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Other Activities => Trapping => Topic started by: Jingles on February 04, 2022, 08:32:56 AM
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If the person checking my traps is a member here just want to let you know I am quite capable of checking my traps by myself and do NOT need or want your assistance so go set and check your own traps and leave mine alone.
The first time you checked them you did not wear snowshoes and post holed in several places now you have wisened up and are wearing snowshoes.
No it is not someone just out for a walk as the person only goes to the traps and stays on the trail I made when I initially set my traps out. Game warden advised and pictures to follow
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If the person checking my traps is a member here just want to let you know I am quite capable of checking my traps by myself and do NOT need or want your assistance so go set and check your own traps and leave mine alone.
The first time you checked them you did not wear snowshoes and post holed in several places now you have wisened up and are wearing snowshoes.
No it is not someone just out for a walk as the person only goes to the traps and stays on the trail I made when I initially set my traps out. Game warden advised and pictures to follow
Like the *%#*€<* that pull your crab pots ‘just to see if you have anything’. Probably won’t take the same care putting them back down.
AND have no business messing with them in the first place.
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Could is possibly be a game warden checking your traps to make sure they are marked accordingly and being checked in the appropriate time window? Probably not but it’s possible.
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Both game wardens have seen my traps and the tags and approved both, plus doubt the game wardens would need to check them on a daily/nightly basis.
So no is not one of the game wardens did notice this morning that one of the marten traps has been tampered with since I set it as I always place my cables a certain way in relation to the trap on the leaning tree. Whoever it is will wish to hell o they ever bothered my traps if I catch them, forget what the law does it'll be a hell of a long walk out shoeless
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Put a trail cam up and catch them. Nothing better than making these people famous.
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Trail cameras will be up to catch them and determine what time of day or night they are making their rounds so I can greet them and impress upon them the errors of their ways a 1.7 mile barefoot hike in 3 feet of snow should give them incentive to change their ways.
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If they are checking them as often as you say it shouldn’t be to hard to catch em in the act
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Very true if the trap line was all I had to do during the day and could set there waiting for them, however I do have a life outside of trapping. I'LL catch them and will advise they need to change their ways.
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Trail cameras will be up to cat h them and determine what time of day or night they are making their rounds so I can greet them and i.pressupon them the errors of their ways a 1.7 mile barefoot hike in 3 feet of snow should give them incentive to change their ways.
Can't wait to see pics. :tup: Hope you catch them......no excuse to mess with others traps.
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I'm sure the guy will remove them for you and skin them. :chuckle:
No sign of him taking a cat I hope. That would really piss me off!
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I'm sure the guy will remove them for you and skin them. :chuckle:
No sign of him taking a cat I hope. That would really piss me off!
I've visited a few traps that had nothing but a few cat hairs on the cage wire. That will ruin your night
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I'm sure the guy will remove them for you and skin them. :chuckle:
No sign of him taking a cat I hope. That would really piss me off!
I've visited a few traps that had nothing but a few cat hairs on the cage wire. That will ruin your night
With my setups there is no doubt if a cat was caught. Some have cameras and most are locked to a tree. Lowlife people sure can take a lot of enjoyment out of our sport.
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Waiting for the pictures of the culprit.
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Update
Monday 3 cage and 1 marten traps all sprung, 4th cage the individual stood about 5 feet from the trap and pizzed between his snowshoes
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Time for a new trapline....
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Update
Monday 3 cage and 1 marten traps all sprung, 4th cage the individual stood about 5 feet from the trap and pizzed between his snowshoes
Between his snowshoes? He may be a she :chuckle:
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Update
Monday 3 cage and 1 marten traps all sprung, 4th cage the individual stood about 5 feet from the trap and pizzed between his snowshoes
Between his snowshoes? He may be a she :chuckle:
Or it is just really, really cold....
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It’s a pain but I would move them. Pretty soon the traps might not be there when you get there. Cages are spendy to replace. If someone is already breaking the law theft isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
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Waiting for the pictures of the culprit.
:yeah:
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New problem developing, had 1 person conta t me about catching a chicken killer, that person gave my name and number to someone else now another called about trapping a chicken killer, need to find a,WCO in my area I can apprentice under so I can get my permit.
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What a POS loser. It would be too bad if he stuck his arm in a set and for some reason, a 330 Conibear snapped shut on his worthless arm.
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New problem developing, had 1 person conta t me about catching a chicken killer, that person gave my name and number to someone else now another called about trapping a chicken killer, need to find a,WCO in my area I can apprentice under so I can get my permit.
if it’s during rec season, not sure you’d need a wco. You should be able to trap legally right now
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New problem developing, had 1 person conta t me about catching a chicken killer, that person gave my name and number to someone else now another called about trapping a chicken killer, need to find a,WCO in my area I can apprentice under so I can get my permit.
if it’s during rec season, not sure you’d need a wco. You should be able to trap legally right now
You can trap for them but not charge for services unless you are a WCO.
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New problem developing, had 1 person conta t me about catching a chicken killer, that person gave my name and number to someone else now another called about trapping a chicken killer, need to find a,WCO in my area I can apprentice under so I can get my permit.
if it’s during rec season, not sure you’d need a wco. You should be able to trap legally right now
You can trap for them but not charge for services unless you are a WCO.
:yeah: All a WCO permit does is allow you to charge for trapping services. Even during the off season if you have a friend who needs problem wildlife (furbearers and unclassified wildlife) trapped, you can do it, just not charge.
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Thank you for the clarification on needing a,WCO PERMIT
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Personally, I would remove my traps.
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can you accept a "donation" without a wco permit?
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This is the exact quote
“ It is unlawful to trap nuisance wildlife on the property of another for a fee or other consideration without a current and valid WCO certification (WAC 232-36-065)”
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Not even considering any kind of payment or accepting donation other than keeping what is caught, cats or what ever else is captured and having the ability to trap on his
entire fenced property, which abutts WDFW and not have to worry about people walking trap line.
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Camera is 12 hrs off
Pictures taken same day I broke new trail to move trap
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Granola muncher.
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Looks like a curious old lady
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That is just a harmless grandma out for her stroll.
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Does she have hairy armpits? Her intentions would be revealed. :chuckle:
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Yep purely coincidental that she just happened to follow a newly broken trail less than 2 hrs after I moved trap.
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Be a real shame if she got tore up trying to release some caught critter. Real shame.
Too bad you didn’t get pics of her squatting in the snow! Could put them up. “Anyone know this peeson?”
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I know where I would be sitting at 0930 with a live camera
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I know where I would be sitting at 0930 with a live camera
Be a real shame if she got tore up trying to release some caught critter. Real shame.
Too bad you didn’t get pics of her squatting in the snow! Could put them up. “Anyone know this peeson?”
Jingles you may have a few folks who will join you. Just gather up a bucket of tar and some feathers and go have a meeting with the platinum haired grandma.
Isn't there something about innocent until proven guilty?
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Barefoot walk back to her vehicle from the trap could be interesting too. Then when she goes to court and complains because she had to walk barefoot in the snow she could explain why she was forced to, I was messing with a trappers traps and got caught, was given choice barefoot or nude.
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Yep purely coincidental that she just happened to follow a newly broken trail less than 2 hrs after I moved trap.
Where the doors dropped?
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Did you report her? This is a crime. She lives in the area. Shouldn't be to hard to solve.
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OK, I don't condone any of this kind of crap but I have to ask the question. How are you going to take her shoes and socks? At Gunpoint? We have a term for that in this country. It's called armed robbery. I don't care what kind of judge hears it, that ain't gonna end well for ya.
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I would make time to confront! Show them the law and try to get name and info. Can you track them? I caught a grandma and grandpa once many years ago. I kept telling them they were going to jail. They apologized and quit. I scared the puddin out of them though.
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Barefoot walk back to her vehicle from the trap could be interesting too. Then when she goes to court and complains because she had to walk barefoot in the snow she could explain why she was forced to, I was messing with a trappers traps and got caught, was given choice barefoot or nude.
Did you choose barefoot or nude? I don’t think I would give her the nude option but that just me 😂 you can’t unsee some things
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Is that Lorna?
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This ain’t funny. She’s a pathetic thief. Deserves no less than a man doing the same crap. Don’t sleep on a few well placed 330s dusted under the snow, you’re just trying to catch that smart predator that’s raiding your traps, right?
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I'm not convinced it's her at all, that trail is well used, probably by her, you probably put a trap line on her walking trail :bash:
You need to quit setting up on urban walking paths dude, she ain't far from home. Unless I don't understand what "broke trail" means
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I'm not convinced it's her at all, that trail is well used, probably by her, you probably put a trap line on her walking trail :bash:
You need to quit setting up on urban walking paths dude, she ain't far from home. Unless I don't understand what "broke trail" means
Ok, if you follow her tracks in the snow and see she lives in a house made of gingerbread, RUN!
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Move the trap! We don't need any bad publicity and I can guarantee you anything that goes public will go against trappers.
But that's not right, its the way it is though.
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All traps pulled from that area to avoid any possible conflict I'm to old to put up with this kinda crap and not get angry and ahead, but taking ecaller out to attempt at calling this critter in. Spooky thing is the tracks followed my path for quite aways before stepping off on virgin snow where I could get decent picture no tracks around when moved trap to new location, first trap check after moving there they are.
Fortunately able to move traps to some fenced private property
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I'm not convinced it's her at all, that trail is well used, probably by her, you probably put a trap line on her walking trail :bash:
Did not set up in urban
You need to quit setting up on urban walking paths dude, she ain't far from home. Unless I don't understand what "broken trail means
Did not set up on any urban walking path, when I set traps I was the first one to make tracks in 3 feet of snow and trap line was 3.49 miles (according to onx) broken trail is making new trail through virgin snow. Yes trail is well used as per regs traps checked everyday so just my going in and out everyday is going to make it well used.
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Ok, that's legit :tup:
Sucks people found your line, someone asked a question, did she spring the traps?
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Not that time but that trap was put in that location just a few hrs earlier than the picture.
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You found her little puddy tat! You need to contact her! That was all she was looking for!
It would be sort of humorous on all of us if it turned out her deceased husband was a trapper and she was reminiscing about the ‘Good ‘ole days’ while following the trap line.
I doubt that is it, but you never know.
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Not that time but that trap was put in that location just a few hrs earlier than the picture.
If she were all the things people said about her here, when you put her on social media, she would have closed the trap doors every time without fail. You even threaten her harm, and she didn't even mess with your traps by your own admission.
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This thread just shows innocent until proven guilty is so forgone in this country , you have zero proof , if it really was your intention to catch them why wouldn’t camera be within site of trap come on really , and then you say you would make them
Walk back barefoot let’s be real here we have laws for a reason , report it try for your photos or move spots which does suck but trapping and hunting are losing a footing all the time because of this crap
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This thread just shows innocent until proven guilty is so forgone in this country , you have zero proof , if it really was your intention to catch them why wouldn’t camera be within site of trap come on really , and then you say you would make them
Walk back barefoot let’s be real here we have laws for a reason , report it try for your photos or move spots which does suck but trapping and hunting are losing a footing all the time because of this crap
wrong , I caught a guy that did worse to my trap by destroying it and releasing a cat and the state did not prosecute them so if I catch someone messing with my traps they’ll be lucky to be able to walk out on 2 legs . Absolutely no difference then someone stealing or messing with your stuff on your property. The reason our foothold of hunting and trapping are disappearing is because of people that are cowards and not standing up to people ! 100 years ago thieves got hung or shot or the very least the crap beat outta them
If it’s WOKE it’s BROKE
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This thread just shows innocent until proven guilty is so forgone in this country , you have zero proof , if it really was your intention to catch them why wouldn’t camera be within site of trap come on really , and then you say you would make them
Walk back barefoot let’s be real here we have laws for a reason , report it try for your photos or move spots which does suck but trapping and hunting are losing a footing all the time because of this crap
wrong , I caught a guy that did worse to my trap by destroying it and releasing a cat and the state did not prosecute them so if I catch someone messing with my traps they’ll be lucky to be able to walk out on 2 legs . Absolutely no difference then someone stealing or messing with your stuff on your property. The reason our foothold of hunting and trapping are disappearing is because of people that are cowards and not standing up to people ! 100 years ago thieves got hung or shot or the very least the crap beat outta them
If it’s WOKE it’s BROKE
Traps>human life
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This thread just shows innocent until proven guilty is so forgone in this country , you have zero proof , if it really was your intention to catch them why wouldn’t camera be within site of trap come on really , and then you say you would make them
Walk back barefoot let’s be real here we have laws for a reason , report it try for your photos or move spots which does suck but trapping and hunting are losing a footing all the time because of this crap
wrong , I caught a guy that did worse to my trap by destroying it and releasing a cat and the state did not prosecute them so if I catch someone messing with my traps they’ll be lucky to be able to walk out on 2 legs . Absolutely no difference then someone stealing or messing with your stuff on your property. The reason our foothold of hunting and trapping are disappearing is because of people that are cowards and not standing up to people ! 100 years ago thieves got hung or shot or the very least the crap beat outta them
If it’s WOKE it’s BROKE
Has nothing to do with being woke , we have a court of law for good reason sucks they didn’t prosecute them and I don’t know why they wouldn’t if you did give them all the info , I have held someone at gun point pulling quads out of my garage and almost faced charges , what I am saying is saying someone is guilty without proof like posted here doesn’t help at all , given if you wanna take the risk hey do you it’s the point of innocent until proven guilty is in place for a reason
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This thread just shows innocent until proven guilty is so forgone in this country , you have zero proof , if it really was your intention to catch them why wouldn’t camera be within site of trap come on really , and then you say you would make them
Walk back barefoot let’s be real here we have laws for a reason , report it try for your photos or move spots which does suck but trapping and hunting are losing a footing all the time because of this crap
wrong , I caught a guy that did worse to my trap by destroying it and releasing a cat and the state did not prosecute them so if I catch someone messing with my traps they’ll be lucky to be able to walk out on 2 legs . Absolutely no difference then someone stealing or messing with your stuff on your property. The reason our foothold of hunting and trapping are disappearing is because of people that are cowards and not standing up to people ! 100 years ago thieves got hung or shot or the very least the crap beat outta them
If it’s WOKE it’s BROKE
Has nothing to do with being woke , we have a court of law for good reason sucks they didn’t prosecute them and I don’t know why they wouldn’t if you did give them all the info , I have held someone at gun point pulling quads out of my garage and almost faced charges , what I am saying is saying someone is guilty without proof like posted here doesn’t help at all , given if you wanna take the risk hey do you it’s the point of innocent until proven guilty is in place for a reason
just like the 2 wardens that took his “illegal” traps last week ? I was on the phone for a couple hours and resolved it to where the wardens took the traps back to him and recinded the ticket with no apology for what they did ! I will say officer Day was super good but with what happened to my stuff and the court I’ll use country justice over the courts period
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Jingles is always whining about this that or the other i wouldn't put much stock in what he says myself
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Public forum where people can say ‘mostly’ whatever they want. Not a lot different than a work place with a bunch of people BSing and saying crap to, about others, each other. Well, except everybody can read the crap and make comments and say crap to, about others, each other, well, you get the idea.
Know the guy that had the shootout (died) with Police in Olympia a month or so ago. Multiple tours in Afghanistan, father, husband, fellow worker.
Saw some comments on a posting about it where a LOT of the comments presumed him to be some low life ‘thug’ that ‘deserved what he got’. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Best just shrug off all the comments and move on if you can. Just because they are on here does not make them how the person actually feels, real, or true.
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All traps pulled from that area to avoid any possible conflict I'm to old to put up with this kinda crap and not get angry and ahead, but taking ecaller out to attempt at calling this critter in. Spooky thing is the tracks followed my path for quite aways before stepping off on virgin snow where I could get decent picture no tracks around when moved trap to new location, first trap check after moving there they are.
Fortunately able to move traps to some fenced private property
You did the right thing. Sometimes better to take the high road and pullout then create a confrontation.
It's upsetting and that is not what you are out there for so I hope you have a more enjoyable time where you moved to.
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This thread just shows innocent until proven guilty is so forgone in this country , you have zero proof , if it really was your intention to catch them why wouldn’t camera be within site of trap come on really , and then you say you would make them
Walk back barefoot let’s be real here we have laws for a reason , report it try for your photos or move spots which does suck but trapping and hunting are losing a footing all the time because of this crap
wrong , I caught a guy that did worse to my trap by destroying it and releasing a cat and the state did not prosecute them so if I catch someone messing with my traps they’ll be lucky to be able to walk out on 2 legs . Absolutely no difference then someone stealing or messing with your stuff on your property. The reason our foothold of hunting and trapping are disappearing is because of people that are cowards and not standing up to people ! 100 years ago thieves got hung or shot or the very least the crap beat outta them
If it’s WOKE it’s BROKE
I think the lady in the picture needs the benefit of the doubt and I’m not sure her pictures should have been posted without actual evidence she was messing with traps. Other than that I agree with jakeland. hunters and trappers need to stand up for themselves. I think an old fashioned but whooping is probably what’s missing in modern society. If you’re legally trapping and someone’s screwing with your stuff? I don’t think anyone should beat up the old lady 😂 but I can’t disagree with Lakelands solution in certain circumstances either. The world was a better place when liberal hippies knew they would get there butt kicked for stuff like that 😂
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This thread just shows innocent until proven guilty is so forgone in this country , you have zero proof , if it really was your intention to catch them why wouldn’t camera be within site of trap come on really , and then you say you would make them
Walk back barefoot let’s be real here we have laws for a reason , report it try for your photos or move spots which does suck but trapping and hunting are losing a footing all the time because of this crap
This will be my final poston this subject just had to clear this up for millerwheeler as apparently it was not evident enough for some that the camera was on site of the trap, the trap was located where indicated with the circle, IMO can't get much more on site
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She is either really stupid or up to no good. This is my final opinion on this one. :twocents:
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This thread just shows innocent until proven guilty is so forgone in this country , you have zero proof , if it really was your intention to catch them why wouldn’t camera be within site of trap come on really , and then you say you would make them
Walk back barefoot let’s be real here we have laws for a reason , report it try for your photos or move spots which does suck but trapping and hunting are losing a footing all the time because of this crap
Hunting and trapping are losing footing because the majority of our community have somehow been trained to appease anti hunters. I don’t disagree with you on not breaking laws personally to defend our rights, but we do need to fight back you can’t give enough to make an anti happy. For some unknown reason they hate our lifestyle and won’t be happy until hunting and trapping are completely gone. We need to fight back and try to keep it legal if possible. This whole idea of running and hiding to make some liberal happy is not working. I’m proud of hunting and trapping and I do it legally so I won’t give an inch to try and make bunny huggers happy. We can’t give enough to make them happy short of getting rid of all hunting and trapping.
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You realize the traps had not been messed with the time he has this blue hair on camera ya? Jingles said so.
I think if she were the culprit she could not have walked by without messing with them if she were an anti
An anti would do something each and every time.
There is a possibility she called the game warden, who responded, found the koro traps, removed them, gave them back, and subsequently warned the woman that messing with the traps would get her in trouble...but thats a WAG
But that wouldn't stop her from walking the trail everyday...
In any case there's too much traffic and headaches on that line. Try to hide your entrance and exits to the line better, don't start right from a parking area, or recreational parking lot, but walk up the highway a bit and duck in over a snowbank under bushy trees.
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It's always a problem when trapping in the snow. Even people that have no malicious intent will follow a trail out of curiosity.
It's hard to make a connection from a picture of someone walking the trail without actual footage of the traps being molested.
It's galling but best to just move on. Jingles made the right move.
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You realize the traps had not been messed with the time he has this blue hair on camera ya? Jingles said so.
I think if she were the culprit she could not have walked by without messing with them if she were an anti
An anti would do something each and every time.
There is a possibility she called the game warden, who responded, found the koro traps, removed them, gave them back, and subsequently warned the woman that messing with the traps would get her in trouble...but thats a WAG
But that wouldn't stop her from walking the trail everyday...
In any case there's too much traffic and headaches on that line. Try to hide your entrance and exits to the line better, don't start right from a parking area, or recreational parking lot, but walk up the highway a bit and duck in over a snowbank under bushy trees.
:tup: I already stated her pictures shouldn’t have been posted since she didn’t mess with the traps. I also agree with others in this situation I would just move my traps as there is too much human activity and not worth it. We have a responsibility to be careful where and how we set certain traps to avoid giving the trapping community a black eye. I do that when trapping. My other statement applies to how we react as hunters and trappers when we are responsibly hunting and trapping and bunny huggers interfere. I don’t believe cowering down to them and there demands accomplished anything for us. We need to tell them to shove it we are losing footing because we constantly give in a little here and there to make them happy. It’s not working and they are never happy. I think jingles was smart to move his traps in this situation and I would have done the same. Other situations I agree with jakeland s solution
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If the ‘only’ footprints were the ‘setter’ and a random person suddenly showing up in the same location directly after he set them, where there were no other footprints before hand, I would not classify it as a high foot traffic area that should not have traps in it.
And why not post them? It seems the person (if it is the same one) is intent on messing up the trapping opportunities, or perhaps messing with the traps as well. Someone may know the person from other encounters and be able to alert F&W.
Unless this is not the same person from the other trap line?
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Now have video of the woman and her friend in the previous picture spraying something on trap on 3 different occasions
Will see if judicial system does anything with video evidence, if not country justice might prevail
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Now have video of the woman and her friend in the previous picture spraying something on trap on 3 different occasions
Will see if judicial system does anything with video evidence, if not country justice might prevail
Yup, WDFW is your next move
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Now have video of the woman and her friend in the previous picture spraying something on trap on 3 different occasions
Will see if judicial system does anything with video evidence, if not country justice might prevail
Is there any pattern in time or day that they come? If the judicial system angle doesn't work, maybe leave a message on their car.
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Have talked to them in the past about it being a trap line not a snowshoe or ski trail also have vehicle license number on the day I talked to them
No idea about regular time other than after I have checked my line, do know bear spray 43.00 per can, skunk essence 60.00 per ounce, wasp and hornet spray 4.59 per can and shoots 27 feet a small rock on the trigger of the can and a board that falls on the rock on the trigger that falls when trip wire (6 pound mono fishing line buried just under the snow) moved would sure cover them.
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Now have video of the woman and her friend in the previous picture spraying something on trap on 3 different occasions
Will see if judicial system does anything with video evidence, if not country justice might prevail
Well, that sucks. Eliminates them 'not messing with them' at least. Now you know. Paintball grenade is what I saw in one video a guy used for someone trespassing after being talked to about it.
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Did they follow you to your new spot?
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Yes followed to new trap locations. WDFW has copies of videos, now just have to sit back and see what happens
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Sorry to hear this.
That has to be frustrating beyond words.
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Wow. Hood luck
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I’d post it on valley bulletin
And make wanted for vandalism flyers and post them at the red apple and hanks
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Gonna see what happens as I've turned the videos over to WDFW. If nothing then country Justice kicks in and may God have mercy on their soles cuze the entire North Central Washington will know, Thinking Wenatchee World and Omak Chronicle, yea it'll cost me, along with asking for help identifying on the Spokane TV news by sending them the video.
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I will be following Jingles. Saw sides chosen early, but you stuck to your thoughts. IN the end you were right, some dop *censored* messing with your gear. Lets hope the authorities do what they should, if they don't, and they don't stop,... well, my money is on the "Doc". Keep your powder dry and give them hell.
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As much as I’d love to see pics of the “country justice” being administered, I’d suggest you keep it quiet. No need to bring trouble on yourself. The 3rd “S” in the 3 step program is for “shut up”. Good luck.
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Separate from the criminal aspect I suggest you contact an attorney and get the civil side going to recover your costs and damages.
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I for one hope like hell you can find a way to make her pay. People like these need to learn a lesson and it involves suffering the consequences, something all these politically/socially correct people here dont understand. I get it and support it. :twocents:
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I've just read the last page. Regardless of whats on the other pages, looks to me Jingles like you had better start learning some woodsman skills and learn how to ooperate a trapline without leaving a trail to your sets. It boggles my mind when I see nimrods setting gear along access trails/roads used by other user groups. Use the topography to your addvantage to get away from the public. Draw your target animal to your location away from others and their dogs. This is on you, Jingles, to think about your system this summer, and come up with a new plan to minimalize the chance of the public seeing your gear. Or an animal in your trap. Before you give all of us a bad image, bad press.
I trap through your country, have for years. You don't even know I'm around.
Better luck to you next year.
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I don’t really know much about him And obviously you don’t either, but if I remember right in reading a lot of jingles posts I believe he’s got pretty bad knees. Just sounds like a guy still trying to do what he loves but he’s not quite able to get as far back as he used to. I wouldn’t go as far as to say he brought it on himself, because you should be able to assume people aren’t complete pieces of crap and will leave things alone that aren’t theirs, But unfortunately that is not the case anymore. Hopefully he can find a trap line a little less traveled and still not too far back that he is able to get out and do what he loves to do.
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I've just read the last page. Regardless of whats on the other pages, looks to me Jingles like you had better start learning some woodsman skills and learn how to ooperate a trapline without leaving a trail to your sets. It boggles my mind when I see nimrods setting gear along access trails/roads used by other user groups. Use the topography to your addvantage to get away from the public. Draw your target animal to your location away from others and their dogs. This is on you, Jingles, to think about your system this summer, and come up with a new plan to minimalize the chance of the public seeing your gear. Or an animal in your trap. Before you give all of us a bad image, bad press.
I trap through your country, have for years. You don't even know I'm around.
Better luck to you next year.
Not sure how to respond to this.....other than saying, I 100% don't agree with you. Using your logic...hunters shouldn't access the mountains via roads that other user groups use. Hunters shouldn't use trails that other non hunters use to access private land. Maybe Hunters shouldn't hunt for fear of offending the bunny huggers. When you harvest an animal, you shouldn't hang it at your camp or post pics at the local shop that supports hunters.....you know a bunny hugger should stop in there and be offended as well.
JUST MAYBE THE AZZHAT THAT VIOLATES THE LAW SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND THE TRAPPER SHOULDN'T BARE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR LEGALLY SETTING A TRAP LINE IN A LEGAL AREA.
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I've just read the last page. Regardless of whats on the other pages, looks to me Jingles like you had better start learning some woodsman skills and learn how to ooperate a trapline without leaving a trail to your sets. It boggles my mind when I see nimrods setting gear along access trails/roads used by other user groups. Use the topography to your addvantage to get away from the public. Draw your target animal to your location away from others and their dogs. This is on you, Jingles, to think about your system this summer, and come up with a new plan to minimalize the chance of the public seeing your gear. Or an animal in your trap. Before you give all of us a bad image, bad press.
I trap through your country, have for years. You don't even know I'm around.
Better luck to you next year.
You must be really good.
I mean not even leaving snowshoe tracks is a serious skill.
Do you just swing through the trees?
Jingles, you better start working on your upper body strength and grip strength.
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swing through trees :chuckle:
You park, then walk down the road a ways, then duck off the road under some trees where there is no place to park. Preferably down an embankment.
If you're super sneaky take a shovel and dress up your tracks over the snow plow berm where you stepped off the road.
You take time to dress up your traps so animals don't get cage shy, it's the same thing with your trail in.
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Don't forget that you are hiding the tracks of the sled you are dragging the cage trap on. along with the bait and all the tools you need to do your first set. Then when the people who are messing with your traps are "locals" and they know your vehicle. So any place they see it after the first time they find a trap they will go investigate. That is what he ran into. He was on WDFW land. The individuals had a agenda to give him grief.
Back in the 80's I was hunting the national rec trail outside St. Regis there were activists who would show up at the trail heads and follow you up the trails banging on pots and pans. The forest service would warn you about them.
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swing through trees :chuckle:
You park, then walk down the road a ways, then duck off the road under some trees where there is no place to park. Preferably down an embankment.
If you're super sneaky take a shovel and dress up your tracks over the snow plow berm where you stepped off the road.
You take time to dress up your traps so animals don't get cage shy, it's the same thing with your trail in.
Not me.
I'm swinging through the trees.
My bushcraft juju is stronger than yours...... I just typed while sitting on the couch. :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Maybe he can fly.
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Maybe he can fly.
Flying *cheaply* is what $150/hr now? better be getting some serious fur :chuckle: :chuckle:
There's a youtuber doing flying trapping, fun to watch a couple of episodes, but he's a pleasure flyer first, trapper a distant second!
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I will say I wondered a little about setting traps by what seemed to be a ‘walking trail’. Being able to ‘legally’ do something and ‘should I’ is the difference.
It would probably only take one of Karen’s little critters getting into a trap to shut the entire area down.
Sort of like dragging a bloody carcass out on display. You have to remember most people these days think meat comes from plastic containers. They are ‘horrified’ by blood and actual death. Well, unless it is a wolf that does it.
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For those that can not comprehend or are able to understand what was posted previously. The traps were NOT set on or even near a walking trail, the trap line was set in an area where the only trail was what I made when I broke trail through 3 feet of virgin unblemished snow. Yes after checking the traps everyday as required by the trapping regulations the trail probably did look and was well used by myself, and I challenge the most woodwise woodsman on this forum or anywhere else to hide your tracks in 3 feet of snow. Unless you are Christ Almighty and are able to walk on water or hover it ain't gonna happen I don't care who you are or how great you think you are.
The case has been turned over to the County Prosecutor and charges are violating RCW 77.15.210 Interferring with legal taking of fish and wildlife, Gross Misdemeanor possible sentencing is up to 364 days in Jail and/or up to $5000.00 fine.
For those that think or even suggest I hide my trail I invite you over next winter to give a demonstration your skills at hiding a trail in 3 feet of powder snow.
Not to be mean but if you can't best thing for you to do is take some reading comprehension classes but feel free to come show me how to hide tracks in crotch deep powder snow
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Well now you have thrown down the challenge glove....
Be interesting to see who will pick it up.
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I ain't driving that far :chuckle:
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The case has been turned over to the County Prosecutor and charges are violating RCW 77.15.210 Interferring with legal taking of fish and wildlife, Gross Misdemeanor possible sentencing is up to 364 days in Jail and/or up to $5000.00 fine.
I'd be very interested in updates on this Jingles, and crossing my fingers it's not tossed out! :tup:
"decline to prosecute"
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The case has been turned over to the County Prosecutor and charges are violating RCW 77.15.210 Interferring with legal taking of fish and wildlife, Gross Misdemeanor possible sentencing is up to 364 days in Jail and/or up to $5000.00 fine.
I'd be very interested in updates on this Jingles, and crossing my fingers it's not tossed out! :tup:
"decline to prosecute"
Have considered that possibility as well and have decided that with the videos I gave to WDFW Enforcement it is a Slam Dunk guilty and if Prosecutor refuses to prosecute I'll go to County Commissioners or where ever I need to have Prosecutor removed from office for refusing to do the job he was hired to do.
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Good :tup:
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I am glad you caught them on camera :tup: Hopefully they do the right thing and prosecute-stay after it!!!
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I ain't driving that far :chuckle:
I'm always up to learn something new. I would drive over just watch.
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When there is snow on the ground all trapping is easy to see if you know what to look for.
You are at the mercy of those who know trapping activities are happening in your area.
Cameras are your only security.
If WDFW, vthe legal system won't prosecute them, two can play the game.
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When there is snow on the ground all trapping is easy to see if you know what to look for.
You are at the mercy of those who know trapping activities are happening in your area.
Cameras are your only security.
If WDFW, vthe legal system won't prosecute them, two can play the game.
Yes there is and all within the law
RCW 77.15.065
Authority of attorney general if prosecuting attorney defaults.
If the prosecuting attorney of the county in which a violation of this title or rule of the department occurs fails to file an information against the alleged violator, the attorney general upon request of the commission may file an information in the superior court of the county and prosecute the case in place of the prosecuting attorney. The commission may request prosecution by the attorney general if thirty days have passed since the commission informed the county prosecuting attorney of the alleged violation.
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Jingles, what is the latest in the conflict with the poor example of a little gray haired old lady. She gives all of us a bad name instead of "Silver haired, grandmotherly senior citizen."
What happened?
Diane
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Unfortunately Jingles is no longer able to participate in the forum. He is able to view the forum as a guest but not log in and post. :sry: