Post by: pickardjw on August 02, 2022, 06:06:00 PM
Swivel pro's: an extra bearing to help with line twist, trust my knots to swivels.
Swivel con's: slamming it into your tip top, can make it harder to swing fish close to the boat to net
Knot pro's and con's: basically the opposites of the above.
Bonus topic: how important are breakaway rigs to you? An absolute must or meh?
Post by: Mfowl on August 02, 2022, 06:37:00 PM
Post by: Kola16 on August 02, 2022, 06:45:37 PM
If I use a flasher on my line, I do not put a flasher on if it isn't a breakaway. My favorite breakaway flasher setup is the Simon 360 magnetic setup. I usually just run a dummy flasher on the ball though.
Post by: metlhead on August 02, 2022, 07:03:21 PM
Post by: CP on August 02, 2022, 07:09:39 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on August 02, 2022, 07:42:05 PM
Only rods that have top shot mono on braid are my live bait tuna sticks.
Straight swivel flasher's. Hate the action on beakwaways. Fished em side by side about 8 year's ago. Matching colors. Straight swivel out fished the breakaway. :twocents:
Post by: MtnMuley on August 02, 2022, 08:28:45 PM
All my salmon rods are loaded with 25lb Berkley Big game... never felt the need for braid as my primary. Never have any issues. :twocents:
Only rods that have top shot mono on braid are my live bait tuna sticks.
Straight swivel flasher's. Hate the action on beakwaways. Fished em side by side about 8 year's ago. Matching colors. Straight swivel out fished the breakaway. :twocents:
:yeah:
Only difference is I use Maxima and not Big Game. Line to braid knots are great, and I use the hell out of them in many other fisheries going from a Sun Line braid to FC Sniper flouro. A guy can't "set it" like you can with straight braid or mono. It's a controlled hook set or you'll snap that line to braid knot. I tie several, and even the best will snap with a sharp hook set. Running it behind a rigger might be the saving grace to snapping the knot, but I'm not willing to switch:twocents:
Post by: Mfowl on August 02, 2022, 08:45:11 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on August 02, 2022, 08:58:01 PM
I have some breakaways, but don't typically use them.
Post by: pickardjw on August 02, 2022, 09:15:20 PM
Sounds like y'all run a shorter set back for salmon. I'm used to at least 50' and up to 100' for Kokes. Ran 30'-50' for sockeye this weekend. Is it less important for salmon?
Post by: Crunchy on August 02, 2022, 10:17:50 PM
Post by: spoonman on August 03, 2022, 06:34:05 AM
Post by: steeleywhopper on August 03, 2022, 07:32:49 AM
So I'm running 50# braid on my salmon reels and use downriggers. When connecting your braid to your leader to the dodger, would you trust a swivel over a line-to-line knot? I'm thinking:
Swivel pro's: an extra bearing to help with line twist, trust my knots to swivels.
Swivel con's: slamming it into your tip top, can make it harder to swing fish close to the boat to net
Knot pro's and con's: basically the opposites of the above.
Bonus topic: how important are breakaway rigs to you? An absolute must or meh?
I have been using 65lb braid joined to a 40ft section of 30lb Maxima Ultragreen. I make the connection with the "John Collins Knot". In the 6 or 7 years I have been doing this I have had zero failure and the knot slides right through the guides without hanging up. My wife is the one that usually ends up with the sealion grabbing her salmon and we have yet to have a setup break off trying to chase and horse the gear back to us. The Mono goes in the downrigger clip so there is no slippage like you get with braid and I use a Sampo swivel for the mono to flasher connection. Never an issue with line twist.
Post by: dilleytech on August 03, 2022, 07:49:39 AM
Post by: pickardjw on August 03, 2022, 09:18:37 AM
Post by: Blacklab on August 04, 2022, 11:50:44 AM
You could also try your braid in this style release, supposed to work well but I have not used them.
They work great at Merwin for Kokes :twocents: Little spendy no regrets :tup:
Post by: Stein on August 04, 2022, 01:16:33 PM
I dislike the pro release posted earlier, I had two instances of them not releasing and lost fish and then they went in the garbage and I switched to top shot like most other people.
Post by: Kola16 on August 04, 2022, 04:51:08 PM
Couldn't get the hang of the FG but I'm pretty versed with the Albright (Alberto?) knot since I use that on my casting rods. I don't run mono main line for anything anymore, just like braid too much.The key to a good FG knot is that you must keep tension on all the lines. Thats how the knot holds, it's by the braid literally gripping the mono. The knot will not break, your line will break somewhere away from the knot. The knot is that strong. To tension the mono I put the mono spool on the ground and my foot on the mono spool. I then have one hand to tension the braid and the other to snake the mono back and forth. Watching a YouTube video is a must.
You do not need to put your line as far back from the ball as you do with kokanee. 30 ft. is fine. 50 ft. max. The further back you put your line, the less effective the hook set of the release clip is. Kings and coho have hard mouths so you want a good hook set. Sharp hools are also a must. I have had coho attack my downrigger ball, so they definitely are not shy :chuckle:
Post by: pickardjw on August 06, 2022, 07:52:29 PM
But then he stayed at the surface flopping around and we swung around to net him. Got the gear back and everything!
Marked them like crazy last night too and we’re all over em with the gear but zero bites. Had the same experience at Baker. All morning, no evening action.
Post by: kball4 on August 08, 2022, 09:48:02 AM
Post by: ASHQUACK on August 08, 2022, 12:18:30 PM
Post by: Crunchy on August 08, 2022, 12:41:01 PM
Bead chains and duo locks. I run a small plastic bead on my main line to keep from reeling the swivel into the eye on the rod tip.
also makes changing out flashers pretty darn quick.