats.
I have a Polaris rzr 900 with camos 4s tracks. I bought it specifically for lion hunting with hounds. It is 50 inches wide so I can get onto any 4 wheeler sized trail. I have been using for years and it is an absolute tank. I go anywhere I want so I am a little surprised at some of the comments. Yes I have gotten a track under a log but I carry a chainsaw so I have never been stuck that way. I think the lighter machine with four different tracks to displace the weight has allowed me to go on very deep sugary powder way easier than I could with my snowmobile. It’s licensed as a sled in Idaho so I can take any groomed trail. Combined with my chain saw it’s been almost unstoppable and far better than my sled for hound hunting. I have gone up the mountain so steep I was actually concerned about the the front flipping over. I don’t know why anyone can’t go anywhere they want with one. Heck I have gone places I didn’t want to be after arrival. The bigger side by sides I’m sure won’t go as well with tracks due to weight etc. smaller ones are go anywhere tanks I use just to get from point a to b. If I want to play I use the snowmobile
Post by: idaho guy on January 02, 2022, 01:48:05 PM
I think you'll find Camso has relocated to Arizona
Camso ATV/UTV Track Systems
2401 W Behrend Dr Suite J-45
Phoenix, AZ 85027
800-462-0578
Best place to get them is atvtracks in Spokane valley. They met me on a holiday when they were closed so I could buy a 12 dollar part. I think there prices are also the best at least that I could find,
Post by: Southpole on January 02, 2022, 02:10:23 PM
:yeah: That’s who we have dealt with. Very nice helpful people.I think you'll find Camso has relocated to Arizona
Camso ATV/UTV Track Systems
2401 W Behrend Dr Suite J-45
Phoenix, AZ 85027
800-462-0578
Best place to get them is atvtracks in Spokane valley. They met me on a holiday when they were closed so I could buy a 12 dollar part. I think there prices are also the best at least that I could find,
Post by: HillHound on January 02, 2022, 02:22:55 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 02, 2022, 02:24:49 PM
Thanks everyone for the sage advice.
I was thinking they might be a better way of transportation in the winter hunting the roads for cats.
I have a Polaris rzr 900 with camos 4s tracks. I bought it specifically for lion hunting with hounds. It is 50 inches wide so I can get onto any 4 wheeler sized trail. I have been using for years and it is an absolute tank. I go anywhere I want so I am a little surprised at some of the comments. Yes I have gotten a track under a log but I carry a chainsaw so I have never been stuck that way. I think the lighter machine with four different tracks to displace the weight has allowed me to go on very deep sugary powder way easier than I could with my snowmobile. It’s licensed as a sled in Idaho so I can take any groomed trail. Combined with my chain saw it’s been almost unstoppable and far better than my sled for hound hunting. I have gone up the mountain so steep I was actually concerned about the the front flipping over. I don’t know why anyone can’t go anywhere they want with one. Heck I have gone places I didn’t want to be after arrival. The bigger side by sides I’m sure won’t go as well with tracks due to weight etc. smaller ones are go anywhere tanks I use just to get from point a to b. If I want to play I use the snowmobile
You're not still 50" with those tracks though, correct?
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 02, 2022, 05:16:33 PM
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 02, 2022, 06:12:42 PM
Thanks everyone for the sage advice.
I was thinking they might be a better way of transportation in the winter hunting the roads for cats.
I have a Polaris rzr 900 with camos 4s tracks. I bought it specifically for lion hunting with hounds. It is 50 inches wide so I can get onto any 4 wheeler sized trail. I have been using for years and it is an absolute tank. I go anywhere I want so I am a little surprised at some of the comments. Yes I have gotten a track under a log but I carry a chainsaw so I have never been stuck that way. I think the lighter machine with four different tracks to displace the weight has allowed me to go on very deep sugary powder way easier than I could with my snowmobile. It’s licensed as a sled in Idaho so I can take any groomed trail. Combined with my chain saw it’s been almost unstoppable and far better than my sled for hound hunting. I have gone up the mountain so steep I was actually concerned about the the front flipping over. I don’t know why anyone can’t go anywhere they want with one. Heck I have gone places I didn’t want to be after arrival. The bigger side by sides I’m sure won’t go as well with tracks due to weight etc. smaller ones are go anywhere tanks I use just to get from point a to b. If I want to play I use the snowmobile
You're not still 50" with those tracks though, correct?
That’s a good point I’ve been thinking if I got a side by side to get the new pioneer 520 and I would like tracks
Post by: MtnMuley on January 02, 2022, 06:33:13 PM
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 02, 2022, 06:48:51 PM
Over the last 5 years, I've put a lot of miles on tracked Ranger XP 1000s. Both 4 seaters and 2 seaters. I would highly recommend the after market clutch kits if you plan on running tracks. I would not consider tracking up anything less than a 1000 either. They are by far not invincible in the snow and there is zero chance any of them will compete with a snowmobile as far as getting into places. They're a great tool for their purpose, but can work the machine hard. Breaking one down in remote areas is another concern unless you have access to a snowcat.Unless of course you have a Honda and I haven't heard any issues with the transmission woth tracks.
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Post by: idaho guy on January 02, 2022, 08:41:11 PM
Thanks everyone for the sage advice.
I was thinking they might be a better way of transportation in the winter hunting the roads for cats.
I have a Polaris rzr 900 with camos 4s tracks. I bought it specifically for lion hunting with hounds. It is 50 inches wide so I can get onto any 4 wheeler sized trail. I have been using for years and it is an absolute tank. I go anywhere I want so I am a little surprised at some of the comments. Yes I have gotten a track under a log but I carry a chainsaw so I have never been stuck that way. I think the lighter machine with four different tracks to displace the weight has allowed me to go on very deep sugary powder way easier than I could with my snowmobile. It’s licensed as a sled in Idaho so I can take any groomed trail. Combined with my chain saw it’s been almost unstoppable and far better than my sled for hound hunting. I have gone up the mountain so steep I was actually concerned about the the front flipping over. I don’t know why anyone can’t go anywhere they want with one. Heck I have gone places I didn’t want to be after arrival. The bigger side by sides I’m sure won’t go as well with tracks due to weight etc. smaller ones are go anywhere tanks I use just to get from point a to b. If I want to play I use the snowmobile
You're not still 50" with those tracks though, correct?
Correct I measured once can’t remember exactly but is a little over 50 for sure
Post by: MtnMuley on January 02, 2022, 08:43:00 PM
Over the last 5 years, I've put a lot of miles on tracked Ranger XP 1000s. Both 4 seaters and 2 seaters. I would highly recommend the after market clutch kits if you plan on running tracks. I would not consider tracking up anything less than a 1000 either. They are by far not invincible in the snow and there is zero chance any of them will compete with a snowmobile as far as getting into places. They're a great tool for their purpose, but can work the machine hard. Breaking one down in remote areas is another concern unless you have access to a snowcat.Unless of course you have a Honda and I haven't heard any issues with the transmission woth tracks.
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I haven't either, but their top end components enclosing a cab including doors, windows, seals, heaters, AC, navigation, and comfort aren't on par with the Rangers. And yes, I've ran the Pioneer 1000s that are loaded. That clutch kit basically eliminates a blown belt from what I've experienced. I'm a big Honda fan and dislike most everything Polaris except their 50"ers and Ranger XP 1000 Northstars.
Post by: MtnMuley on January 02, 2022, 08:46:16 PM
Thanks everyone for the sage advice.
I was thinking they might be a better way of transportation in the winter hunting the roads for cats.
I have a Polaris rzr 900 with camos 4s tracks. I bought it specifically for lion hunting with hounds. It is 50 inches wide so I can get onto any 4 wheeler sized trail. I have been using for years and it is an absolute tank. I go anywhere I want so I am a little surprised at some of the comments. Yes I have gotten a track under a log but I carry a chainsaw so I have never been stuck that way. I think the lighter machine with four different tracks to displace the weight has allowed me to go on very deep sugary powder way easier than I could with my snowmobile. It’s licensed as a sled in Idaho so I can take any groomed trail. Combined with my chain saw it’s been almost unstoppable and far better than my sled for hound hunting. I have gone up the mountain so steep I was actually concerned about the the front flipping over. I don’t know why anyone can’t go anywhere they want with one. Heck I have gone places I didn’t want to be after arrival. The bigger side by sides I’m sure won’t go as well with tracks due to weight etc. smaller ones are go anywhere tanks I use just to get from point a to b. If I want to play I use the snowmobile
You're not still 50" with those tracks though, correct?
Correct I measured once can’t remember exactly but is a little over 50 for sure
I'd love to be able to track a 50 for Idaho, but think I'm just gonna be stuck going to the tall paddle style tires with beadlocks.
Post by: idaho guy on January 02, 2022, 09:07:48 PM
Over the last 5 years, I've put a lot of miles on tracked Ranger XP 1000s. Both 4 seaters and 2 seaters. I would highly recommend the after market clutch kits if you plan on running tracks. I would not consider tracking up anything less than a 1000 either. They are by far not invincible in the snow and there is zero chance any of them will compete with a snowmobile as far as getting into places. They're a great tool for their purpose, but can work the machine hard. Breaking one down in remote areas is another concern unless you have access to a snowcat.
Not disagreeing with your post but That’s interesting I feel my raze which is 900 will go anywhere I could in my sled. I must not be a good snowmobile rider😂 I had one for 6 years used all winter and replaced one belt I just bought the same thing but 2020 model. On my second year with it they have been unstoppable for me and I go boondocking quite a bit but no side hilling etc. yes I have tipped twice . I had a Yamaha 800 can’t remember model 2 seater but bigger and heavier frame before the razor and it was more of a road trail machine and didn’t do well in deep snow. It couldn’t handle the tracks so I drug it out of the backcountry 3 times with snowmobiles. It sucks and I of course sold that. I am curious if the smaller 50” Utvs do a lot better with tracks? I feel kinda like I can go anywhere with mine :dunno:
Post by: MtnMuley on January 02, 2022, 09:37:36 PM
Post by: KFhunter on January 02, 2022, 09:37:59 PM
Post by: Ridgeratt on January 02, 2022, 09:48:55 PM
I bet it would compete with an old Phazer II, except for top speed, those things will do 90+ down hwy 395
How do you know this?
Post by: idaho guy on January 02, 2022, 09:57:18 PM
I bet it would compete with an old Phazer II, except for top speed, those things will do 90+ down hwy 395
How do you know this?
:yeah: :chuckle:
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 03, 2022, 06:00:12 AM
Post by: KFhunter on January 03, 2022, 06:08:10 AM
Maybe feel like your going 90
Speedo never lies!
Ok, the speedo might be a little optimistic :chuckle:
Post by: whacker1 on January 03, 2022, 06:24:41 AM
Over the last 5 years, I've put a lot of miles on tracked Ranger XP 1000s. Both 4 seaters and 2 seaters. I would highly recommend the after market clutch kits if you plan on running tracks. I would not consider tracking up anything less than a 1000 either. They are by far not invincible in the snow and there is zero chance any of them will compete with a snowmobile as far as getting into places. They're a great tool for their purpose, but can work the machine hard. Breaking one down in remote areas is another concern unless you have access to a snowcat.Unless of course you have a Honda and I haven't heard any issues with the transmission woth tracks.
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I haven't either, but their top end components enclosing a cab including doors, windows, seals, heaters, AC, navigation, and comfort aren't on par with the Rangers. And yes, I've ran the Pioneer 1000s that are loaded. That clutch kit basically eliminates a blown belt from what I've experienced. I'm a big Honda fan and dislike most everything Polaris except their 50"ers and Ranger XP 1000 Northstars.
Which clutch kits do you recommend? doing research now.
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 03, 2022, 06:29:12 AM
Maybe in KMHMaybe feel like your going 90
Speedo never lies!
Ok, the speedo might be a little optimistic :chuckle:
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Post by: huntandjeep on January 03, 2022, 07:26:50 AM
For a Polaris either a DuraClutch or a Dalton from Hunterworks .Over the last 5 years, I've put a lot of miles on tracked Ranger XP 1000s. Both 4 seaters and 2 seaters. I would highly recommend the after market clutch kits if you plan on running tracks. I would not consider tracking up anything less than a 1000 either. They are by far not invincible in the snow and there is zero chance any of them will compete with a snowmobile as far as getting into places. They're a great tool for their purpose, but can work the machine hard. Breaking one down in remote areas is another concern unless you have access to a snowcat.Unless of course you have a Honda and I haven't heard any issues with the transmission woth tracks.
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I haven't either, but their top end components enclosing a cab including doors, windows, seals, heaters, AC, navigation, and comfort aren't on par with the Rangers. And yes, I've ran the Pioneer 1000s that are loaded. That clutch kit basically eliminates a blown belt from what I've experienced. I'm a big Honda fan and dislike most everything Polaris except their 50"ers and Ranger XP 1000 Northstars.
Which clutch kits do you recommend? doing research now.
Post by: Ironhead on January 03, 2022, 09:32:02 AM
Over the last 5 years, I've put a lot of miles on tracked Ranger XP 1000s. Both 4 seaters and 2 seaters. I would highly recommend the after market clutch kits if you plan on running tracks. I would not consider tracking up anything less than a 1000 either. They are by far not invincible in the snow and there is zero chance any of them will compete with a snowmobile as far as getting into places. They're a great tool for their purpose, but can work the machine hard. Breaking one down in remote areas is another concern unless you have access to a snowcat.Do the 2 seaters get around a lot better than the 4 seaters?
Post by: whacker1 on January 03, 2022, 10:33:02 AM
does fuel consumption go way up with tracks? Is it twice the fuel for tracks?
Post by: hunter399 on January 03, 2022, 11:25:05 AM
Tells me I'm way behind the times,or was born in the wrong century or something.
I need to work harder to get me a sxs.
Post by: luvmystang67 on January 03, 2022, 11:31:56 AM
I do think the best time for tracks on a SxS/mini truck would be in the spring when the snow is patchy. A snowmobile is NOT good then, and cooling would be difficult. On a SxS or mini truck, if you were on hard packed spring snow during the melt, you'd probably be in the best vehicle for the job.
Post by: Katmai Guy on January 03, 2022, 12:01:33 PM
What sort of time does it take to convert from tires to tracks? specialty tools required?
does fuel consumption go way up with tracks? Is it twice the fuel for tracks?
It took me 6hrs to initially install my tracks on my grizzly 700. This included some assembly of brackets and cables to tracks and atv. Now it takes 20-30 min per corner either removing or installing since all the adjustments have been made.
They reduce top speed by about 30% so increases fuel consumption about the same. Nowhere near 50% increase in fuel use.
I know this is on an ATV but install on a UTV should be compareable, not sure on fuel use.
Post by: MtnMuley on January 03, 2022, 03:11:12 PM
Over the last 5 years, I've put a lot of miles on tracked Ranger XP 1000s. Both 4 seaters and 2 seaters. I would highly recommend the after market clutch kits if you plan on running tracks. I would not consider tracking up anything less than a 1000 either. They are by far not invincible in the snow and there is zero chance any of them will compete with a snowmobile as far as getting into places. They're a great tool for their purpose, but can work the machine hard. Breaking one down in remote areas is another concern unless you have access to a snowcat.Unless of course you have a Honda and I haven't heard any issues with the transmission woth tracks.
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I haven't either, but their top end components enclosing a cab including doors, windows, seals, heaters, AC, navigation, and comfort aren't on par with the Rangers. And yes, I've ran the Pioneer 1000s that are loaded. That clutch kit basically eliminates a blown belt from what I've experienced. I'm a big Honda fan and dislike most everything Polaris except their 50"ers and Ranger XP 1000 Northstars.
Which clutch kits do you recommend? doing research now.
Duraclutch is what we use. Also, adjusting the computer module helps it run to what Im guessing is about full potential.
Post by: MtnMuley on January 03, 2022, 03:12:05 PM
Over the last 5 years, I've put a lot of miles on tracked Ranger XP 1000s. Both 4 seaters and 2 seaters. I would highly recommend the after market clutch kits if you plan on running tracks. I would not consider tracking up anything less than a 1000 either. They are by far not invincible in the snow and there is zero chance any of them will compete with a snowmobile as far as getting into places. They're a great tool for their purpose, but can work the machine hard. Breaking one down in remote areas is another concern unless you have access to a snowcat.Do the 2 seaters get around a lot better than the 4 seaters?
The 2 seaters definitely seem to get around better than the 4 seaters. I'm assuming that's a weight issue.
Post by: idaho guy on January 08, 2022, 08:06:09 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 08, 2022, 08:23:03 PM
Towed my razor out today 😡 first time I have had too do that it was overheating. I still have never gotten it stuck. Guy I was lion hunting with today had the Honda pioneer 1000 that looked like a good option way more comfortable I’m not sure it would get around as good as a 50 incher like a razor etc but it looked way more comfortable and went everywhere today
Did he have tracks on it? I was looking at the new Honda Pioneer 520s. They are 50 inches for trails.
Post by: jrebel on January 08, 2022, 08:55:51 PM
Towed my razor out today 😡 first time I have had too do that it was overheating. I still have never gotten it stuck. Guy I was lion hunting with today had the Honda pioneer 1000 that looked like a good option way more comfortable I’m not sure it would get around as good as a 50 incher like a razor etc but it looked way more comfortable and went everywhere today
Did he have tracks on it? I was looking at the new Honda Pioneer 520s. They are 50 inches for trails.
Those 520’s are sweet rides. Great little two seater. Curious how they would perform with tracks being they are only a 500cc machine.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 08, 2022, 09:02:54 PM
Towed my razor out today 😡 first time I have had too do that it was overheating. I still have never gotten it stuck. Guy I was lion hunting with today had the Honda pioneer 1000 that looked like a good option way more comfortable I’m not sure it would get around as good as a 50 incher like a razor etc but it looked way more comfortable and went everywhere today
Did he have tracks on it? I was looking at the new Honda Pioneer 520s. They are 50 inches for trails.
Those 520’s are sweet rides. Great little two seater. Curious how they would perform with tracks being they are only a 500cc machine.
Have you seen any? I’m calling places who say they aren’t taking any more deposits because they already have 5 people waiting and the first one scheduled to show up months out
Post by: jrebel on January 08, 2022, 09:32:01 PM
Towed my razor out today 😡 first time I have had too do that it was overheating. I still have never gotten it stuck. Guy I was lion hunting with today had the Honda pioneer 1000 that looked like a good option way more comfortable I’m not sure it would get around as good as a 50 incher like a razor etc but it looked way more comfortable and went everywhere today
Did he have tracks on it? I was looking at the new Honda Pioneer 520s. They are 50 inches for trails.
Those 520’s are sweet rides. Great little two seater. Curious how they would perform with tracks being they are only a 500cc machine.
Have you seen any? I’m calling places who say they aren’t taking any more deposits because they already have 5 people waiting and the first one scheduled to show up months out
No just online. I looked at the 500s when they came out and about pulled the trigger. I have a 1000-5 and love it. I also have a 500 quad. The 520 will be next. Be a great rig for Idaho and the property. I’m a huge hind fan when it comes to quads and SxS.
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 09, 2022, 06:44:27 AM
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Post by: Ridgeratt on January 09, 2022, 07:44:31 AM
I did learn there is a 30% rule. You will give up 30% of your top speed and 30% of your total range. I'm in the market for a set now but when the suggested retail are close to 6 grand I may have to shop for a bit.
I did speak with a person in Colville who did tell me that you needed at least an 800 to spin them.
I myself really didn't want to buy something that doesn't work for my purpose. I think its called buy once.
Post by: KFhunter on January 09, 2022, 10:08:54 AM
A machine that'll do 80mph at 35 mph, will feel much much nicer than a machine that'll do 50mph, doing 35
Post by: huntandjeep on January 09, 2022, 03:38:25 PM
Not mine just saw them and thought about this thread
Post by: bearpaw on January 10, 2022, 08:33:14 PM
Post by: jrebel on January 11, 2022, 01:23:42 PM
Got to ride in a Honda 1000 on tracks this week. It definitely has quite a bit more power than my Viking 700's to power those tracks. It runs about 30mph pretty comfortably with plenty of snort if you get into the throttle. They hunted hard all week in 2 to 4 feet of snow, running it hour after hour each day, they did back up into a deep ditch and broke one of the support bolts but it got back to the truck fine and they didn't realize it was broke until the next day, when that one track looked a little out of alignment. They figure they have about 5k miles on that set of tracks, the machine itself has over 10k miles and runs like a champ. He has another machine a couple years older with over 20k and still running strong. I think a Pioneer 1000 will be my next UTV purchase.
Thanks for that review Dale. Do you know what brand of tracks he had on his Honda? I love my pioneer....and am in the market for tracks. It would be a great addition to the property winter travel.
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 11, 2022, 04:34:37 PM
I would bet they are Camso. They seem to be the most popular I see on Pioneer forums and Facebook pages.Got to ride in a Honda 1000 on tracks this week. It definitely has quite a bit more power than my Viking 700's to power those tracks. It runs about 30mph pretty comfortably with plenty of snort if you get into the throttle. They hunted hard all week in 2 to 4 feet of snow, running it hour after hour each day, they did back up into a deep ditch and broke one of the support bolts but it got back to the truck fine and they didn't realize it was broke until the next day, when that one track looked a little out of alignment. They figure they have about 5k miles on that set of tracks, the machine itself has over 10k miles and runs like a champ. He has another machine a couple years older with over 20k and still running strong. I think a Pioneer 1000 will be my next UTV purchase.
Thanks for that review Dale. Do you know what brand of tracks he had on his Honda? I love my pioneer....and am in the market for tracks. It would be a great addition to the property winter travel.
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Post by: idaho guy on January 11, 2022, 06:07:37 PM
Towed my razor out today 😡 first time I have had too do that it was overheating. I still have never gotten it stuck. Guy I was lion hunting with today had the Honda pioneer 1000 that looked like a good option way more comfortable I’m not sure it would get around as good as a 50 incher like a razor etc but it looked way more comfortable and went everywhere today
Did he have tracks on it? I was looking at the new Honda Pioneer 520s. They are 50 inches for trails.
yes he had tracks on it-the 520 would be too small I think for tracks -50 incher I would go razor 900 or above which I have had great luck with. My friend has the 50 inch 1000 by can am with tracks thats really good also. i wouldnt go below a 900 for tracks on a utv i tried that already :chuckle:
Post by: time2hunt on January 11, 2022, 09:32:33 PM
https://www.atvtracks.net/track-systems
Should be here next week. In the mean time took the ECU box off and sent it to Gilomen’s to get it flashed. Went with a torque monster clutch kit and heavy duty secondary spring. Running a 1000cc Polaris ranger.
https://gilomeninnovations.com/
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Post by: bearpaw on January 12, 2022, 11:44:30 AM
Got to ride in a Honda 1000 on tracks this week. It definitely has quite a bit more power than my Viking 700's to power those tracks. It runs about 30mph pretty comfortably with plenty of snort if you get into the throttle. They hunted hard all week in 2 to 4 feet of snow, running it hour after hour each day, they did back up into a deep ditch and broke one of the support bolts but it got back to the truck fine and they didn't realize it was broke until the next day, when that one track looked a little out of alignment. They figure they have about 5k miles on that set of tracks, the machine itself has over 10k miles and runs like a champ. He has another machine a couple years older with over 20k and still running strong. I think a Pioneer 1000 will be my next UTV purchase.
Thanks for that review Dale. Do you know what brand of tracks he had on his Honda? I love my pioneer....and am in the market for tracks. It would be a great addition to the property winter travel.
The Camso 4s, it's the same ones I have, they work well and when you wear out all the bearings you can get replacements in the Spokane Valley.
Post by: time2hunt on January 22, 2022, 08:06:50 PM
Have had a new set on order for 6 weeks fromTracks arrived on Tuesday so Pinetar and myself made a flying trip to Spokane on Wednesday to pick them up. So on Thursday
https://www.atvtracks.net/track-systems
Should be here next week. In the mean time took the ECU box off and sent it to Gilomen’s to get it flashed. Went with a torque monster clutch kit and heavy duty secondary spring. Running a 1000cc Polaris ranger.
https://gilomeninnovations.com/
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After a couple Coors light and throwing away the instruction. I went straight to YouTube And was able to figure out how to mount and adjust them for proper track angle. Haven’t had a change to run them anywhere beside the field for break in but all I can say is wow. I’m running a stock Polaris ranger and with the track I have 18 inches of clearance. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220123/3ea38959cb9311eff21fe7ea46e4e7f2.jpg)
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Post by: Pinetar on January 22, 2022, 08:40:03 PM
I got my tracks on my SxS as well. Ran them all over in the pastures today and it goes great. Not as fast as my four wheelers but a lot warmer and dryer. The old Lab likes it a lot more laying on the front seat instead of the back seat of the four wheeler getting snow thrown in her face :chuckle:
Now time to take it to the hills and try it out in the deep stuff!!
Post by: actionshooter on January 22, 2022, 08:55:39 PM
Thanks for the insight from the guys who have them!
Post by: MtnMuley on January 22, 2022, 09:29:59 PM
Have had a new set on order for 6 weeks fromTracks arrived on Tuesday so Pinetar and myself made a flying trip to Spokane on Wednesday to pick them up. So on Thursday
https://www.atvtracks.net/track-systems
Should be here next week. In the mean time took the ECU box off and sent it to Gilomen’s to get it flashed. Went with a torque monster clutch kit and heavy duty secondary spring. Running a 1000cc Polaris ranger.
https://gilomeninnovations.com/
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After a couple Coors light and throwing away the instruction. I went straight to YouTube And was able to figure out how to mount and adjust them for proper track angle. Haven’t had a change to run them anywhere beside the field for break in but all I can say is wow. I’m running a stock Polaris ranger and with the track I have 18 inches of clearance. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220123/3ea38959cb9311eff21fe7ea46e4e7f2.jpg)
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Hopefully she's a bit more dependable than that 4 link beast has been lately :chuckle:
Post by: time2hunt on January 22, 2022, 09:34:44 PM
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Post by: time2hunt on February 02, 2022, 09:54:38 AM
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Post by: Southpole on February 02, 2022, 09:58:20 AM
Post by: HillHound on February 02, 2022, 10:03:54 AM
Going up in the deep snow right now to get a belt on a friend’s Ranger 1000. Do not travel in high gear in deep snow on an incline :rolleyes: , lesson learned I hope.:yeah: My Can-Am luckily has an override so you don’t burn the belt up. If you’re in the high and like you said get into deep snow or steep inclines it will bog down and tell you to shift to low before you start breaking stuff.
Hopefully the belt chang goes smoothly and you can get them back on the trail
Post by: Mudman on February 02, 2022, 10:21:39 AM
Post by: time2hunt on February 02, 2022, 10:36:54 AM
Spare belt
Complete tool kit and track spare parts ( bolts and spacer blocks ).
Snow shoes
Shovel
Small propane torch ( hard to work on a frozen machine)
A couple ratchet straps
Hand or chain saw
And at least one day of emergency supplies water, food and heat source.
Please feel free to add on to list
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Post by: Jingles on February 02, 2022, 11:35:04 AM
This is a good time to also bring up your winter travel kit.I would suggest a tarp big enough to completely cover your machine for shelter if happen to be stuck out over night as tarp will keep the temp under it bearable/and help survive.
Spare belt
Complete tool kit and track spare parts ( bolts and spacer blocks ).
Snow shoes
Shovel
Small propane torch ( hard to work on a frozen machine)
A couple ratchet straps
Hand or chain saw
And at least one day of emergency supplies water, food and heat source.
Please feel free to add on to list
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Post by: MtnMuley on February 02, 2022, 12:36:09 PM
This is a good time to also bring up your winter travel kit.
Spare belt
Complete tool kit and track spare parts ( bolts and spacer blocks ).
Snow shoes
Shovel
Small propane torch ( hard to work on a frozen machine)
A couple ratchet straps
Hand or chain saw
And at least one day of emergency supplies water, food and heat source.
Please feel free to add on to list
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The most important part for most folks is to actually watch YouTube videos or have some notes written down on tips and tricks to working on the machine before they get in they predicament. I hear stories all the time of lack of preparedness and/or lack of common sense leading to stranded machines.
Post by: Southpole on February 03, 2022, 08:09:14 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 03, 2022, 09:36:41 AM
Well, that was a long day. Make sure you always keep a spare belt and more importantly make sure if it requires a special tool to remove/install it that you have that too. What should have been a quick mountain fix turned into 2 day run around getting the correct components. To add to the day a loaded log truck overturned in the middle of highway 530 due to 2 dudes pulling a U turn in front of him, 5 miles away from my house. So, turn around and made the long trek to Rockport to highway 20, to the freeway back to 530, back home. On the bright side it was a good excuse to take the side by side into the mountains.
Belt off snowmobile, or sxs?
Post by: MtnMuley on February 03, 2022, 10:04:23 AM
Post by: Southpole on February 03, 2022, 10:30:34 AM
Post by: Pinetar on February 03, 2022, 11:18:30 AM
Post by: Southpole on February 03, 2022, 11:28:29 AM
I have been running tracked machines since 2008 and everything Time2hunt mentioned to have along is HUGE. Most importantly are the snowshoes, you do not want to break down way back in somewhere and have to posthole coming out. I have been broke down many times and been lucky as I was always able to fix the issue on the mountain or had another rig along to get out. What Mtnmuley mentioned is also huge, if you know how to work on the tracks it can be the difference of getting home safely or not. Tracks are great when they are brand new but after several years of use they can become a maintenance nightmare if you do not keep up with the maintenance.Most definitely!