Post by: hdshot on June 07, 2022, 05:03:07 PM
Post by: b0bbyg on June 07, 2022, 05:08:50 PM
I do hope it keeps the tweekers closer into the metro areas and away from hunting camps and trailheads.
Post by: jrebel on June 07, 2022, 05:09:50 PM
Post by: X-Force on June 07, 2022, 05:10:26 PM
More than “done” at a price per gallon… I’m am wondering how gas guzzling vehicle values are staying so high.
Post by: CarbonHunter on June 07, 2022, 05:18:00 PM
Post by: ThurstonCokid on June 07, 2022, 05:21:00 PM
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Post by: Sandberm on June 07, 2022, 05:27:08 PM
I buy gas on a Pacific Pride gas card, heres my ave price at around the first of every month.
Jan-$3.45
Feb-$3.57
Mar-$3.53
Apr-$4.31
May-$4.22
Jun-$4.61
So...I will spend $2091 more this year to do the same thing as last year.
Post by: Bareback on June 07, 2022, 05:29:11 PM
Post by: MADMAX on June 07, 2022, 05:30:10 PM
We are reducing from 3 vehicles to 2 and only going half as far
Let’s go Brandon
Post by: Caveman123 on June 07, 2022, 05:33:13 PM
Post by: Casey on June 07, 2022, 05:34:01 PM
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Post by: NRA4LIFE on June 07, 2022, 05:34:05 PM
I’ve been looking at ford escape hybrids… might leave the Chevy at home.
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We have an Escape and I can easily sleep in the back. I'm about 5' 9".
Ugh, I'm driving to Eastern MT and then onto Missouri and back. Looking at $1500 in fuel at todays prices.
Post by: Naches Sportsman on June 07, 2022, 05:37:34 PM
$5.10 for 87 when I filled up on Sunday
Post by: Bullkllr on June 07, 2022, 05:41:03 PM
I’m debating about driving my Nissan Maxima to gates to hike. If I drive around weyco then I’ll drive the f150 eco boost and sleep in the truck. Either way it’s going to be a pricy season with multi season tags. Might have to work some overtime this summer
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Not a bad idea. I've been switching to our Corolla whenever I can get away with it. It gets almost 3x the mpg as my truck. Did clam digging several times for around 20$ a round trip, for example.
Post by: teanawayslayer on June 07, 2022, 05:42:14 PM
$6.50 a gallon is my cut off point for driving around in the woods. I’m buying a motorcycle within the next month to help curtail the gas prices. I’m 40 miles from the nearest gas station.5.10 a gallon. Sign me up! That’s not bad at all😂
$5.10 for 87 when I filled up on Sunday
Post by: wadu1 on June 07, 2022, 05:47:57 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on June 07, 2022, 06:06:29 PM
$6.50 a gallon is my cut off point for driving around in the woods. I’m buying a motorcycle within the next month to help curtail the gas prices. I’m 40 miles from the nearest gas station.5.10 a gallon. Sign me up! That’s not bad at all😂
$5.10 for 87 when I filled up on Sunday
The Clearwater Casino is probably right around $5 now. Absolutely terrible!
Post by: jeffro on June 07, 2022, 06:19:05 PM
My e bike is sure working good, and seeing a lot more use lately
Post by: NRA4LIFE on June 07, 2022, 06:19:18 PM
I’m debating about driving my Nissan Maxima to gates to hike. If I drive around weyco then I’ll drive the f150 eco boost and sleep in the truck. Either way it’s going to be a pricy season with multi season tags. Might have to work some overtime this summer
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Not a bad idea. I've been switching to our Corolla whenever I can get away with it. It gets almost 3x the mpg as my truck. Did clam digging several times for around 20$ a round trip, for example.
We never took the truck out to the beach this season, we used the Escape. 32-ish versus 12-ish.
Post by: highcountry_hunter on June 07, 2022, 06:27:06 PM
Post by: brew on June 07, 2022, 06:30:22 PM
It’s $5.99 in colville and at 5.3 mpg’s I can barely afford to even work :bash:dam dude...what are you rolling that gets 5 mpg ?
Post by: Stein on June 07, 2022, 06:31:26 PM
Post by: highcountry_hunter on June 07, 2022, 07:37:09 PM
It’s $5.99 in colville and at 5.3 mpg’s I can barely afford to even work :bash:dam dude...what are you rolling that gets 5 mpg ?
A 94 peterbilt. Log truck life
Post by: NRA4LIFE on June 07, 2022, 08:30:37 PM
Wow, my boat gets 6....
WAHHH. Mine gets 2.5 cruising, if lucky. Gonna be an expensive summer.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 08, 2022, 07:17:13 AM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 08, 2022, 08:57:44 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on June 08, 2022, 09:00:50 AM
I'll eat top ramen for a month...I'm going to put miles on the truck and boat without hesitation.
Post by: Brushbuster on June 08, 2022, 09:05:03 AM
Post by: phildobaggins on June 08, 2022, 09:06:52 AM
This year I'm doing less day hunting and more camping hunts. A few years ago I'd drive from Wenatchee to Kettle Falls in the early AM, hunt all day, go drop my buddy off in Omak, and then drive back to Wenatchee. That would hurt a lot more now, but not sure how bad I'll miss those long days :o
Post by: Sandberm on June 08, 2022, 09:08:56 AM
Can't put a price on sanity.
I'll eat top ramen for a month...I'm going to put miles on the truck and boat without hesitation.
Yep, Ive always allowed myself to drive where ever i wanted when ever I wanted. Being able to drive is freedom to me. It keeps me sane being able to get away if just for a walk in nature.
But I must admit, after getting my latest gas card statement yesterday, that way of living is going to be tested. :(
Post by: Meow on June 08, 2022, 09:09:31 AM
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Post by: Cougartail on June 08, 2022, 11:50:04 AM
12-15$ per gallon I would guess.
You'd go hunting during a civil War? They hit $10 a gallon and those retards in Washington DC will see what a real insurrection looks like. There will be no liberal hearings or liberal media to cover it.
Hungry people get violent and they know exactly who caused their pain!
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 08, 2022, 11:54:41 AM
Yeah, $15/gal would be nuts. I think it will be half that here, maybe up to $8.12-15$ per gallon I would guess.
You'd go hunting during a civil War? They hit $10 a gallon and those retards in Washington DC will see what a real inserection looks like. There will be no liberal hearings or liberal media to cover it.
Hungry people get violent and they know exactly who caused their pain!
The other costs of fuel increases seem to be overlooked (to a degree) for some reason--food prices, delivery costs, plastics, machines, yard work, etc.
Post by: jrebel on June 08, 2022, 12:08:26 PM
50 gallon diesel tank on my truck filled when 3/4 empty is a $250 dollar bill. :bash: :bash:
Post by: Stein on June 08, 2022, 12:12:09 PM
Notice how neither party is saying much to them about it..
Post by: Skillet on June 08, 2022, 12:35:33 PM
The prediction is crude oil will hit $140 / barrel by August. That's another 20% which will bring the average cost per gallon to of gas to $6 and diesel $7.50. I truly believe those to be conservative estimates and think that could double with one or two major events. Hurricane that takes out one major refinery, Russia or N. Korea to launch a nuke, etc.....
50 gallon diesel tank on my truck filled when 3/4 empty is a $250 dollar bill. :bash: :bash:
:yeah:
It is a precarious market, and won't take much to push it up another notch.
I'll see your truck's tank and raise you another 1350 gallons of boat fuel tankage though :chuckle: Just filled 'er up for $4.76 and am glad I did it now. There is real talk of $6+ diesel up here by the end of the summer. The place I order my fuel from dollar-cost-averages the fuel in their tanks with every barge delivery, so we're just a little behind on the price increases right now, but will be paying higher than everybody else here soon.
Oil changes getting painful, too - a 55 gallon barrel of oil is over $1k now as well. :yike:
Post by: Scvette on June 08, 2022, 12:56:50 PM
The prediction is crude oil will hit $140 / barrel by August. That's another 20% which will bring the average cost per gallon to of gas to $6 and diesel $7.50. I truly believe those to be conservative estimates and think that could double with one or two major events. Hurricane that takes out one major refinery, Russia or N. Korea to launch a nuke, etc.....
50 gallon diesel tank on my truck filled when 3/4 empty is a $250 dollar bill. :bash: :bash:
:yeah:
It is a precarious market, and won't take much to push it up another notch.
I'll see your truck's tank and raise you another 1350 gallons of boat fuel tankage though :chuckle: Just filled 'er up for $4.76 and am glad I did it now. There is real talk of $6+ diesel up here by the end of the summer. The place I order my fuel from dollar-cost-averages the fuel in their tanks with every barge delivery, so we're just a little behind on the price increases right now, but will be paying higher than everybody else here soon.
Oil changes getting painful, too - a 55 gallon barrel of oil is over $1k now as well. :yike:
I just took 25,000 gals the other day. We go through about 50 gallons a hour running to the ground, just ran 24hrs. When fishing though we are down to 650-700 a day.
Post by: Special T on June 08, 2022, 01:07:53 PM
I will just be hunting close to home this year, hopefully stick a deer right away for the freezer and call it good, maybe try calling in a cat.
Post by: Skillet on June 08, 2022, 01:08:13 PM
The prediction is crude oil will hit $140 / barrel by August. That's another 20% which will bring the average cost per gallon to of gas to $6 and diesel $7.50. I truly believe those to be conservative estimates and think that could double with one or two major events. Hurricane that takes out one major refinery, Russia or N. Korea to launch a nuke, etc.....
50 gallon diesel tank on my truck filled when 3/4 empty is a $250 dollar bill. :bash: :bash:
:yeah:
It is a precarious market, and won't take much to push it up another notch.
I'll see your truck's tank and raise you another 1350 gallons of boat fuel tankage though :chuckle: Just filled 'er up for $4.76 and am glad I did it now. There is real talk of $6+ diesel up here by the end of the summer. The place I order my fuel from dollar-cost-averages the fuel in their tanks with every barge delivery, so we're just a little behind on the price increases right now, but will be paying higher than everybody else here soon.
Oil changes getting painful, too - a 55 gallon barrel of oil is over $1k now as well. :yike:
I just took 25,000 gals the other day. We go through about 50 gallons a hour running to the ground, just ran 24hrs. When fishing though we are down to 650-700 a day.
Skillet: "Check out these crazy fuel bills, man!!"
Scvette: "Hold my beer"
:chuckle:
Post by: Special T on June 08, 2022, 01:10:13 PM
The prediction is crude oil will hit $140 / barrel by August. That's another 20% which will bring the average cost per gallon to of gas to $6 and diesel $7.50. I truly believe those to be conservative estimates and think that could double with one or two major events. Hurricane that takes out one major refinery, Russia or N. Korea to launch a nuke, etc.....
50 gallon diesel tank on my truck filled when 3/4 empty is a $250 dollar bill. :bash: :bash:
:yeah:
It is a precarious market, and won't take much to push it up another notch.
I'll see your truck's tank and raise you another 1350 gallons of boat fuel tankage though :chuckle: Just filled 'er up for $4.76 and am glad I did it now. There is real talk of $6+ diesel up here by the end of the summer. The place I order my fuel from dollar-cost-averages the fuel in their tanks with every barge delivery, so we're just a little behind on the price increases right now, but will be paying higher than everybody else here soon.
Oil changes getting painful, too - a 55 gallon barrel of oil is over $1k now as well. :yike:
I just took 25,000 gals the other day. We go through about 50 gallons a hour running to the ground, just ran 24hrs. When fishing though we are down to 650-700 a day.
Skillet: "Check out these crazy fuel bills, man!!"
Scvette: "Hold my beer"
:chuckle:
I was gonna comment on my brothers logging operation but got slapped down by the 600 gallons a day!
Post by: lokidog on June 08, 2022, 01:13:02 PM
Post by: SuperX on June 08, 2022, 01:18:29 PM
Not looking forward to the 1800+ mile drive to WI at the end of June pulling a trailer and getting less than 10 mpg.... :bash: :bash:You might be have to sell the trailer in WI to pay for your trip home!
Post by: lokidog on June 08, 2022, 01:37:45 PM
Not looking forward to the 1800+ mile drive to WI at the end of June pulling a trailer and getting less than 10 mpg.... :bash: :bash:You might be have to sell the trailer in WI to pay for your trip home!
The trailer will definitely be staying there....
Post by: NRA4LIFE on June 08, 2022, 01:45:05 PM
Post by: lokidog on June 08, 2022, 01:49:40 PM
I drove there and back in Sep/Oct. At least the gas gets a bit cheaper as you go east.
Not so much this Spring. Two trips already, maybe 20-40 cents less across the country.
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Post by: idaho guy on June 08, 2022, 03:57:01 PM
Buy the oil stocks, they are choosing to take the profit instead of increasing production so at least you can get some of your money back in dividends.
Notice how neither party is saying much to them about it..
or Joe could go talk with U.S. energy companies and convince them they are willing to work with them to increase oil production domestically instead of flying overseas and begging Saudi Arabia to pump more oil or Venezuala or etc. The administration has not had one conversation with US oil company execs but he's talked to every foreign dictator on the globe. Its difficult to convince people to invest in "dirty" energy infrastructure and development when your last action was to stop a pipeline that is half way built. Who wants to invest billions in 1/2 of a pipeline that goes nowhere? The administration declared war on the fossil fuel industry from day one. They need to reach out in the interest of national security and create a plan for domestic production. One where oil companies can have faith that new development wont be randomly halted with the stroke of a pen or an executive order. I did buy oil companies
Post by: WSU on June 08, 2022, 03:57:33 PM
Buy the oil stocks, they are choosing to take the profit instead of increasing production so at least you can get some of your money back in dividends.
Notice how neither party is saying much to them about it..
You may very well pay for your increased fuel bills and then some, let alone get some back.
Post by: vandeman17 on June 08, 2022, 04:38:45 PM
Buy the oil stocks, they are choosing to take the profit instead of increasing production so at least you can get some of your money back in dividends.
Notice how neither party is saying much to them about it..
or Joe could go talk with U.S. energy companies and convince them they are willing to work with them to increase oil production domestically instead of flying overseas and begging Saudi Arabia to pump more oil or Venezuala or etc. The administration has not had one conversation with US oil company execs but he's talked to every foreign dictator on the globe. Its difficult to convince people to invest in "dirty" energy infrastructure and development when your last action was to stop a pipeline that is half way built. Who wants to invest billions in 1/2 of a pipeline that goes nowhere? The administration declared war on the fossil fuel industry from day one. They need to reach out in the interest of national security and create a plan for domestic production. One where oil companies can have faith that new development wont be randomly halted with the stroke of a pen or an executive order. I did buy oil companies
I agree. Oil is traded on the open market by speculators who don't even have to take physical possesion of what they buy. I would wager a bet that Biden could schedule a meeting with all the oil execs, make sure all media catches wind of it and then take them out to dinner while having ZERO conversations about oil. The next day, oil would trade lower by $5 or more.
The point I am getting at is that oil is traded on what the traders feel like will happen with both supply and demand down the road. If the administration would even HINT that they might pull their heads out of the sand and discuss more domestic production, oil prices would decline and gas prices would follow
Post by: woodswalker on June 08, 2022, 04:40:30 PM
Buy the oil stocks, they are choosing to take the profit instead of increasing production so at least you can get some of your money back in dividends.
Notice how neither party is saying much to them about it..
or Joe could go talk with U.S. energy companies and convince them they are willing to work with them to increase oil production domestically instead of flying overseas and begging Saudi Arabia to pump more oil or Venezuala or etc. The administration has not had one conversation with US oil company execs but he's talked to every foreign dictator on the globe. Its difficult to convince people to invest in "dirty" energy infrastructure and development when your last action was to stop a pipeline that is half way built. Who wants to invest billions in 1/2 of a pipeline that goes nowhere? The administration declared war on the fossil fuel industry from day one. They need to reach out in the interest of national security and create a plan for domestic production. One where oil companies can have faith that new development wont be randomly halted with the stroke of a pen or an executive order. I did buy oil companies
Look also into the business of petroleum products pipelines and pumping. I am doing VERY well there with things being pumped all over the place.
Post by: idaho guy on June 08, 2022, 08:29:10 PM
Buy the oil stocks, they are choosing to take the profit instead of increasing production so at least you can get some of your money back in dividends.
Notice how neither party is saying much to them about it..
or Joe could go talk with U.S. energy companies and convince them they are willing to work with them to increase oil production domestically instead of flying overseas and begging Saudi Arabia to pump more oil or Venezuala or etc. The administration has not had one conversation with US oil company execs but he's talked to every foreign dictator on the globe. Its difficult to convince people to invest in "dirty" energy infrastructure and development when your last action was to stop a pipeline that is half way built. Who wants to invest billions in 1/2 of a pipeline that goes nowhere? The administration declared war on the fossil fuel industry from day one. They need to reach out in the interest of national security and create a plan for domestic production. One where oil companies can have faith that new development wont be randomly halted with the stroke of a pen or an executive order. I did buy oil companies
I agree. Oil is traded on the open market by speculators who don't even have to take physical possesion of what they buy. I would wager a bet that Biden could schedule a meeting with all the oil execs, make sure all media catches wind of it and then take them out to dinner while having ZERO conversations about oil. The next day, oil would trade lower by $5 or more.
The point I am getting at is that oil is traded on what the traders feel like will happen with both supply and demand down the road. If the administration would even HINT that they might pull their heads out of the sand and discuss more domestic production, oil prices would decline and gas prices would follow
That is spot on. Market is always trying to price in 6 months from now. Any positive news from the administration on a friendlier approach to domestic production would have immediate effect of lowering prices. You’re right, Just the thought of more supply in 6-12 months would create an immediate price reduction. It’s actually an easy solution for current administration but I’m not really hopefull.
Post by: Stein on June 08, 2022, 09:00:06 PM
Of course the government could do something, or at least pretend, but they don't because that's how our system works unfortunately. Biden and Mitch aren't too worried at the gas pump because neither of them have actually pumped their own gas or probably even remember how to.
Same result, different administration, artificial market with little to no competition with profit protected by the various governments around the globe.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 09, 2022, 05:42:48 AM
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Post by: Alan K on June 09, 2022, 09:04:02 AM
No way I'd be investing in the future/expansion if I were an oil company given what the current administration has said about ending the industry. Make all the money they can while they still can. If this administration comes around, or is hopefully replaced, and their positions on oil change then it could be considered again.
There isn't really a limit for me price wise. I've always set money aside for hunting season throughout the year, I just upped the amount I'm setting aside now. Trimmed the unnecessary things in life, hardly ever eat out anymore. No more frivolous/impulse purchases. I'll have the fuel money put away to stick with my original plans even if it gets to something crazy like $10/gallon. Worst case I'd put it on a card if my set aside ran dry. It's all about priorities, and hunting season is darn near #1 for me.
Post by: Stein on June 09, 2022, 09:26:49 AM
I think companies aren't increasing production for a variety of reasons. The small producers can't get financing as banks learned their lessons. For the big guys, many/most/all of their C level is paid on short term returns and there is no real push for them to plan for more production in the future when they can absolutely crush it in the short term and leave that for someone else to figure out. Nobody is pushing them to drill so they don't.
They also learned a big lesson on how it can go from $100 to $20 or even negative and the longer it stays above $100 the more likely they will be to increase production.
Post by: vandeman17 on June 09, 2022, 09:28:50 AM
Biden is actually pushing for more drilling, you have to separate him from the party platform. He is very worried about elections and willing to change course rapidly where the platform is more steady (similar to virtually all presidents). He knows $6 gas will crush them at the polls, so the platform quickly takes back seat to polling. Many on the left are livid at what they see as him abandoning the climate platform for short term economic reasons.
I think companies aren't increasing production for a variety of reasons. The small producers can't get financing as banks learned their lessons. For the big guys, many/most/all of their C level is paid on short term returns and there is no real push for them to plan for more production in the future when they can absolutely crush it in the short term and leave that for someone else to figure out. Nobody is pushing them to drill so they don't.
They also learned a big lesson on how it can go from $100 to $20 or even negative and the longer it stays above $100 the more likely they will be to increase production.
Can you cite a time Biden has said anything pro drilling and domestic production in the last 12 months?
Post by: Stein on June 09, 2022, 09:42:03 AM
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For U.S. oil companies that are recording their largest profits in years, they have a choice. One, they can put those profits to productive use by producing more oil, restarting idle wells, or producing on the sites they already are leasing — giving the American people a break by passing some of the savings on to their customers and lowering the price at the pump.
They have everything they need. Nothing is standing in their way. And they’ve indicated they will be producing an extra 1 million barrels of oil per day, probably starting as early as this fall. That’s progress.
But some companies have been pretty blunt. They don’t want to increase supply because Putin’s price hike means higher profits.
One CEO even acknowledged that they don’t care if the price of a barrel of oil goes to $200 a barrel. They’re not going to step up the production.
I say: Enough. Enough of lavishing excessive profits on investors and payouts and buybacks when the American people are watching, the world is watching.
U.S. oil companies made nearly $80 billion in profit last year. And this year, those profits are expected to continue to soar.
This is a time — not the time to sit on record profits.
It’s time to step up for the good of your country, the good of the world; to invest in immediate production that we need to respond to Vladimir Putin; to provide some relief for your customers, not investors and executives.
Right now, the oil and gas industry is sitting on nearly 9,000 unused but approved permits for production on federal lands. There are more than a [12] million unused acres they have a right to — to pump on.
Congress should make companies pay fees on wells on federal leases they haven’t used in years and acres of public land they’re hoarding without production.
Companies that are already producing from these wells won’t be affected. But those sitting on unused leases and idle wells will either have to start producing or pay the price for their inaction.
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on June 09, 2022, 09:58:20 AM
What are people going to complain about next, we elected these idiot officials that shut down our own production and kill our GDP. Everything in this world cost money, if you really want to hunt, you cut back on other things and hunt, if you don't, then don't pay for the extra fuel. Having some arbitrary cutoff seems ridiculous.
Post by: mcrawfordaf on June 09, 2022, 10:04:26 AM
My cutoff is whatever the pumps asks for, I won't pay one penny over asking price!
What are people going to complain about next, we elected these idiot officials that shut down our own production and kill our GDP. Everything in this world cost money, if you really want to hunt, you cut back on other things and hunt, if you don't, then don't pay for the extra fuel. Having some arbitrary cutoff seems ridiculous.
I think it's not so much an "arbitrary cutoff" as much as "what's the top you can afford". I for one am on a budget and there most definitely is a number the pumps might hit where even getting to work is going to start being an issue.
Post by: Griiz on June 09, 2022, 10:07:56 AM
Post by: mcrawfordaf on June 09, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.
My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.
Post by: Griiz on June 09, 2022, 11:29:03 AM
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.
My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.
Yes, I understand that. I used to be there financially when my wife was staying home with the kids. I was always working two jobs and falling behind. This inflation would be really hard for us back then as it is for many now. Luckily I am in a better place financially. I feel for everyone that is hurting and hope it doesn't get much worse. The party that pretends to support the middle class and poor is the one that makes us suffer. Hopefully you get lucky early this hunting season.
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on June 09, 2022, 11:56:10 AM
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.
My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.
Yes, I get that, I wasn't trying to be an ass, and I truly feel for the people having to make these difficult decisions, just thought it was an odd question to ask people when they can't afford gas to hunt.
Post by: mcrawfordaf on June 09, 2022, 12:49:44 PM
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.
My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.
Yes, I get that, I wasn't trying to be an ass, and I truly feel for the people having to make these difficult decisions, just thought it was an odd question to ask people when they can't afford gas to hunt.
I understand, it is an odd question to ask. A better one could be "what are you doing to offset high fuel costs to ensure you still have a hunt?" or something like that.
It's just frustrating hearing some guys go off about how they already waste money other places so gas won't be an issue and that people are "pouting" about gas. I don't waste any money and I'm not pouting - the middle class (the actual middle class) is getting crushed. I envy ya'll who have the means to do everything you normally would this year but for my family we'll already have to cut out a lot of planned camps, a trip to the coast and thanksgiving with my brother in Colorado if these fuel prices stick around.
Post by: huntnfmly on June 09, 2022, 01:05:42 PM
Hang in there man👍I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.
My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.
Post by: Griiz on June 09, 2022, 01:41:36 PM
[/quoteI'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.
Hang in there man👍
My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.
I haven't been hauling my motorcycle and trail riding or using my boat much. Fuel is impacting my life. I have been making other life choices to spend less money. My hunting is my non-negotiable activity. It is my happy place and I will make it happen and don't mind working extra to accomplish that. Sorry if my earlier comments rubbed you the wrong way.
Post by: WAcoueshunter on June 09, 2022, 01:48:36 PM
I recall the last time gas prices went through the roof, strikes me it was 2008 or 2009? And suddenly the price of gas powered trucks went way down, and people were scrambling to find diesels or other vehicles with better mileage.
The used car market has been nuts over the last year or two...anybody seeing any softening in the low mileage vehicle market?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 09, 2022, 02:14:29 PM
If gas prices were truly a limiting factor for my family and our ability to get away, I'd be thinking really seriously about what vehicle I drive and whether I can swap some things around to get my cost per mile down.winter of 2007 if my memory serves me correctly. I hooked up my trailer and hauled butt for a week of late muzzy whitetails in colfax. Was running behind so just went straight to my hunting spot trailer and all. Doe bleeted (is that a word? :chuckle:) in 2 different bucks and shot the bigger of the 2. Had it in the truck an hour later, $5.02 for diesel in Colfax and I was home by 3pm the same day :chuckle:
I recall the last time gas prices went through the roof, strikes me it was 2008 or 2009? And suddenly the price of gas powered trucks went way down, and people were scrambling to find diesels or other vehicles with better mileage.
The used car market has been nuts over the last year or two...anybody seeing any softening in the low mileage vehicle market?
Post by: huntnfmly on June 09, 2022, 02:28:36 PM
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.
My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.
Hang in there👍
Post by: jrebel on June 09, 2022, 02:42:55 PM
Post by: hunter399 on June 09, 2022, 02:47:23 PM
Still going hunting.
Just go to the spring bear comments online.
And read a few anti-hunters comment,that will get ya fired up to go hunting ,whatever the cost.
I'll work OT ,whatever after reading there anti-hunters BS ,it pisses me off just enough that I don't give two about the cost.Ill work myself into a grave just to say I'm going hunting.
Screw those anti-hunters.
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on June 09, 2022, 03:31:17 PM
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.
My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.
Yes, I get that, I wasn't trying to be an ass, and I truly feel for the people having to make these difficult decisions, just thought it was an odd question to ask people when they can't afford gas to hunt.
I understand, it is an odd question to ask. A better one could be "what are you doing to offset high fuel costs to ensure you still have a hunt?" or something like that.
It's just frustrating hearing some guys go off about how they already waste money other places so gas won't be an issue and that people are "pouting" about gas. I don't waste any money and I'm not pouting - the middle class (the actual middle class) is getting crushed. I envy ya'll who have the means to do everything you normally would this year but for my family we'll already have to cut out a lot of planned camps, a trip to the coast and thanksgiving with my brother in Colorado if these fuel prices stick around.
Sorry man, that sucks, I feel for you, glad I am not in that situation, blessed it isn't an issue for me, but I do feel bad for those having to make those decisions, a real bummer!
Post by: idaho guy on June 09, 2022, 03:44:42 PM
March 31 speech, surprisingly blunt and no surprise the environmentalists are livid:QuoteFor U.S. oil companies that are recording their largest profits in years, they have a choice. One, they can put those profits to productive use by producing more oil, restarting idle wells, or producing on the sites they already are leasing — giving the American people a break by passing some of the savings on to their customers and lowering the price at the pump.
They have everything they need. Nothing is standing in their way. And they’ve indicated they will be producing an extra 1 million barrels of oil per day, probably starting as early as this fall. That’s progress.
But some companies have been pretty blunt. They don’t want to increase supply because Putin’s price hike means higher profits.
One CEO even acknowledged that they don’t care if the price of a barrel of oil goes to $200 a barrel. They’re not going to step up the production.
I say: Enough. Enough of lavishing excessive profits on investors and payouts and buybacks when the American people are watching, the world is watching.
U.S. oil companies made nearly $80 billion in profit last year. And this year, those profits are expected to continue to soar.
This is a time — not the time to sit on record profits.
It’s time to step up for the good of your country, the good of the world; to invest in immediate production that we need to respond to Vladimir Putin; to provide some relief for your customers, not investors and executives.
Right now, the oil and gas industry is sitting on nearly 9,000 unused but approved permits for production on federal lands. There are more than a [12] million unused acres they have a right to — to pump on.
Congress should make companies pay fees on wells on federal leases they haven’t used in years and acres of public land they’re hoarding without production.
Companies that are already producing from these wells won’t be affected. But those sitting on unused leases and idle wells will either have to start producing or pay the price for their inaction.
Nice speech for optics but he has had ZERO discussion with us oil executives about working WITH them. This is more about redirecting blame from his administration to the oil companies. I have 9000 different hunting leases available for you Stein. Problem is there are few to almost no deer or elk. Are you going to snap these leases up? Cmon man get to hunting I have all these leases available 😂. Biden scared away most of the capital available for fossil fuel development when he killed the pipeline and halted any new leases on public land. If he gives a crap he needs to talk directly to industry executives and provide assurance that they will work with them for the long term. Good first step would be fast tracking the approval of new leases and development. Making a speech calling oil companies greedy for not drilling more is hardly the answer. I guess at least he pissed off a few enviros but he did nothing to encourage domestic production with the “blame greedy oil companies “ speech. It’s going to take decades to transition to renewables. Should we be like Germany and become completely dependent on a foreign dictator like Putin or just be the largest producer in the world? Bidens plan so far is beg foreign dictators for oil abroad and blame greedy oil companies (owned by the American people) at home for high oil prices. That doesn’t inspire confidence for oil companies to invest in new production.
Post by: mcrawfordaf on June 10, 2022, 09:04:21 AM
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.
My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.
Hang in there👍
Thanks boss I appreciate it. Thankfully I've got a couple pieces of public not too far away I can stick to this season - hopefully the animals will too.
Post by: crabcreekhunter on June 10, 2022, 09:38:31 AM
Post by: Stein on June 10, 2022, 10:45:17 AM
March 31 speech, surprisingly blunt and no surprise the environmentalists are livid:QuoteFor U.S. oil companies that are recording their largest profits in years, they have a choice. One, they can put those profits to productive use by producing more oil, restarting idle wells, or producing on the sites they already are leasing — giving the American people a break by passing some of the savings on to their customers and lowering the price at the pump.
They have everything they need. Nothing is standing in their way. And they’ve indicated they will be producing an extra 1 million barrels of oil per day, probably starting as early as this fall. That’s progress.
But some companies have been pretty blunt. They don’t want to increase supply because Putin’s price hike means higher profits.
One CEO even acknowledged that they don’t care if the price of a barrel of oil goes to $200 a barrel. They’re not going to step up the production.
I say: Enough. Enough of lavishing excessive profits on investors and payouts and buybacks when the American people are watching, the world is watching.
U.S. oil companies made nearly $80 billion in profit last year. And this year, those profits are expected to continue to soar.
This is a time — not the time to sit on record profits.
It’s time to step up for the good of your country, the good of the world; to invest in immediate production that we need to respond to Vladimir Putin; to provide some relief for your customers, not investors and executives.
Right now, the oil and gas industry is sitting on nearly 9,000 unused but approved permits for production on federal lands. There are more than a [12] million unused acres they have a right to — to pump on.
Congress should make companies pay fees on wells on federal leases they haven’t used in years and acres of public land they’re hoarding without production.
Companies that are already producing from these wells won’t be affected. But those sitting on unused leases and idle wells will either have to start producing or pay the price for their inaction.
Nice speech for optics but he has had ZERO discussion with us oil executives about working WITH them. This is more about redirecting blame from his administration to the oil companies. I have 9000 different hunting leases available for you Stein. Problem is there are few to almost no deer or elk. Are you going to snap these leases up? Cmon man get to hunting I have all these leases available 😂. Biden scared away most of the capital available for fossil fuel development when he killed the pipeline and halted any new leases on public land. If he gives a crap he needs to talk directly to industry executives and provide assurance that they will work with them for the long term. Good first step would be fast tracking the approval of new leases and development. Making a speech calling oil companies greedy for not drilling more is hardly the answer. I guess at least he pissed off a few enviros but he did nothing to encourage domestic production with the “blame greedy oil companies “ speech. It’s going to take decades to transition to renewables. Should we be like Germany and become completely dependent on a foreign dictator like Putin or just be the largest producer in the world? Bidens plan so far is beg foreign dictators for oil abroad and blame greedy oil companies (owned by the American people) at home for high oil prices. That doesn’t inspire confidence for oil companies to invest in new production.
It's pretty obvious, oil companies are buying up leases (Biden sold more than Trump in 3 out of his 4 years). If you are arguing they are buying junk leases I don't buy that. They are buying and intentionally not drilling. They have the lease, have permission to drill but aren't - zero regulation or hurdles in their way.
Buy the lease, put it on the shelf for a rainy day or if oil gets to $200 and meanwhile cash your $150M bonus check. Whatever you do, don't drill because that will drive the price and profits down.
He's trying to play both sides of the same coin, to the left he's saying he is limiting new leases. To the right, he's telling them to drill existing leases which there are tons and tons, most in history. It's a theory on paper that has 0% effectiveness other than managing to tick off just about everyone.
Talking about a pipeline that has never pushed an ounce of oil and never will or a dinky lease up in ANWR that nobody expected will every happen seems to be an old story not very relevant. Both of those have never been in production and oil was $20 when they were off the table. It's something shiny to drum up froth in the base that don't bother to dig a bit deeper.
He can brow beat oil CEOs all he wants, they simply leave his office and head on over with a wheelbarrow of cash to K street and make sure nothing changes.
Buy oil stocks.
Post by: idaho guy on June 10, 2022, 02:42:11 PM
March 31 speech, surprisingly blunt and no surprise the environmentalists are livid:QuoteFor U.S. oil companies that are recording their largest profits in years, they have a choice. One, they can put those profits to productive use by producing more oil, restarting idle wells, or producing on the sites they already are leasing — giving the American people a break by passing some of the savings on to their customers and lowering the price at the pump.
They have everything they need. Nothing is standing in their way. And they’ve indicated they will be producing an extra 1 million barrels of oil per day, probably starting as early as this fall. That’s progress.
But some companies have been pretty blunt. They don’t want to increase supply because Putin’s price hike means higher profits.
One CEO even acknowledged that they don’t care if the price of a barrel of oil goes to $200 a barrel. They’re not going to step up the production.
I say: Enough. Enough of lavishing excessive profits on investors and payouts and buybacks when the American people are watching, the world is watching.
U.S. oil companies made nearly $80 billion in profit last year. And this year, those profits are expected to continue to soar.
This is a time — not the time to sit on record profits.
It’s time to step up for the good of your country, the good of the world; to invest in immediate production that we need to respond to Vladimir Putin; to provide some relief for your customers, not investors and executives.
Right now, the oil and gas industry is sitting on nearly 9,000 unused but approved permits for production on federal lands. There are more than a [12] million unused acres they have a right to — to pump on.
Congress should make companies pay fees on wells on federal leases they haven’t used in years and acres of public land they’re hoarding without production.
Companies that are already producing from these wells won’t be affected. But those sitting on unused leases and idle wells will either have to start producing or pay the price for their inaction.
Nice speech for optics but he has had ZERO discussion with us oil executives about working WITH them. This is more about redirecting blame from his administration to the oil companies. I have 9000 different hunting leases available for you Stein. Problem is there are few to almost no deer or elk. Are you going to snap these leases up? Cmon man get to hunting I have all these leases available 😂. Biden scared away most of the capital available for fossil fuel development when he killed the pipeline and halted any new leases on public land. If he gives a crap he needs to talk directly to industry executives and provide assurance that they will work with them for the long term. Good first step would be fast tracking the approval of new leases and development. Making a speech calling oil companies greedy for not drilling more is hardly the answer. I guess at least he pissed off a few enviros but he did nothing to encourage domestic production with the “blame greedy oil companies “ speech. It’s going to take decades to transition to renewables. Should we be like Germany and become completely dependent on a foreign dictator like Putin or just be the largest producer in the world? Bidens plan so far is beg foreign dictators for oil abroad and blame greedy oil companies (owned by the American people) at home for high oil prices. That doesn’t inspire confidence for oil companies to invest in new production.
It's pretty obvious, oil companies are buying up leases (Biden sold more than Trump in 3 out of his 4 years). If you are arguing they are buying junk leases I don't buy that. They are buying and intentionally not drilling. They have the lease, have permission to drill but aren't - zero regulation or hurdles in their way.
Buy the lease, put it on the shelf for a rainy day or if oil gets to $200 and meanwhile cash your $150M bonus check. Whatever you do, don't drill because that will drive the price and profits down.
He's trying to play both sides of the same coin, to the left he's saying he is limiting new leases. To the right, he's telling them to drill existing leases which there are tons and tons, most in history. It's a theory on paper that has 0% effectiveness other than managing to tick off just about everyone.
Talking about a pipeline that has never pushed an ounce of oil and never will or a dinky lease up in ANWR that nobody expected will every happen seems to be an old story not very relevant. Both of those have never been in production and oil was $20 when they were off the table. It's something shiny to drum up froth in the base that don't bother to dig a bit deeper.
He can brow beat oil CEOs all he wants, they simply leave his office and head on over with a wheelbarrow of cash to K street and make sure nothing changes.
Buy oil stocks.
I bought oil stocks the day Biden got elected. I knew exactly what he would do but I wish I would have been wrong. I think you have bought into Bidens narrative but I don’t think you really read my points. Companies will apply for and buy dozens of permits at one time. That doesn’t mean they all produce oil. If there first well is a dry hole they are unlikely to drill much more just because they have the lease. That’s why I used the hunting lease analogy. They are still subject to environmental studies and lawsuits from neighbors etc. even if they own the lease. Hence my suggestion he temporarily allow them to fast track the process.
People love to parrot that the keystone pipeline wasn’t complete so delivered no oil. I think it could have been done by now since 18 months have passed. It would have delivered the dirtier oil our refinery’s require. That’s not the point. By shutting down the pipeline he scared the industry and private money from investing in dirty energy development. Imagine If you invested billions in 1/2 of a pipeline they shut down mid stream. Would you be excited to pump billions more into a project? That’s the problem!! Biden expects a speech blaming high oil prices on the oil companies will convince them to produce more? He could send the price down tomorrow if he seriously tried to convince the oil companies he wanted to work WITH them and reverse course on what he’s done to put them out of business. In the interest of national and world security how hard is it to reverse his executive order on the keystone pipeline?
Post by: Igor on June 10, 2022, 03:18:15 PM
Biden expects a speech blaming high oil prices on the oil companies will convince them to produce more? He could send the price down tomorrow if he seriously tried to convince the oil companies he wanted to work WITH them and reverse course on what he’s done to put them out of business.
Biden swore to put the oil companies out of business on the first day of his presidency. And now he's blaming them for trying to maximize their profits?
He can issue all of the leases he wants, and then whine that the oil companies are not using them. It ain't gonna work.
Way to go, Brandon.
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Post by: Ricochet on June 10, 2022, 05:14:56 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on June 13, 2022, 09:39:55 AM
Post by: Griiz on June 13, 2022, 09:45:22 AM
I don't think the fuel prices have limited an of our driving as we have trips and travel already planned out. Just noticing it on the back end on the amount of money going out and not into savings. I filled up my diesel truck last night and it was $6.28 a gallon. Folks will definately see a lot more cash going out for everything. I would look at other vehicle options, but good luck trying to find one and if you do the markup is mind boggling. Take a $10k - $25k over MSRP bath on a new one or keep plugging away with what I have. :dunno:
Yes, I can buy a lot of fuel for the price of a new vehicle that gets better mileage. Would take many years to make the new vehicle worth the price.
Post by: Stein on June 13, 2022, 09:52:47 AM
Ok, here's a question. I read somewhere that Keystone XL is no longer an option because it's been diverted to British Columbia so the oil can be sold to China. When biden shut it down, did he know plan "B" was to sell the oil to China? If so it's a nice payback for all the grift that Hunter accumulated from his chinese buddies.
Any oil that would have gone through it either didn't get pumped because it was too expensive or was already going somewhere else. They will sell it to the highest bidder whether that's China or Anacortes. It also likely changes frequently due to refining needs, production around the globe, transport costs, etc.
I would guess China is buying all they can from Russia, I think it's going for about $90 a barrel since much of the world won't touch it. That's a huge financial gain for them for sure. It's not just oil, but gas and whatever else Russia exports.
Post by: phildobaggins on June 13, 2022, 10:11:13 AM
I think diesel was $6.5x. :ACRY:
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Post by: Sandberm on September 27, 2023, 06:10:47 PM
Yes, my limit has been reached. You've done what you set out to JAY....Im driving less
Post by: MADMAX on September 27, 2023, 06:12:12 PM
Fuel was 99 cents
Bought my first car (442) fuel was 49 cents
Post by: wadu1 on September 27, 2023, 06:18:22 PM
Post by: metlhead on September 27, 2023, 09:22:13 PM
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Post by: hdshot on September 27, 2023, 10:03:57 PM
Costs me 38 cents per mile. Bit more towing the boat. I will hunt regardless. Money just gets pulled from someplace else
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About 26 bucks an hour at 70 mph!? Of course idk how far you drive but I have to do over 250 miles round trip to my closest blind and would like to but no ride share after my former hunt buddy got upset about this subject I brought up and will never forgive because he doesn’t even forgive himself. Fun facts are great, but real facts always have a different story often met with denial. Thinking is a lost art these days for most.
Post by: Pnwrider on September 27, 2023, 10:27:38 PM
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Post by: Stein on September 28, 2023, 07:05:07 AM
Post by: birddogdad on September 28, 2023, 07:06:50 AM
Just got back from Montana, so I guess I haven't hit my limit yet. For hunting, the cost isn't that much more but I feel for the guy that has a long commute he has to do every day.
just back from New England, fuel was 3.50/gal reg and under 4 for diesel there.. wonder when the people are going to wake TFU here....
Post by: Stein on September 28, 2023, 07:08:52 AM
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Post by: wadu1 on September 28, 2023, 08:19:33 AM
It's one of the reasons I won't be hunting this year.:yeah:
Post by: metlhead on September 28, 2023, 08:24:15 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on September 28, 2023, 08:39:45 AM
Just got back from Montana, so I guess I haven't hit my limit yet. For hunting, the cost isn't that much more but I feel for the guy that has a long commute he has to do every day.
just back from New England, fuel was 3.50/gal reg and under 4 for diesel there.. wonder when the people are going to wake TFU here....
I was in Tahiti a couple weeks ago and gas was equal to if not slightly cheaper than WA...
WTH...
Post by: hunter399 on September 28, 2023, 08:47:23 AM
But ya ,it will change what vehicle I take,and where I go.
It definitely means less road hunting,more point A to point B.
I'd probably hitch hike to go hunting if I had too.
It's ridiculous right now.
Post by: BD1 on September 28, 2023, 09:01:51 AM
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Post by: Whitpirate on September 28, 2023, 09:32:52 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 28, 2023, 10:52:42 AM
I just got back from NV. Drove 2k miles there and back. That's roughly $165 more than it would have cost me last year. I'm not losing sleep over that. UT in a month will be about the same, and MT after that will be about the same. So for my season that's an extra $500. I can dang near save that by pre making sandwiches and snacks on those drives and not stopping for road junk :chuckle:
Gotta budget for gas station burritos though.
Post by: Lincoln4 on September 28, 2023, 10:57:29 AM
Post by: Sandberm on September 28, 2023, 11:02:21 AM
Pretty sure I own the world record for most gas station pizza pockets ate.I just got back from NV. Drove 2k miles there and back. That's roughly $165 more than it would have cost me last year. I'm not losing sleep over that. UT in a month will be about the same, and MT after that will be about the same. So for my season that's an extra $500. I can dang near save that by pre making sandwiches and snacks on those drives and not stopping for road junk :chuckle:
Gotta budget for gas station burritos though.
Post by: Rugsnfeathers on September 28, 2023, 11:03:31 AM
Like everybody said on this thread, carpooling saves a bit of money. So, my hunting group of four rode in my Escape to our hunting grounds, set up 6 cameras, and camped in tents compared to pulling my travel trailer with my truck for scouting trips.
I don't plan on slowing down on hunting, just modifying things and logistics around it.
Post by: birddogdad on September 28, 2023, 11:05:11 AM
Post by: baldopepper on September 28, 2023, 11:52:00 AM
round trip. Add a little driving around while there and fuel cost gets around $300 real quick. Throw in license costs and other misc.costs and that hunting trip costs well $500. No big deal to some, but lots out there catch lots of wife pressure when she puts a pencil to it.At over 20% interest rate I wouldn't suggest putting it on your credit card
Post by: h2ofowlr on September 28, 2023, 10:28:21 PM
Why is your 6.7 getting 12.4 mpg? Towing? Mine gets 17.5 with a leveling kit on 35in tires.
I have the same setup. 35" w/ leveling kit. Get horrible gas mileage though. Towing I get around 9mpg.
Post by: Naches Sportsman on September 28, 2023, 10:35:58 PM
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Post by: pianoman9701 on September 29, 2023, 10:42:25 AM
I think there is a thread on electric vehicles around here somewhere? :peep:
Many of us don't have an extra $60K+ sitting around doing nothing to buy one. Coercing us with $0.50 cap and trade tax/gal isn't helping us save, either. The combination of the Biden failed energy policy and the Inslee carbon tax scheme is crushing the middle class here. Having everyone in electric vehicles in 10 years is not only an insane plan that's unattainable, but it's unsupportable with our power grid.
Post by: Jpmiller on September 29, 2023, 11:57:34 AM
My solution to high fuel prices was to get this. It’s cut down on the amount of times I’ve had to go 55 miles into town for gas and I’ve only had it since August! Can Cover a lot more ground now so it’s already a win in my book!
That's going to be tough to drive a moose out on though :chuckle:
Post by: Mallardmasher on September 29, 2023, 12:54:10 PM
Post by: b0bbyg on September 29, 2023, 01:43:46 PM
I think there is a thread on electric vehicles around here somewhere? :peep:
There is but it only makes sense for folks already in the market for a vehicle replacement.
We were in the market for a replacment last year and MPG was something we wanted so I could scout and visit the woods cheaper than the 13 MPG my big truck gets. But if I was not in the market anyways trying to justify saving 500 to 1000 bucks on gas by spending north of 25,000 takes a long time to make work. And they is probably cheap for an electric vehicle.
I feel for folks strapped for the extra, fuel like everything else is just continuing to squeeze budgets, which means choices and priorities need to be figured out. I hated to drive back and forth this year during season but decided for me time in woods was worth the money.
I just wish my wife did not take her annual daughter trip same week as elk season. Because I still have the bad MPG truck for hunting because she had the new one. :chuckle:
Post by: CarbonHunter on September 29, 2023, 02:56:36 PM
Four hour round of golf at a good course costs 100+ round of sporting clays with shells, 100 bucks. Every thing is expensive, two bags of groceries 100 bucks. Fuel will not deter my passion.
I just got back from Montana towing a trailer and it was 2 tanks each way and diesel in Montana is still north of $4.50/gallon. Spent $1k on fuel for the trip.
Beyond fuel the general cost maintenance of vehicles is crazy as well. My truck is going in next week for brakes and that’s over $2k as well these days.
Post by: TeacherMan on September 29, 2023, 06:21:55 PM
Post by: CP on September 29, 2023, 06:58:14 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on September 29, 2023, 07:04:55 PM
Gas? Who needs gas?
I want to see you pack it out 😂
Post by: CP on September 29, 2023, 07:07:52 PM
Gas? Who needs gas?
I want to see you pack it out 😂
It can be done.
Post by: highcountry_hunter on September 29, 2023, 07:27:07 PM
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Post by: fishngamereaper on September 29, 2023, 08:22:09 PM
Every gallon of fuel burned is a write off. Which means the more miles I put on scouting, grouse hunting and big game hunting is less $$ paid in taxes. Suck it IRS!
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And the quicker we warm this planet up and end this train wreck civilization... :yike: :chuckle:
Love me some killing the planet GM HD poor gas mileage planet killing trucks... :tup:
Now my boat....that's another story :yike: :'(
Post by: Taco280AI on September 29, 2023, 08:24:29 PM
Post by: highcountry_hunter on September 29, 2023, 08:46:55 PM
Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or serious…but if you think a GM HD burns some fuel you should see the fuel bill at the end of a month for my peterbilt lolEvery gallon of fuel burned is a write off. Which means the more miles I put on scouting, grouse hunting and big game hunting is less $$ paid in taxes. Suck it IRS!
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And the quicker we warm this planet up and end this train wreck civilization... :yike: :chuckle:
Love me some killing the planet GM HD poor gas mileage planet killing trucks... :tup:
Now my boat....that's another story :yike: :'(
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Post by: baldopepper on September 29, 2023, 09:13:13 PM
Every gallon of fuel burned is a write off. Which means the more miles I put on scouting, grouse hunting and big game hunting is less $$ paid in taxes. Suck it IRS!
Hmmm- not sure that's something I'd be talking to much about on a public forum. Thought I had a similar deal some years ago, ended up costing me..
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Post by: Stein on October 06, 2023, 10:16:01 AM
There are a few state reps working on something as well, but if the state voted to put it in I'm confident they will repeal or refund.
Post by: hdshot on October 07, 2023, 05:42:11 AM
There is finally a initiative getting signatures to repeal the cap & trade, I just signed it at Wallys.
There are a few state reps working on something as well, but if the state voted to put it in I'm confident they will repeal or refund.
I hope so! But getting caught up on some horrible news in Israel that could cause gas prices to skyrocket?!
Post by: vandeman17 on October 07, 2023, 06:35:25 AM
There is finally a initiative getting signatures to repeal the cap & trade, I just signed it at Wallys.
There are a few state reps working on something as well, but if the state voted to put it in I'm confident they will repeal or refund.
I hope so! But getting caught up on some horrible news in Israel that could cause gas prices to skyrocket?!
Absolutely it will. A mouse farts in an oil field and the speculators jump all over the possible supply disruption. Until oil can no longer be traded on the commodities market, anything like this will cause a disturbance. :twocents:
Post by: HooknoseHunter on October 07, 2023, 07:52:00 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on October 07, 2023, 07:58:04 PM
Post by: metlhead on October 07, 2023, 08:00:49 PM
Post by: hdshot on October 09, 2023, 08:01:24 AM
I don’t understand how this is even a question? Fuel is a consumable product and should not be included in your decision on whether or not to hunt. I doubt I’ll spend more than $2k on fuel for the entire hunting season (not just waterfowl).
Unfortunately there is no over inflated fuel price forgiveness for waterfowl hunters.
Post by: buckfvr on October 09, 2023, 10:18:41 AM
I don’t understand how this is even a question? Fuel is a consumable product and should not be included in your decision on whether or not to hunt. I doubt I’ll spend more than $2k on fuel for the entire hunting season (not just waterfowl).
Not all folks are in the same boat.
Post by: KP-Skagit on October 09, 2023, 10:32:14 AM
For me, hunting is about learning, even the most reliable hunting location changes year over year. Adapt and overcome. Learn to hunt your backyard.
Sure there is a nostalgia in hunting where you have for decades. If that is a long drive then do it once a year and focus the rest of your efforts closer to home. Or leave them be altogether, many of the areas that I grew up hunting have fell victim to land ownership changes, DFW dike blowing and I have left them behind.
Don't let fuel cost become another avenue for antis to fight the battle.
Post by: Stein on October 09, 2023, 02:38:15 PM
There is finally a initiative getting signatures to repeal the cap & trade, I just signed it at Wallys.
There are a few state reps working on something as well, but if the state voted to put it in I'm confident they will repeal or refund.
I hope so! But getting caught up on some horrible news in Israel that could cause gas prices to skyrocket?!
Wouldn't be surprised if our "GWOT Partners" announced a cut, seems like their favorite tactic as of late.
Post by: hunter399 on October 09, 2023, 03:41:00 PM
I guess if I run out ,I'm walking.
Going hunting either way though.
Post by: hdshot on October 10, 2023, 04:20:03 PM
Some folks are so strapped due to inflated cost of everything that fuel is no longer a priority. The $20 to drive around the hill behind the house might be the only thing holding up a mortgage or paying a power bill. I am fortunate that I have disposable income and other hobbies that can sit til after season. I really don't feel as secure as I did 5 years ago when our household made significantly less money.
Then there is the value aspect of entertainment which is not good for the average person with long drives for poor hunting. Also just seems like a good number are comparing big game seasons to waterfowl? If so, gas prices are not a huge problem since big game seasons are shorter with a one and done in most cases.
Post by: KP-Skagit on October 10, 2023, 04:52:53 PM
If you want an excuse you will always be able to find one.
Post by: hdshot on October 10, 2023, 07:19:23 PM
Find better or comparable hunting closer to home. Its a big state and there are birds all over.
If you want an excuse you will always be able to find one.
Sorry for sharing about the challenges of us average waterfowl hunters are facing such as these gas prices. Your right about big state but left out with high gas prices. Birds all over, wish is was just that easy, believe me!
Post by: Kola16 on October 10, 2023, 10:07:49 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on October 10, 2023, 10:34:38 PM
Post by: mboyle0828 on October 12, 2023, 07:46:54 PM
If anyone wants to hunt the opener in the South Sound area, shoot me a PM.
Mike
Post by: WAcoueshunter on October 12, 2023, 09:46:44 PM
Me, there are so many costs involved with hunting and fishing, an incremental $1.00/gallon is not high on the list.
Post by: metlhead on October 13, 2023, 08:57:32 AM
Post by: hunter399 on October 13, 2023, 11:45:56 AM
It would click,stop pumping and she was full.
Now it clicks,and you can milk another 5 to 10 dollars in it.
Back in the day ,you was lucky to milk another 50 cents.
And it was leaking all over the ground.
Crazy how times change.
Post by: hdshot on October 16, 2023, 05:30:18 PM
As dead as the waterfowl site has been up to the day before the opener, you'd think nobody was gonna hunt this year. A fella that I take occasionally was looking at November options and wants to just bring one boat to save$$. He's also dumping a ton of money on overpriced pants for rifle elk season. Found that funny
Yeah, a former hunting partner might think accessible public lands are now just hot garbage from a dumpster fire because he told me no guarantees he would hunt with me again, it sounds like he tags along with new friends that have exclusive permission to some awesome private land.