Post by: Norman89 on March 05, 2022, 06:46:45 AM
Post by: Cougartail on March 05, 2022, 08:28:00 AM
Post by: Norman89 on March 05, 2022, 08:37:01 AM
Your poll doesn't seem to be working?fixed it thank you
Post by: Cougartail on March 05, 2022, 08:38:41 AM
Post by: Nmesub on March 05, 2022, 09:19:48 AM
Post by: Norman89 on March 05, 2022, 09:26:32 AM
The mag ban doesn't outlaw possession and the 80% allows them built before a certain date so why would you turn them in?how do you prove it was built before that date? How would any leo being a prick prove it was built after that date? Trying to skate by the rules doesn't work in this state. From my reading and listen to the debate last night it is a outright ban on possession of any mag over 10rounds
Post by: bigtex on March 05, 2022, 09:31:32 AM
It's not a ban on the possession of mags over 10 rounds, that was the original bill. The bill that passed the senate and house banned the sale or import of mags over 10 rounds, not the simple possession.The mag ban doesn't outlaw possession and the 80% allows them built before a certain date so why would you turn them in?how do you prove it was built before that date? How would any leo being a prick prove it was built after that date? Trying to skate by the rules doesn't work in this state. From my reading and listen to the debate last night it is a outright ban on possession of any mag over 10rounds
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Post by: hughjorgan on March 05, 2022, 09:33:07 AM
Post by: Norman89 on March 05, 2022, 09:33:56 AM
Post by: bigtex on March 05, 2022, 09:35:19 AM
Can you find that exact wording @bigtex?https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2021-22/Pdf/Bills/Senate%20Bills/5078-S.E.pdf?q=20220305093241
Read Section 3
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Post by: Bob33 on March 05, 2022, 09:35:47 AM
The law does not ban possession.The mag ban doesn't outlaw possession and the 80% allows them built before a certain date so why would you turn them in?how do you prove it was built before that date? How would any leo being a prick prove it was built after that date? Trying to skate by the rules doesn't work in this state. From my reading and listen to the debate last night it is a outright ban on possession of any mag over 10rounds
(1) No person in this state may manufacture, import, distribute, sell, or offer for sale any large capacity magazine, except as authorized in this section.
Post by: Norman89 on March 05, 2022, 09:44:48 AM
Post by: Nmesub on March 05, 2022, 09:58:22 AM
Doesn't matter what their argument was in the debate. What matters is stated in the bill. Show me where possession is banned.The mag ban doesn't outlaw possession and the 80% allows them built before a certain date so why would you turn them in?how do you prove it was built before that date? How would any leo being a prick prove it was built after that date? Trying to skate by the rules doesn't work in this state. From my reading and listen to the debate last night it is a outright ban on possession of any mag over 10rounds
Post by: fishngamereaper on March 05, 2022, 09:59:57 AM
Finding 10 round mags for certain platforms is difficult...so this is basically going to affect new gun purchases...
Post by: Norman89 on March 05, 2022, 10:01:28 AM
that's the problem, I don't see anywhere that says it bans possession. Which leaves it vague and open ended for interpretation of the law enforcement, which traditionally in this state leads to nothing but trouble and legal feesDoesn't matter what their argument was in the debate. What matters is stated in the bill. Show me where possession is banned.The mag ban doesn't outlaw possession and the 80% allows them built before a certain date so why would you turn them in?how do you prove it was built before that date? How would any leo being a prick prove it was built after that date? Trying to skate by the rules doesn't work in this state. From my reading and listen to the debate last night it is a outright ban on possession of any mag over 10rounds
Post by: Norman89 on March 05, 2022, 10:02:34 AM
The bigger picture is a lot of new semi auto guns come from the factory with standard cap mags that exceed 10 rounds...back door gun control at its finest. I can't find 10 rd mags for the wife's pistol anywhere, I don't know if they make them
Finding 10 round mags for certain platforms is difficult...so this is basically going to affect new gun purchases...
Post by: Nmesub on March 05, 2022, 10:02:52 AM
15 large capacity magazine when departing from, and returning to,
16 Washington state, so long as the individual is returning to
17 Washington in possession of the same large capacity magazine the
18 individual transported out of state.
Post by: wannabhntr on March 05, 2022, 10:03:40 AM
https://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/ag-ferguson-historic-house-vote-legislature-bans-sale-high-capacity-magazines
Post by: Norman89 on March 05, 2022, 10:07:49 AM
Post by: bigtex on March 05, 2022, 10:15:13 AM
I couldn't give a damn about any lie that comes out of Ferguson's mouth. I don't see it in the bill. Transportation and possession looks to be cleared up at this point, still don't see "use" of the mags anywhere.
If it doesn't say it's unlawful then it's lawful. As an example there's no law currently that says you can possess, buy or sell them. So as a result then those actions are lawful.
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Post by: Norman89 on March 05, 2022, 10:20:45 AM
that has always been my understanding as well, but I'm not putting it past these guys to sneak something. Calling the vote on the last day at 4:58 for example. That don't have my interest that's for damn sureI couldn't give a damn about any lie that comes out of Ferguson's mouth. I don't see it in the bill. Transportation and possession looks to be cleared up at this point, still don't see "use" of the mags anywhere.
If it doesn't say it's unlawful then it's lawful. As an example there's no law currently that says you can possess, buy or sell them. So as a result then those actions are lawful.
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Post by: bigtex on March 05, 2022, 10:22:48 AM
The bill has already been passed. They can't change anything now. Only thing Inslee can do is sign it or not sign it.that has always been my understanding as well, but I'm not putting it past these guys to sneak something. Calling the vote on the last day at 4:58 for example. That don't have my interest that's for damn sureI couldn't give a damn about any lie that comes out of Ferguson's mouth. I don't see it in the bill. Transportation and possession looks to be cleared up at this point, still don't see "use" of the mags anywhere.
If it doesn't say it's unlawful then it's lawful. As an example there's no law currently that says you can possess, buy or sell them. So as a result then those actions are lawful.
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Post by: Lucky1 on March 05, 2022, 12:34:55 PM
They are incrementally dismantling the second amendment. This is just another step. They will add in the possession and restricted use of the magazines next session. Any of you guns owners who don’t educate yourselves and vote for conservatives are a big part of the problem. Get off your asses and get involved!The bigger picture is a lot of new semi auto guns come from the factory with standard cap mags that exceed 10 rounds...back door gun control at its finest. I can't find 10 rd mags for the wife's pistol anywhere, I don't know if they make them
Finding 10 round mags for certain platforms is difficult...so this is basically going to affect new gun purchases...
Post by: SuperX on March 05, 2022, 12:41:50 PM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on March 05, 2022, 12:59:51 PM
Post by: bigtex on March 05, 2022, 02:34:01 PM
When does this take affect?July 1, 2022
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Post by: pianoman9701 on March 05, 2022, 02:48:35 PM
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Post by: Russ McDonald on March 05, 2022, 03:16:44 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/big-victory-for-supporters-of-stricter-gun-laws-wa-legislature-approves-new-ammunition-limits/%3famp=1Has anyone read the newest revision. It says no more than 12 rounds. Sucks and a bunch of crap none the less. Bill isn't signed yet and we can still own them. Plenty of them being bought up.
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Post by: buckfvr on March 05, 2022, 03:24:29 PM
It's disgusting how corrupt our AG and majority of legislators are.
Treasonous bunch of chicken s**t morons.
Post by: KFhunter on March 05, 2022, 03:25:45 PM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on March 05, 2022, 03:27:40 PM
I hope those who voted for it realize they just became the greatest hi-cap magazine salesmen in state history.
Post by: bigtex on March 05, 2022, 03:55:54 PM
I lost all my magazines in a tragic boating mishapThe bill doesn't prohibit possession.
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Post by: bigtex on March 05, 2022, 04:00:16 PM
No it doesn't. The bill wasn't revised in the house.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/big-victory-for-supporters-of-stricter-gun-laws-wa-legislature-approves-new-ammunition-limits/%3famp=1Has anyone read the newest revision. It says no more than 12 rounds. Sucks and a bunch of crap none the less. Bill isn't signed yet and we can still own them. Plenty of them being bought up.
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Post by: MADMAX on March 05, 2022, 04:01:13 PM
I lost all my magazines in a tragic boating mishapThe bill doesn't prohibit possession.
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Post by: Russ McDonald on March 05, 2022, 04:04:56 PM
I went through yhe bill and it says 12 rounds or more not 10.No it doesn't. The bill wasn't revised in the house.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/big-victory-for-supporters-of-stricter-gun-laws-wa-legislature-approves-new-ammunition-limits/%3famp=1Has anyone read the newest revision. It says no more than 12 rounds. Sucks and a bunch of crap none the less. Bill isn't signed yet and we can still own them. Plenty of them being bought up.
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Post by: Dan-o on March 05, 2022, 04:22:00 PM
Or anyone else.
Am I correct in understanding that when California did this, they initially didn't ban ownership either. But a couple years later came back and criminalized ownership.
Is that correct?
Post by: bigtex on March 05, 2022, 04:22:15 PM
According to the bill: "Large capacity magazine" means an ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition"I went through yhe bill and it says 12 rounds or more not 10.No it doesn't. The bill wasn't revised in the house.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/big-victory-for-supporters-of-stricter-gun-laws-wa-legislature-approves-new-ammunition-limits/%3famp=1Has anyone read the newest revision. It says no more than 12 rounds. Sucks and a bunch of crap none the less. Bill isn't signed yet and we can still own them. Plenty of them being bought up.
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Post by: Igor on March 05, 2022, 04:38:51 PM
According to the bill: "Large capacity magazine" means an ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition"I went through yhe bill and it says 12 rounds or more not 10.No it doesn't. The bill wasn't revised in the house.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/big-victory-for-supporters-of-stricter-gun-laws-wa-legislature-approves-new-ammunition-limits/%3famp=1Has anyone read the newest revision. It says no more than 12 rounds. Sucks and a bunch of crap none the less. Bill isn't signed yet and we can still own them. Plenty of them being bought up.
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I haven't read the bill, but why is this so difficult ?
Post by: buckfvr on March 05, 2022, 05:00:10 PM
Post by: Russ McDonald on March 05, 2022, 05:09:41 PM
There was another version of the bill that said 12 rounds not 10 so somewhere it was revised. It isn't difficult so bot sure what your talking about Igor. The bill is all BS.According to the bill: "Large capacity magazine" means an ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition"I went through yhe bill and it says 12 rounds or more not 10.No it doesn't. The bill wasn't revised in the house.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/big-victory-for-supporters-of-stricter-gun-laws-wa-legislature-approves-new-ammunition-limits/%3famp=1Has anyone read the newest revision. It says no more than 12 rounds. Sucks and a bunch of crap none the less. Bill isn't signed yet and we can still own them. Plenty of them being bought up.
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Post by: Igor on March 05, 2022, 05:14:11 PM
Why is what so difficult ?
One poster says the bill limits magazines to 10 rounds. Another person says the bill limits magazines to 12 rounds. I have not read the final bill as passed. Is it 10 rounds, or is it 12 rounds ?
Post by: bigtex on March 05, 2022, 05:20:57 PM
10Why is what so difficult ?
One poster says the bill limits magazines to 10 rounds. Another person says the bill limits magazines to 12 rounds. I have not read the final bill as passed. Is it 10 rounds, or is it 12 rounds ?
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Post by: Russ McDonald on March 05, 2022, 05:50:46 PM
Yes that is correct I have read the final version. 10 rounds.10Why is what so difficult ?
One poster says the bill limits magazines to 10 rounds. Another person says the bill limits magazines to 12 rounds. I have not read the final bill as passed. Is it 10 rounds, or is it 12 rounds ?
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Post by: hunter399 on March 05, 2022, 06:30:40 PM
■ Doesn't apply to me for various reasons, so none of the above.Ding ding ding ,winner winner chicken dinner.
Pretty much same here. :chuckle: :chuckle:
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