Post by: Craig on January 01, 2022, 04:20:12 PM
Post by: MADMAX on January 01, 2022, 04:25:39 PM
But the 22-250 guys were cleaning up when we went
Post by: wadu1 on January 01, 2022, 05:12:50 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 01, 2022, 05:27:43 PM
The 17 HMR is great up to about 150 yards .
Post by: b23 on January 01, 2022, 05:43:41 PM
What would be your pick for a dedicated prairie dog gun? Accurate, 150-200 yard max range, high volume shooting, and I don’t reload ( at least yet ). I was leaning towards a .17 HMR. Any other recommendations?
Based on the parameters you give, 200 yard max, high volume shooting, don't reload, my top three choices in order would be 17 Hornet, 17 WSM, 17 HMR.
Unfortunately CZ has stopped making the 527 so finding one let alone a CZ 527 in 17 Hornet could be a little difficult not to mention if you do you'll pay through the nose for them. Also, 17 Hornet ammo has dried up big time so finding any is very difficult.
The 17 WSM is a fair bit more potent than is the 17 HMR but like the 17 Hornet the available guns in 17 WSM is very limited and the quality of those is ehh ok at best unless you want to spend $4000+ for a RimX 17 WSM build.
17 HMR is an "ok" option but they definitely have the best selection of available rifles and ammo is generally pretty easy to find, unfortunately, it's about double the cost what it used to be.
My top three list is based off of already having them and a pretty good stockpile to shoot in them so I suppose if I was starting from scratch and had to source a gun and ammo to shoot in that gun I'd probably go 17 HMR.
Post by: jasnt on January 01, 2022, 09:25:53 PM
Post by: Stein on January 01, 2022, 09:28:11 PM
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Post by: KFhunter on January 02, 2022, 08:56:19 AM
Little trash talk, lotsa fun
Post by: Bob33 on January 02, 2022, 09:04:20 AM
Post by: Craig on January 02, 2022, 02:06:20 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 02, 2022, 02:47:17 PM
More then likely going with a .17HMR. All private land and I can just drive up to them, Unlimited shooting and most of the time will be 50-75 yards. Out to 200 just for fun . If I reloaded I might look into something bigger. I already have a few .223 rifles. But that would get expensive to shoot a couple hundred rounds a day or weekend.:tup: At shorter distances like that the 17 HMR is perfect.
You will hopefully have lots of these.
Post by: highcountry_hunter on January 03, 2022, 04:13:04 AM
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on January 03, 2022, 05:40:54 AM
17hmr .40 a round 2375fps (standard 17gr fmj)
.22 LR target .10 a round 1070fps (standard 40gr lead plinking rounds)
.22 cal air .03 a round 975fps (standard shape 15.5gr)
Post by: Stein on January 03, 2022, 08:39:35 AM
Post by: jasnt on January 03, 2022, 09:00:57 AM
I'm not sure that would work so well, the .22 LR doesn't exactly crush them most of the time. Hollow points are required, solid bullets roll them on body shots but they often get up and keep running in my experience.i would agree. Even if it’s just varmints I want then dead ASAP.
Post by: b23 on January 03, 2022, 11:38:04 AM
Carnage, the splat factor and RatObatics is what makes it fun. If they just tip over dead it's kind of a uneventful. :chuckle:I'm not sure that would work so well, the .22 LR doesn't exactly crush them most of the time. Hollow points are required, solid bullets roll them on body shots but they often get up and keep running in my experience.i would agree. Even if it’s just varmints I want then dead ASAP.
It's a real bummer the 17 Hornet didn't take off better than it has because out to 350 the little 17 Hornet is a death ray on PD/ground squirrels and does so with considerably more splat factor than the 17 HMR or 17 WSM. It's something you can shoot all day without breaking the bank or torching a barrel too. CZ made a good one in their 527 line but in CZ's infinite wisdom they've decided to stop making the 527 as well as it doesn't appear they chamber that new thing they have coming out in 17 Hornet. I think Savage still makes something in 17 Hornet and I'm not sure if Ruger still has their 77/17 Hornet or not.
Post by: jasnt on January 03, 2022, 11:52:31 AM
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Post by: STEVO85 on January 03, 2022, 06:23:58 PM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on January 03, 2022, 07:00:51 PM
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62gr Berger at 4K does well
OMIGOD!
Post by: jasnt on January 03, 2022, 09:44:40 PM
28” 1:7 if ya believe that. Even 58gr survived that twist and speedsQuote62gr Berger at 4K does well
OMIGOD!
Post by: huntnphool on January 03, 2022, 11:09:06 PM
An accurate .22lr for 0-150 and an accurate 17hmr for 0-300 is all you really need. You could stretch them both out a little farther if you wanted as well, plus they are much cheaper to shoot in volume. I shoot quite a few squirrels and rock chucks with that pair and never feel under gunned unless a coyote pops up or the wind is blowing pretty good, those little bullets drift a lot.
+1, 300 is no problem on ground rats with a 17HMR. :twocents:
Post by: Lead ball 54 on January 04, 2022, 12:18:10 PM