Post by: vandeman17 on July 05, 2022, 01:56:13 PM
Intended use would be summer trips and hunting camp
Number of people to sleep would be 2-4 given I would like to be able to have hunting buddies stay in it and not share a rack
It would be pulled with my 2013 f-150 ecoboost
Budget would be preferably under $20k but would go a little higher for the perfect set up
Also would like it to be as efficient as possible for power usage, water etc
Post by: MADMAX on July 05, 2022, 02:14:12 PM
Queen and bunks ,slide out
27k last summer
Pulling it with a tundra WD hitch and air bags
Plenty of room
Pulls easy stops fine
With a 1/2 ton I wouldn’t go over 24ft for a tow behind
Post by: jackelope on July 05, 2022, 02:16:02 PM
https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2022/travel-trailer/imagine-xls/floorplans/21bhe
The large rear bunks are the ticket for me and my larger than average family members. My kid would have to fold herself in half to sleep on a fold down table.
All LED lighting and TV(which probably wouldn't get used much). Efficient HVAC, insulation, etc.
Post by: vandeman17 on July 05, 2022, 02:20:19 PM
Not sure if you could find one of these in your price range, but my buddy has a bigger version and if I ever do buy one, I think i'll get one of these. Buddy's is awesome and it's 30' or so. It's a few years old and for sale for a little over $30k, so maybe the smaller ones are around your price range.
https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2022/travel-trailer/imagine-xls/floorplans/21bhe
The large rear bunks are the ticket for me and my larger than average family members. My kid would have to fold herself in half to sleep on a fold down table.
All LED lighting and TV(which probably wouldn't get used much). Efficient HVAC, insulation, etc.
I also like the bunk idea for the additional sleeping space. When its just my old man and I on a hunt, sharing the queen bed in our sleeping bags is no biggie but a buddy is a different story.
Post by: MADMAX on July 05, 2022, 02:21:44 PM
https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tro/d/tacoma-2018-rv-trailer-24ft-bunkhouse/7500375882.html
Very similar to the one bought
Even with the outside kitchen
Post by: vandeman17 on July 05, 2022, 02:24:39 PM
Here’s one
https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tro/d/tacoma-2018-rv-trailer-24ft-bunkhouse/7500375882.html
Pretty nice but not sure I want to go $27k. I could but not sure I want to :chuckle:
Post by: trophyhunt on July 05, 2022, 02:31:22 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on July 05, 2022, 03:39:22 PM
Love my rear bunks, lots of room for buddies hunting crap. My buddy just bought a new jayco, 25 foot…… 45,000.00. Insanedang that’s spendy. bought a 30’ eagle premier 5 years ago for 32k
Post by: Russ McDonald on July 05, 2022, 03:57:58 PM
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
Post by: vandeman17 on July 05, 2022, 04:00:58 PM
What tow package do you have? I would not want to pull much more than 10k lbs. Anything can tow anything but another member said something about stopping. Plus if you go longer and heavier the trailer will be driving you not you towing it. I have a ram 2500 and won't tow much more than 11k lbs. My trailer is 9600lbs fully loaded drives super nice. 26' but I gave up sleeping space for a good bathroom. Mine sleeps 6 if you 5' the queen master bedroom is the only place I sleep. Lots of ultralights out there but at 20k is going to be tough to find. 25k-30k is more like it. I have been looking some. New forget it 45k plus.
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
I think its rated to pull around 10k but I would like to keep it much lighter than that. I don't need a brand new trailer with all the bells and whistles. Just something comfortable and that I can get in and out of the hills with relative ease
Post by: Russ McDonald on July 05, 2022, 04:05:07 PM
Just showing my wife this one https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/747640942946004/What tow package do you have? I would not want to pull much more than 10k lbs. Anything can tow anything but another member said something about stopping. Plus if you go longer and heavier the trailer will be driving you not you towing it. I have a ram 2500 and won't tow much more than 11k lbs. My trailer is 9600lbs fully loaded drives super nice. 26' but I gave up sleeping space for a good bathroom. Mine sleeps 6 if you 5' the queen master bedroom is the only place I sleep. Lots of ultralights out there but at 20k is going to be tough to find. 25k-30k is more like it. I have been looking some. New forget it 45k plus.
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
I think its rated to pull around 10k but I would like to keep it much lighter than that. I don't need a brand new trailer with all the bells and whistles. Just something comfortable and that I can get in and out of the hills with relative ease
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
Post by: vandeman17 on July 05, 2022, 04:05:51 PM
Just showing my wife this one https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/747640942946004/What tow package do you have? I would not want to pull much more than 10k lbs. Anything can tow anything but another member said something about stopping. Plus if you go longer and heavier the trailer will be driving you not you towing it. I have a ram 2500 and won't tow much more than 11k lbs. My trailer is 9600lbs fully loaded drives super nice. 26' but I gave up sleeping space for a good bathroom. Mine sleeps 6 if you 5' the queen master bedroom is the only place I sleep. Lots of ultralights out there but at 20k is going to be tough to find. 25k-30k is more like it. I have been looking some. New forget it 45k plus.
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
I think its rated to pull around 10k but I would like to keep it much lighter than that. I don't need a brand new trailer with all the bells and whistles. Just something comfortable and that I can get in and out of the hills with relative ease
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
Your wife's lucky day since I don't have fb :chuckle:
Post by: Russ McDonald on July 05, 2022, 04:10:21 PM
We are dreaming. We hasn't what we like right nowJust showing my wife this one https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/747640942946004/What tow package do you have? I would not want to pull much more than 10k lbs. Anything can tow anything but another member said something about stopping. Plus if you go longer and heavier the trailer will be driving you not you towing it. I have a ram 2500 and won't tow much more than 11k lbs. My trailer is 9600lbs fully loaded drives super nice. 26' but I gave up sleeping space for a good bathroom. Mine sleeps 6 if you 5' the queen master bedroom is the only place I sleep. Lots of ultralights out there but at 20k is going to be tough to find. 25k-30k is more like it. I have been looking some. New forget it 45k plus.
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
I think its rated to pull around 10k but I would like to keep it much lighter than that. I don't need a brand new trailer with all the bells and whistles. Just something comfortable and that I can get in and out of the hills with relative ease
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
Your wife's lucky day since I don't have fb :chuckle:
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
Post by: NRA4LIFE on July 05, 2022, 06:28:48 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 05, 2022, 06:37:09 PM
Out and see what you like and don’t like plus it’ll get you out of town for a bit.
Post by: Sandberm on July 05, 2022, 06:39:44 PM
I am somewhat in the travel trailer market meaning that if a good deal pops up I would probably snag it. My question is what route would you guys go give the following parameters?No way i want to share a TT with 3 other dudes, no matter how big it is.
Intended use would be summer trips and hunting camp
Number of people to sleep would be 2-4 given I would like to be able to have hunting buddies stay in it and not share a rack
It would be pulled with my 2013 f-150 ecoboost
Budget would be preferably under $20k but would go a little higher for the perfect set up
Also would like it to be as efficient as possible for power usage, water etc
Van, i dont care if Ford wants to call it Massive Boost, i aint pulling more then a 24 footer with a half ton....and that makes me cringe
Post by: Jolten on July 05, 2022, 07:32:33 PM
Post by: CarbonHunter on July 05, 2022, 07:57:38 PM
Not sure if you could find one of these in your price range, but my buddy has a bigger version and if I ever do buy one, I think i'll get one of these. Buddy's is awesome and it's 30' or so. It's a few years old and for sale for a little over $30k, so maybe the smaller ones are around your price range.
https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2022/travel-trailer/imagine-xls/floorplans/21bhe
The large rear bunks are the ticket for me and my larger than average family members. My kid would have to fold herself in half to sleep on a fold down table.
All LED lighting and TV(which probably wouldn't get used much). Efficient HVAC, insulation, etc.
I bought a momentum earlier this year and we are having lots of issues. With the new pressurized water tanks they are notorious for losing water driving down the road, we lose half a tank on our first trip. Grand Design told us to fill the tank up when we get where we are going for a solution. The roof had gaps in the sealer, the glass broke out of a cabinet door, the automatic vent won’t open in the bathroom and to top that when they installed the door you could see daylight between the door and trim.
I’m spending a lot of time navigating the warranty process instead of enjoying camping. Very little quality in manufacturing these days despite the extraordinary high prices.
Post by: ctwiggs1 on July 05, 2022, 08:34:01 PM
My wife started a business so we just won’t have time to use it.
Send me a PM or even better an FB message and I’ll be happy to send pics.
Post by: ctwiggs1 on July 05, 2022, 08:42:06 PM
I am somewhat in the travel trailer market meaning that if a good deal pops up I would probably snag it. My question is what route would you guys go give the following parameters?No way i want to share a TT with 3 other dudes, no matter how big it is.
Intended use would be summer trips and hunting camp
Number of people to sleep would be 2-4 given I would like to be able to have hunting buddies stay in it and not share a rack
It would be pulled with my 2013 f-150 ecoboost
Budget would be preferably under $20k but would go a little higher for the perfect set up
Also would like it to be as efficient as possible for power usage, water etc
Van, i dont care if Ford wants to call it Massive Boost, i aint pulling more then a 24 footer with a half ton....and that makes me cringe
I agree about putting other guys in there but the half ton thing is way wrong.
I took my 26ft to Yellowstone two years ago with zero issues. I’m loaded up with a great tow vehicle, transmission cooler, good tires and brakes, etc but it can absolutely be done.
I’ll go a step further and tell you I towed the same trailer with my dads 2000 Cummins 3/4 ton and it towed way rougher. I did some research and found my tow capacity is actually 3000lbs greater than his.
Post by: jackelope on July 05, 2022, 08:59:56 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on July 05, 2022, 09:06:20 PM
but I’m not the guy behind the wheel.
Thank goodness.
Post by: millerwheeler on July 05, 2022, 09:08:46 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on July 05, 2022, 09:10:15 PM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on July 05, 2022, 09:11:01 PM
Post by: Sandberm on July 05, 2022, 09:13:49 PM
We were towing our 1995 20 foot Nash TT with a 95 F-250, didnt sway at all. Couldn't feel it at all except for the ford being gutless power wise.
I started towing that same nash with an 08 Chevy 1500 with a 5.3 engine and my wife could FEEL the sway. She gets a bit nervous when the back end pulls down a bit, it feels like the truck wants to pull a wee bit this way and that. Doesnt bother me, but the wife is a woman, and she gets nervous. The tranny wanted to get hot too till i installed a tranny cooler in addition to the factory one that came with it.
Hey,... maybe a ford half ton tows a heavier load less noticeably then a chevy :dunno:
Post by: rtspring on July 05, 2022, 09:33:36 PM
Need 19,500 for it.
Post by: Russ McDonald on July 05, 2022, 10:04:37 PM
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
Post by: jackelope on July 06, 2022, 06:50:47 PM
For context.A newer half ton truck tows better than a 15 year old half ton truck.
We were towing our 1995 20 foot Nash TT with a 95 F-250, didnt sway at all. Couldn't feel it at all except for the ford being gutless power wise.
I started towing that same nash with an 08 Chevy 1500 with a 5.3 engine and my wife could FEEL the sway. She gets a bit nervous when the back end pulls down a bit, it feels like the truck wants to pull a wee bit this way and that. Doesnt bother me, but the wife is a woman, and she gets nervous. The tranny wanted to get hot too till i installed a tranny cooler in addition to the factory one that came with it.
Hey,... maybe a ford half ton tows a heavier load less noticeably then a chevy :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on July 06, 2022, 06:52:22 PM
I am not sayong a 1/2 ton in any manufacture won't tow a trailer but there are soany different packages in one manufacture of 1/2 ton. Do you have the heavy tow package or just a regular tow package with those different packages come different break or suspension setups. I had a 2008 F150 with the 5.4 Triton engine highest tow package towing same trailer I talked about 6 years ago. Within tow limits of the truck. Pull just fine if you where on flat land. Big hils or mountains gutless. Went to a Ram 2500 with the 2013 5.7 Hemi about 6 months of having the trailer.. What a difference then a 2018 2500 woth a 6.4 hemi pulls like a champ. Crappy gas mileage but it is like it isn't even there. Pulled it up to the Dalles FS campground over the 4th. I can tell you that travel trailers have gone up in price just like everything else lately even used ones. I drive cautious with my trailers I amnot like everone else towing that goes 90 mph down the interstate. That is just asking for problems and by the way the law is when you are towing a trailer your legal highway speeds are that of a semi. Over the last 5 years I have towed my trailer to fires just about eveywhere. Taking down to Fort Rock in Oregon in a couple weeks. Jiat know your tow capacity of your vehicle and use the 80% rule. Tow 80% of your tow capacity. Also know your max weight of the trailer you are towing. Most max weights are with full tanks. I don't fill up any tanks full whe I am towing unless it is a short trip like over the 4th. I usually will fill up the fresh water when I am close to my destination.
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
A newer F150 tows better than a 15 year old F150. Especially when you’re comparing the old school 5.4 with the ecoboost.
An F150 is very different from any 3/4 ton or bigger truck these days too.
Post by: jackelope on July 06, 2022, 06:54:13 PM
but I’m not the guy behind the wheel.
Thank goodness.
I have enough trouble transporting my float tube to my favorite fly fishing lakes. Nevermind an actual trailer.
Post by: Timberstalker on July 06, 2022, 06:56:28 PM
Post by: Igor on July 06, 2022, 07:06:37 PM
A newer F150 tows better than a 15 year old F150. Especially when you’re comparing the old school 5.4 with the ecoboost.
An F150 is very different from any 3/4 ton or bigger truck these days too.
It's not how much you can tow that should be the question. It's whether or not you can stop. We go over the North Cascades Hiway 4-5 times every year. Twice we have seen camping trailers on their roof, and the tow vehicle on its side. Both were 1/2 ton trucks, towing a trailer that was probably within the maximum capacity for the vehicle as far as towing, but the brakes just were not up the task. A white-knuckle ride down the eastern side of the North Cascades Hiway ain't worth it !!!!!
Post by: jackelope on July 06, 2022, 07:32:30 PM
A newer F150 tows better than a 15 year old F150. Especially when you’re comparing the old school 5.4 with the ecoboost.
An F150 is very different from any 3/4 ton or bigger truck these days too.
It's not how much you can tow that should be the question. It's whether or not you can stop. We go over the North Cascades Hiway 4-5 times every year. Twice we have seen camping trailers on their roof, and the tow vehicle on its side. Both were 1/2 ton trucks, towing a trailer that was probably within the maximum capacity for the vehicle as far as towing, but the brakes just were not up the task. A white-knuckle ride down the eastern side of the North Cascades Hiway ain't worth it !!!!!
If the trailer is within the tow capacity of the truck, the truck is designed to stop the trailer also.
That won’t stop people who don’t know how to tow a trailer from towing trailers. It also won’t stop people from buying 10k pound trailers when they have a 10k point tow rating. It also won’t stop some clown from pushing the limits and running 45mph corners at 55mph with a load pushing the limits of their trucks.
Post by: jackelope on July 06, 2022, 07:34:29 PM
Post by: Igor on July 06, 2022, 07:40:14 PM
Also. This thread is not about tow ratings and idiots who push the limits. It’s about a guy looking for a trailer.
Really.
Here is the post I was responding to, in its entirety.
"A newer F150 tows better than a 15 year old F150. Especially when you’re comparing the old school 5.4 with the ecoboost.
An F150 is very different from any 3/4 ton or bigger truck these days too."
Post by: Stein on July 06, 2022, 07:51:06 PM
Post by: BD1 on July 06, 2022, 10:25:55 PM
I am somewhat in the travel trailer market meaning that if a good deal pops up I would probably snag it. My question is what route would you guys go give the following parameters?
Intended use would be summer trips and hunting camp
Number of people to sleep would be 2-4 given I would like to be able to have hunting buddies stay in it and not share a rack
It would be pulled with my 2013 f-150 ecoboost
Budget would be preferably under $20k but would go a little higher for the perfect set up
Also would like it to be as efficient as possible for power usage, water etc
Now back to the original question :rolleyes: :chuckle:
Post by: vandeman17 on July 07, 2022, 08:25:43 AM
Post by: Igor on July 07, 2022, 08:49:57 AM
I do appreciate the discussion of towing capacity as that is a factor in my search. I would much prefer a trailer on the lighter side to make those longer trips more economical but also don't want to buy a trailer so small that it makes it so I might as well just pitch a tent. Trying to find that happy medium between big enough trailer to be comfortable and small/light enough to be able to haul it all over with ease. Pretty much a unicorn
One suggestion I would offer is to consider a trailer that has two doors. Sounds like a small thing, but when you have 3-4 people in a medium (25') trailer, having two doors makes a big difference. The first two camping trailers we owned were 1-door models. Our current 25' trailer is a 2-door model, and it just makes things way more convenient.
Post by: blackpowderhunter on July 07, 2022, 09:33:59 AM
worth pickin his brain.
Post by: vandeman17 on July 07, 2022, 10:02:14 AM
get ahold of lorenzo, he just picked up a new trailer this past year and i know he goes to the RV/trailer show and did a whole bunch of research before this last purchase.
worth pickin his brain.
Roger that. Need to catch up with him anyway. Its been a while
Post by: Russ McDonald on July 07, 2022, 01:33:53 PM
I do appreciate the discussion of towing capacity as that is a factor in my search. I would much prefer a trailer on the lighter side to make those longer trips more economical but also don't want to buy a trailer so small that it makes it so I might as well just pitch a tent. Trying to find that happy medium between big enough trailer to be comfortable and small/light enough to be able to haul it all over with ease. Pretty much a unicornThere are lots of ultra lites out there that would fit your bill for sure. Prices are high right now for sure. Quality has also gone to crap on alot of newer models over the last couple years from what I am hearing.
Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk
Post by: BD1 on July 07, 2022, 03:02:35 PM
You will find something that works for you ,
BD1
Post by: vandeman17 on July 07, 2022, 03:10:58 PM
We bought a Forest River 25' Cruise Lite three months before Covid hit. Same basic trailer is now selling for about 20K more than what we paid for it. Insanity!!! None the less it weighs in at 4600# dry and unloaded. No slide outs but larger than normal bunks in the back. We have really enjoyed it so far. Good luck :tup: I pull it with a 2014 RAM 1500 Hemi, no problem. I also got the leveling package and sway bar set up which makes a huge difference as well as a Prodigy P2 electric break module. All help with the peace of mind factor...and no I don't blow down the highway doing 75...I hang in the right lane and do 60 most of the time. I prefer back roads but that isn't always possible.
You will find something that works for you ,
BD1
Thank you. Prices don't seem too crazy to me right now but they for sure are higher than a few years ago.
Post by: CamoDup on July 07, 2022, 04:08:06 PM
My buddy is selling his Jayco. $16k
Post by: follow maggie on July 09, 2022, 07:28:34 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on July 21, 2022, 09:25:43 AM
Post by: Alchase on July 21, 2022, 09:28:30 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on July 21, 2022, 09:42:23 AM
Post by: Sandberm on July 21, 2022, 10:03:39 AM
I share your feelings of not wanting to mess up a new expensive travel trailer on rough roads, hitting low hanging branches etc. If its got a few scratches and stains thats cool, as long as it is functional, comfortable and reliable.
Congrats.
Post by: 92xj on July 21, 2022, 11:09:32 AM
Those scratches and dinks tell the story of the adventure you were on, the more damage, the bigger the story.
Now, when you start destroying your truck...that hurts more.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52231817566_95fd9eaa59_b.jpg)
Post by: vandeman17 on July 21, 2022, 11:35:41 AM
It hurts the first few times but gets easy over time, even with a newer trailer.
Those scratches and dinks tell the story of the adventure you were on, the more damage, the bigger the story.
Now, when you start destroying your truck...that hurts more.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52231817566_95fd9eaa59_b.jpg)
"That will buff out"
Post by: trophyhunt on July 21, 2022, 12:10:49 PM
It hurts the first few times but gets easy over time, even with a newer trailer.Oh my, I think we bought our trailers around the same time, NO WAY I could do that to mine, I'd puke. My truck is trashed from my moose hunt but my trailer gets washed every time I bring it home after camping. But hey, to each their own.
Those scratches and dinks tell the story of the adventure you were on, the more damage, the bigger the story.
Now, when you start destroying your truck...that hurts more.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52231817566_95fd9eaa59_b.jpg)
Post by: Sandberm on July 21, 2022, 12:23:35 PM
I saw a guy at scrap metal with a pristine pickup, lining his pickup bed with beach towels before he loaded metal in the back.
I'm not a fan of plastic bed liners, everything slides around too easy.
Post by: 92xj on July 21, 2022, 12:52:59 PM
It hurts the first few times but gets easy over time, even with a newer trailer.Oh my, I think we bought our trailers around the same time, NO WAY I could do that to mine, I'd puke. My truck is trashed from my moose hunt but my trailer gets washed every time I bring it home after camping. But hey, to each their own.
Those scratches and dinks tell the story of the adventure you were on, the more damage, the bigger the story.
Now, when you start destroying your truck...that hurts more.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52231817566_95fd9eaa59_b.jpg)
Yep, 2019 brand new.
We use it dang near every weekend between March and October. The amount of adventures and memories it is making with my 4 and 6 year old trump those scratches. We all hate people, especially camping close to others, so we are constantly as far off the path as possible.
Post by: trophyhunt on July 21, 2022, 01:35:29 PM