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Title: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: rosscrazyelk on February 18, 2022, 07:10:32 AM
I won a 6.5 creedmore. 
I am going to use this gun for my girls.
With the ammo situation
 I am wondering what's everyone's experience with
Aquila, sellierand? Or precision one.
Anyone ever hear of these rounds ? And experience  with them?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Tbar on February 18, 2022, 07:13:22 AM
Hornaday seems to be intermittently available. I have two and they both shoot well with the 143eldx. It has been stocked at Skagit the last couple of times in there.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on February 18, 2022, 07:15:17 AM
I won a 6.5 creedmore. 
I am going to use this gun for my girls.
With the ammo situation
 I am wondering what's everyone's experience with
Aquila, sellierand? Or precision one.
Anyone ever hear of these rounds ? And experience  with them?
Thanks in advance

I asked my local shop about these and the response I got was “sellierand has been around a long time but they’re an import company, with the ammo shortage a lot of places had to outsource to get ammo on the shelf and they were available”. I have 2 boxes in my safe that I have yet to send down my new rifle. Pretty much bought them for break in and for the brass so I can start load developments.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: johnbmyersii on February 18, 2022, 07:18:48 AM
If you're planning to do any sort of large animal hunting, get the hornady precision hunter 143ELD-X. That round is the best on the market for that caliber, I have killed many animals with it and so have friends and family.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: jrebel on February 18, 2022, 07:26:31 AM
PM'd you
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Widgeondeke on February 18, 2022, 07:31:44 AM
I have only ever used Aquila except for .22 rounds when plinking and never shot the other two listed  :dunno:


I can say we shoot Nosler 120gr ballistic tip & 142gr Accubonds and like some others they've gone up about 50% in price the last 1.5 years.
Both killed what they were shot at(whitetail & speed goats)  :tup:

Good luck and hopefully the girls enjoy shooting the new rifle once you select an ammo
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: buckfvr on February 18, 2022, 09:39:51 AM
All though I reload for certain rifles, I do shoot one of my 6.5cm's with factory ammo because it is pure and simply for hunting.  I shot many brands of supposedly the best stuff out there in order to get an honest comparison for myself and hands down, the clear winner is/was Sierra Game Changer 130gr tipped game kings.  The rifle has a lightweight sporter barrel and as a hunting rifle my emphasis is on first two shots hitting the same spot.  They do, and more times than not, they are touching/same hole even at 200 yards.

The same has proven itself true in a couple of other people's rifles in different calibers.

I like the 130's because they come close to .270 130gr performance, not quite but close enough, and I shot .270 for a long time and never had a bad experience.

It's hard to find the Sierra Game Changers, but you can at times find them on ammobuy with prices varying wildly (15$ a box difference) and even though I have a few boxes, I am going to get more once I find the deal I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: fowl smacker on February 18, 2022, 09:59:45 AM
If you're planning to do any sort of large animal hunting, get the hornady precision hunter 143ELD-X. That round is the best on the market for that caliber, I have killed many animals with it and so have friends and family.
I agree.  These rounds are becoming more available and are an excellent choice for hunting.  Killed several deer with it including my Idaho buck at 574 yards this last yr.  It's a great performing bullet.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Stevewazfishing on February 18, 2022, 10:06:52 AM
If you're planning to do any sort of large animal hunting, get the hornady precision hunter 143ELD-X. That round is the best on the market for that caliber, I have killed many animals with it and so have friends and family.

I agree with that bullet being an excellent choice. I’ve shot a good amount of deer and bear with mine out to just over 300 yds and couldn’t b happier with the performance. Also a very accurate bullet.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on February 18, 2022, 11:50:12 AM
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Thought this was a very interesting video for the eld-x guys.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: fowl smacker on February 18, 2022, 12:21:43 PM
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Thought this was a very interesting video for the eld-x guys.
That was interesting.   I've never shot an animal with a match bullet, so I can't compare retained weight from them, however the last 3 143gr eldx bullets I've been able to recover from deer weighed 142.1(this was from whitetail at 574 yds), 139.7, and 138.9 (both around 200 yard shots on deer).  I was surprised they lost that much weight on their ballistic gel test, maybe it was because they were so close.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 18, 2022, 12:22:46 PM
Hornady Precision Hunter 143 gr ELD-x.  Hands down.  ...now you've just gotta find some...
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: johnbmyersii on February 18, 2022, 01:27:15 PM
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Thought this was a very interesting video for the eld-x guys.
That was interesting.   I've never shot an animal with a match bullet, so I can't compare retained weight from them, however the last 3 143gr eldx bullets I've been able to recover from deer weighed 142.1(this was from whitetail at 574 yds), 139.7, and 138.9 (both around 200 yard shots on deer).  I was surprised they lost that much weight on their ballistic gel test, maybe it was because they were so close.

Definitely that...they like a little bit of range before they mushroom like theyre supposed to, but that being said my deer this year went thru-and-thru at 350 yards. Left a hell of an exit hole too.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on February 18, 2022, 02:57:40 PM
[/youtube]

Thought this was a very interesting video for the eld-x guys.
That was interesting.   I've never shot an animal with a match bullet, so I can't compare retained weight from them, however the last 3 143gr eldx bullets I've been able to recover from deer weighed 142.1(this was from whitetail at 574 yds), 139.7, and 138.9 (both around 200 yard shots on deer).  I was surprised they lost that much weight on their ballistic gel test, maybe it was because they were so close.

Most likely, my assumption is also that the gel is more dense then flesh and muscle reducing the bullet mass. Also as you said being closer mean more velocity than a shot at distance. A cad wreck at 100mph is a lot more damaging than 20mph.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: buckfvr on February 18, 2022, 03:39:08 PM
Hornady explains it all quite clearly on their web page.   :tup:
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: h20hunter on February 18, 2022, 03:45:52 PM
In one day of meat making two cow elk and a meat buff were shot with the  143 eldx....all one shot devastating internal damage kills.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Sneaky on February 18, 2022, 06:20:01 PM
More to the Op's question, there is plenty of 6.5 ammo around in brands that I've actually heard of both in store and online. None of it is cheap but I'd feel more comfortable with a more established brand.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Wet Chicken on February 18, 2022, 07:20:16 PM
In one day of meat making two cow elk and a meat buff were shot with the  143 eldx....all one shot devastating internal damage kills.

Was there and exit wound?
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: h20hunter on February 18, 2022, 07:34:42 PM
In one day of meat making two cow elk and a meat buff were shot with the  143 eldx....all one shot devastating internal damage kills.

Was there and exit wound?

Cow elk yes, dbl lung, x2
Meat buff no, heart shot, heart pulped, bullet not recovered internally.

I'll see if i can find a heart pic.....
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: h20hunter on February 18, 2022, 07:35:57 PM
Here you go.....buff heart, 70ish yards.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: huntnphool on February 18, 2022, 07:41:05 PM
Hornady Precision Hunter 143 gr ELD-x.  Hands down.  ...now you've just gotta find some...

 Recently picked up 200 at Midway :dunno:
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 22, 2022, 11:48:19 AM
Hornady Precision Hunter 143 gr ELD-x.  Hands down.  ...now you've just gotta find some...

 Recently picked up 200 at Midway :dunno:

You must have caught the resupply train just right.  Out of Stock this morning.  No backorder  :'(
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: savagehunter on February 22, 2022, 09:05:12 PM
I believe skagit arms has a bunch 49.99 a box
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Sneaky on March 19, 2022, 08:52:16 AM
https://www.brownells.com/ammunition/rifle-ammo/precision-hunter-ammo-6-5mm-creedmoor-143gr-eld-x-prod82563.aspx


In case anyone else has been looking. Use code TAG for 15 off 150.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Ridgerunner on March 19, 2022, 09:06:43 AM
Awesome just ordered some.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: CJ1962 on March 19, 2022, 09:16:06 AM
Thanks, just ordered some as well.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: bigdub257 on March 19, 2022, 09:31:23 AM
Picked some up also.  Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Doublelunger on March 19, 2022, 09:52:22 AM
143 eldx fly great. Not the best killing bullet IMO but get it done. Berger 140 vld's would be at the top of my list as well.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Sneaky on March 19, 2022, 11:06:04 AM
143 eldx fly great. Not the best killing bullet IMO but get it done. Berger 140 vld's would be at the top of my list as well.

Any experience with the berger EOL 156gr in 6.5?
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Doublelunger on March 19, 2022, 12:13:12 PM
143 eldx fly great. Not the best killing bullet IMO but get it done. Berger 140 vld's would be at the top of my list as well.

Any experience with the berger EOL 156gr in 6.5?

Sorry. No experience with that bullet.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: MtnMuley on March 19, 2022, 12:18:10 PM
143 eldx fly great. Not the best killing bullet IMO but get it done. Berger 140 vld's would be at the top of my list as well.

 :yeah: The Berger 140 Hunting VLD's are at the top of my lost for the 6.5 Creedmoor.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: MtnMuley on March 19, 2022, 12:20:06 PM
143 eldx fly great. Not the best killing bullet IMO but get it done. Berger 140 vld's would be at the top of my list as well.

Any experience with the berger EOL 156gr in 6.5?

Great in the PRC, but unsure about the Creedmoors since by time they came out, the PRC was rocking and rolling.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Doublelunger on March 19, 2022, 12:39:32 PM
My hunting partner loves the 140 vlds out of his creedmoor. His old man's 6.5x284 loves the 156's. I think the 156 may be just a little too much for the regular creedoor. :dunno:
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Sneaky on March 19, 2022, 12:51:10 PM
My hunting partner loves the 140 vlds out of his creedmoor. His old man's 6.5x284 loves the 156's. I think the 156 may be just a little too much for the regular creedoor. :dunno:

Just have to find out what velocity range is best for that particular bullets performance. Would probably not get the same effective distance out of the creedmoor vs. the higher velocity cartridges. I don't handload so I bought a variety of different factory offerings to try. Federal 130 TA, barnes 130 TSX, Hornady ELDX 143, Berger 156 EOL, Hornady 129 SST. Should be fun to see what the rifle likes best.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 19, 2022, 04:01:26 PM
We shot a bunch of critters with the 156's out of my 6.5x284 and it did very well (same as every berger). Coasting at an easy MV of 2850.

For fun I stuffed some 156's through my creedmoor. Its a VERY slow barrel. I got some heavy bolt lift at 2700fps. Backed it back to 2650 and it shot great. I wouldn't hesitate for a second to use them in a creedmoor....if you're in to such things :chuckle:
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: b23 on March 19, 2022, 05:49:36 PM
I wouldn't hesitate for a second to use them in a creedmoor....if you're in to such things :chuckle:

 :stirthepot: 

Troublemaker  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on March 19, 2022, 07:30:10 PM
https://www.eurooptic.com/berger-65mm-140gr-match-vld-hunting-100-per-box.aspx

In stock now. 140 Berger vld
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 19, 2022, 07:31:01 PM
Creedmoor and berger what a :puke: combination 

Sorry had to do it :chuckle:
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: Sneaky on March 19, 2022, 08:48:46 PM
I would think in a 6.5 you would want a bullet that would stay together as much as possible because you're starting out on the low end of bullet weight. I don't have any actual experience shooting bergers though so I figured I'd give them a try and see for myself. If I can get them to shoot in my rifle I am very interested in the concept behind the federal terminal ascent bullet.
Title: Re: Ammo question for 6.5 creed
Post by: zwickeyman on March 20, 2022, 08:38:04 AM
I would think in a 6.5 you would want a bullet that would stay together as much as possible because you're starting out on the low end of bullet weight. I don't have any actual experience shooting bergers though so I figured I'd give them a try and see for myself. If I can get them to shoot in my rifle I am very interested in the concept behind the federal terminal ascent bullet.

The reason a lot of guys like Bergers and ELDX and other cup and core bullets is because the CM is low veloity

The Terminal Ascent and Trophy Bonded tip are a tough bullet and are better served with higher velocity


I would recomend the Partition. Good at high and low veloities
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