Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: wooltie on June 20, 2022, 06:01:36 AM
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I reload, so there's that. On the bench I use a heavy rear bag and a caldwell adjustable front rest.
In the field my shots are prone, shooting off my backpack and using a rear bag, whenever possible. Thinking about buying a good bipod, maybe an Atlas, and using that for load dev and field shooting.
Has anyone seen a significant improvement shooting from a bipod instead of a bag, in terms of consistency or group size? I'm a fan of consistency over smaller group size. 1 MOA is fine for me out to 3-400 yards, I just want the gun to do that for 15-20 rounds at a time.
Not a fan of adding another 11oz to my rifle though and lugging that around.
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While I use both, and have not seen much variance as far as accuracy, as long as the usual things are taken care of.
I will say a backpack/bag is easier and quicker to level out on uneven ground. Not to mention the extra weight of a bipod. Probably not a big deal at the start of the day, but toward the end of the day, it could be more important. The extra stuff hanging off can get hung up on stuff as well.
If you carry a backpack normally, your rest is with you anyway. In the field, that is what I use.
See if a bud has a bipod you can put on and try?
Best of luck!
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For development I use the Rock BR with rear bag or bipod and rear bag, noting little to no difference provided the barrel is kept from getting too warm. For hunting, I take a bipod but seldom take it out of the truck relying on my day pack since the most common shooting position while hunting is "compromised". I have a full set of Harris leg notch pods, past thought being use them hunting, but nope, cant spend extra time looking for a decent prone setting when a shot opportunity presents itself.
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The only instances I notice a big difference is with taller bipods, they are not as solid and more movement can occur which opens up groups somewhat.
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Best bet is practice with your pack. Then no worries during the hunt. Also speeds up your shot setup and how fast you can build your position
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Aight thanks.
Recent setup changes include raising my ring height and using a raised adjustable cheek rest. I realized I was straining my eye to look up to see through the scope. Raised the cheek rest and raised the scope height, now my eye looks more straight out from the eye socket instead of looking upwards.
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I check my zero at 300 yards from a Lead Sled. I finish up with a tall Bog-Pod tripod (with the widebody head) for a bit of practical hunting simulation. Results with the tripod are less accurate than the bench rest, but still pie plate accurate. If possible, I would get prone and rest the rifle on a backpack but have hunted where tall grass prevents this. Also have Harris bipod, but the same problem with tall grass.
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When I shoot at the range, I do it exactly the same as in the the field.
Harris bipod, backpack under the stock
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When at the range I use an adjustable rest with bag up front and my shoulder in the rear. While hunting I use Primos Pole Cat 25 to 62-Inch Tall Bi-pod (shooting sticks) as much as possible. I see no difference in shooting if I have a stable hold. I also practice offhand shooting a lot with my hunting rifles. And once sighted in, almost all of the time shooting my ARs offhand.
I do not like having bi-pods attached to my rifle.
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I forgot my rest one time, used my pillow that i had for camping,changed my impact 3inches,made me think of my pack in a hunting situation,how would change.
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Nearly all my rifles have a different impact from using bags at the range when compared to using a bipod at the range. Several of my rifles need the bipod to be "loaded" as well, while others don't seem to be as bad. I would absolutely use the bipod at the range if I were planning to pack the bipod on the rifle while out hunting. :twocents:
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I shoot best in the prone position off of a short bipod with a ultralight “squeeze bag”. I do all my load development and most of my practice this way. I do everything I can to take my hunting shots this way. I have a pic rail on my rifle which allows me to easily remove my bipod so I’m taking it on and off depending on what I’m doing. I keep the squeeze bag in my pocket. I no long keep a sling attached to my rifle I prefer to carry it in my pack in some situations or in a kifaru gun bearer in others. All that being said, I practice off of my pack and tripod as well.
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Just realized I never answered the question….the bag itself or the bipod itself will not change your POI but the way YOU shoot off of a bag vs the way YOU shoot off of a bipod could and probably will.
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Just realized I never answered the question….the bag itself or the bipod itself will not change your POI but the way YOU shoot off of a bag vs the way YOU shoot off of a bipod could and probably will.
:yeah:
And depending on where your rifle touches the bag or if you bipod is mounted to a non-floated barrel. Both can effect harmonics of the barrel, changing POI.
Same with a resting a non free floated hand guard on a rest can also influence the harmonics of the barrel.
Is it enough to worry about? Not really, unless you are shooting extreme ranges.
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For me its usually faster and more stable to shoot off my pack with lite carry bag for rear rest ( roll of TP in a ziplock can work too) . Gotta have front and rear support whatever you use so sometimes its pack rear and bipod front. Load development is front Rock rest and rear rabbit ear leather bag - rock solid hold.
