Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Out Of State Hunting => Topic started by: haftard on January 19, 2022, 03:56:49 PM
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Ok guys here is where I'm stuck. Idk if I should get a hot tent or build a cargo trailer with a wood stove or diesel heater. I'm leaning towards a hot tent because you can get a tent alot do places you can't get a trailer. What do you guys use for your out the of state hunting camps. And I'm talking broke boy hunt camps. Ceo doctors and lawyers need not apply.
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i built mine 16x8,I found a rv propane heater on craigslist mounted it in the front and love it.
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kodiak canvas 10x14, buddy heater and a 5 gallon propane tank can all be had for $600
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Cargo trailer with folding bunks, stove, sink, water tank, shelves/cabinet and small wood stove. Can park and be set up in 10 minutes and just as short a time to pack up and leave or move. Couldn't be happier with camp. I can tow it up horrible roads and other uses too.
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Poor man route.
Costco carport. Sets up in 20 minutes.
Cut hole out side and glue on appropriate size stove pipe heat deflector. Use portable wood stove...
Or bring a Mr buddy and 5 gallon propane tank and heat it for a week easily.
I've used this set up for elk all over wa and north Idaho deer...no issues. Travels easy.
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some pics.
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another.
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bed down for use.
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My vote is a tent, especially if it's gonna be more than just you.
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Another pro on the cargo,I plan to put an observation/storage deck on top for coyote hunting with lights mounted on safety rail.just have to walk around the ac unit.plus all the gear inside is much more secure.
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Foam pad in the back of the truck, Mr. Heater, done. Zero setup, minimal cost, you can move every day if you want and stay wherever you want.
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i forgot to add that i have access to a 15x15 wall tent. im looking for more of a quick set up tent for 1 or 2 people with a stove jack if i was going to go the tent rout. sleeping in the back of my truck aint realy an option since its always full of junk, only a 5ft bed and the canopy leaks.
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Poor man route.
Costco carport. Sets up in 20 minutes.
Cut hole out side and glue on appropriate size stove pipe heat deflector. Use portable wood stove...
Or bring a Mr buddy and 5 gallon propane tank and heat it for a week easily.
I've used this set up for elk all over wa and north Idaho deer...no issues. Travels easy.
that acculay sounds like a pretty slick set up. a would be a really cheep wall tent.
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i forgot to add that i have access to a 15x15 wall tent. im looking for more of a quick set up tent for 1 or 2 people with a stove jack if i was going to go the tent rout. sleeping in the back of my truck aint realy an option since its always full of junk, only a 5ft bed and the canopy leaks.
If it's only one or two people.....I would go with a utility trailer or a Kodiak Canvas. The trailer can be multi purpose and used year round for multiple task. Given those parameters.....I would go cargo trailer. I own all both tents (wall and kodiak) and they definitely have their different applications. Anything less than a 5 day hunt...the wall tent is to much of a pain to set up and take down.
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kodiak canvas 10x14, buddy heater and a 5 gallon propane tank can all be had for $600
i like the idea but propane heat is a no go for me. i gotta have a wood stove to mess around with and cuss when its smokie.
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i forgot to add that i have access to a 15x15 wall tent. im looking for more of a quick set up tent for 1 or 2 people with a stove jack if i was going to go the tent rout. sleeping in the back of my truck aint realy an option since its always full of junk, only a 5ft bed and the canopy leaks.
If it's only one or two people.....I would go with a utility trailer or a Kodiak Canvas. The trailer can be multi purpose and used year round for multiple task. Given those parameters.....I would go cargo trailer. I own all both tents (wall and kodiak) and they definitely have their different applications. Anything less than a 5 day hunt...the wall tent is to much of a pain to set up and take down.
aint that the truth. wall tents can be a huge pain in then rear but are super nice for exstened stays and bad weather.
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Cargo trailer with folding bunks, stove, sink, water tank, shelves/cabinet and small wood stove. Can park and be set up in 10 minutes and just as short a time to pack up and leave or move. Couldn't be happier with camp. I can tow it up horrible roads and other uses too.
:yeah: setup a 20' trailer. Pull the FJ40 out, fold the bunks down. Fire up the wood stove. No moisture worries like LP.
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Lol,Almost forgot the main reason i went to cargo from tent was the Bobcat that got in my tent with me one night.It was quite an ordeal and wasnt easy to get that cat out.
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kodiak canvas 10x14, buddy heater and a 5 gallon propane tank can all be had for $600
i like the idea but propane heat is a no go for me. i gotta have a wood stove to mess around with and cuss when its smokie.
Until you get back to camp well after dark, cold and tired and can have heat at the push of a button. No getting up at night to add wood and it takes up minimal space. The only thing it doesn’t do is dry clothes like wood stove does.
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For going to Montana I bought a 12x12 Alaknak from a member here instead of hauling my wall tent and frame. It goes up and down way faster, takes up a lot less space to haul and I can set it up anywhere I can drive the truck. The little dog stove keeps it nice and toasty even when the temperature goes into negative territory.
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For going to Montana I bought a 12x12 Alaknak from a member here instead of hauling my wall tent and frame. It goes up and down way faster, takes up a lot less space to haul and I can set it up anywhere I can drive the truck. The little dog stove keeps it nice and toasty even when the temperature goes into negative territory.
SPEAKING OF MONTANA THIS YEAR,OH MY GOD THE WIND WAS 60 MPH FOR THE WEEK I WAS THERE FOR ELK.Super glad i had the cargo trailer for that.
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I like the cargo trailer idea. I’ve been thinking about doing this for a couple years just haven’t done it yet.
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no way Id have a trailer to hunt. I wouldnt be able to hunt 90% of where I hunt. Wall tent and wood stove is all I need.
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nice rig! i have cots in my enclosed mc trailer and a buddy heater/ powered. use were i can, mostly weekend runs . i too have wall tents for long term setups but it really is nice to hook and run like that!
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Foam pad in the back of the truck, Mr. Heater, done. Zero setup, minimal cost, you can move every day if you want and stay wherever you want.
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Make sure you have adequate vents.
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I lost a friend that did that.
Co2 poisoning.
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For going to Montana I bought a 12x12 Alaknak from a member here instead of hauling my wall tent and frame. It goes up and down way faster, takes up a lot less space to haul and I can set it up anywhere I can drive the truck. The little dog stove keeps it nice and toasty even when the temperature goes into negative territory.
SPEAKING OF MONTANA THIS YEAR,OH MY GOD THE WIND WAS 60 MPH FOR THE WEEK I WAS THERE FOR ELK.Super glad i had the cargo trailer for that.
Those alaknaks hold their own in the wind. We had 70+ in the church one year and watched multiple wall tents end up in the river. The old alaknak held strong, some very minor tearing on a couple seams but that was it
Given your parameters I'd do an Alaknak/Kodiak style tent with a stove. I hunt out of my 14' cargo trailer a lot when I'm by myself, it's great for weekend trips and a week is doable but there are certain places it can't go. It pretty much stays loaded all season so I can hook up and go whenever. Most longer out of state trips we'll do the wall tent, usually I've got somebody else with me on those and there's a lot more room to stretch your legs. I have no problem setting up the wall tent for a 4 or 5 day hunt if need be, I can have the whole deal up in less than an hour. Bonus on cold late season hunts is bringing along a plastic kiddie pool and having the trailer for a heated shower room. Even though the Alaknak gets used the least these days I think it's the most versatile for what you're wanting :twocents: :dunno:
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so i will throw in my thoughts here - in a word , BOTH.. i have the mobile trailer mostly for spring adventures, great for turkey hunting, cots inside, insulated, powered.. connect and go..summer i use for motorcycle transportation to tracks for fall camping (elk/deer ect) i normally setup for several weeks and i use wall tents for that but still need to transport all the gear to camp area. use trailer to transport all my gear, even put a portable freezer/ bolt in gunsafe inside for fall. its very handy to have the space out of the weather too.. enclosed utility trailers are handy, not end all though.. start with trailer , build your inventory, have options... most park land/ dnr allows camping and the trailer is a great run and gun sure you are NOT going 4 wheeling with a trailer attached but you would be surprised where you can get one of them!.. 15 minutes to move. tents packup are a significant time burden.
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What's the benefit of an enclosed trailer conversion over a simple travel trailer? Seems a lot easier to just buy a travel trailer.
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What's the benefit of an enclosed trailer conversion over a simple travel trailer? Seems a lot easier to just buy a travel trailer.
i use mine for everything from motorcycle to gear transportation to sleeping in now.. travel trailers are single use items.. that is my only answer for ya!
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What's the benefit of an enclosed trailer conversion over a simple travel trailer? Seems a lot easier to just buy a travel trailer.
In my mind its that a trailer conversion could still be used to haul things where the travel trailer is just that. I have went back and forth between both of those along with tents. They all have their place
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What's the benefit of an enclosed trailer conversion over a simple travel trailer? Seems a lot easier to just buy a travel trailer.
in my opinion the cargo trailer is simply built stronger.You gotta put serious coin down to buy the camp trailer that is built for some of the roads i pull the cargo trailer up.The standard camp trailer frames flex all over the place allowing to much movement with the cabin itself. :twocents: Now i will say that the cargo trailer is a much heavier pull.
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how is the vents setup in a cargo trailer, do you cut in a stove jack for a small wood stove, or what CO poisonings concerns do you have/avoid, do you cook in yours or is it just a bed and small table and dry place to escape?
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how is the vents setup in a cargo trailer, do you cut in a stove jack for a small wood stove, or what CO poisonings concerns do you have/avoid, do you cook in yours or is it just a bed and small table and dry place to escape?
i open door to allow free flow while cooking on the lp stove.my rv heater is completely sealed so no co comes inside from the heater.Using a wood stove inside a cargo trailer would require a lot of venting because the stove will burn off all the oxygen inside to burn.cargo trailers have a vent in the front and a vent in the rear its only about a 3 inch hole on each end.
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Kodiak tent
Buddy heater
Cots
ATV wagon
ATV
Rest of camping/hunting stuff
With an atv wagon you can get way back, I don't find much need for a spike camp when you can get so close with atv unless you're doing wilderness of course
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I'm also using a little motorcycle and putting stuff on the racks if going back on single track, there's a killer little trailer I plan to get too
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I have two different setup depending on the distance I'm traveling and the expected road conditions. First is my chevy pickup with a 6-1/2' bed and a canopy. I bought the canopy years ago for $500. I put the bike hitch on the receiver for my mountain bike and coolers/totes in the bed. I have a folding pad that's 3" thick for sleeping and small propane heater for cold nights. If I'm driving a long distance and the roads aren't a concern I steal the wife's Subaru outback and put a thule on the roof rack, it has a 2" receiver for my bike rack as well. I can sleep in the vehicle/bed and be more mobile for hunting. In the winter I will pack a 10x10' pop up canopy for getting out of the weather. Breaking camp takes minutes and I usually spend one night in the woods and one at the vehicle as I'm moving around. I like the idea of a big camp, but being mobile and able to relocate has been very pivotal in my elk hunting success.
Once I'm away from my rig I use a hybrid system depending on the weather conditions. I have a Borah Bivy, 5x9' flat tarp, a SO Silex, 12" LO cylinder stove, 30 degree quilt, synthetic puffy pants and hoody, insulated Nemo pad. I can run down to 20 degrees comfortably and the backpack camp runs anywhere from 3.5 pounds to 8.75 pounds depending on the weather/season.
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I just found out I'll be sleeping in a seek cimmeron with Ti stove this year :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Good to have good hunting partner :chuckle:
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I just found out I'll be sleeping in a seek cimmeron with Ti stove this year :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Good to have good hunting partner :chuckle:
That's a good setup. Two of the guys in my group have that, one is Dyneema the other sil-nylon. Great for a two person hot tent and splitting the weight.